spiro and avodart cause hair loss

[dean1972]

yes i know many of you will say that it does not but i am living proof that using both avodart an spiro will damage your hair ,meaning accelarating baldness thus scuppering my dream of becoming a real women,wigs are not a option for me because i would feel false,also when i started avodart i only had miminal recession at the temples now i have lost 30% of my hair also since starting spironolactone i have shed 200 hairs a day and it is getting worse day by day

[Kate]

yes i know many of you will say that it does not but i am living proof that using both avodart an spiro will damage your hair...

No, they don't. Your experience is not universal. These drugs are proven to prevent hair loss in *most* people. Odds are if you're still losing your hair, the cause is something other than a DHT-induced problem. OR, as some people claim, an initial shedding sometimes occurs before the new hair grows in.

But the vast majority of people report an improvement when using spiro, Avodart, or both.

~Kate~

[dean1972]

sorry keira ,you are wrong on this 1 ,i have just been on hairloss talk and most of the users are dissapointed with avodart and the people who have tried spiro say that it just creates more hair loss,

[SocalledLife]

THE SKY IS FALLING!

[Lori]

Wrong, there is no scientific proof your statement is even remotely correct. 1 of two things are happening. You are genetically screwed in the fact that if the men in your family are bald then you have that gene. Or secondly, all that weak sick hair is falling out and making room for the new stuff. It takes months and months and months.....way over six months probably a year or so to know if its really going to work. Give it time and don't make statements without proof that condradicts scientific fact that these products do not cause hair loss and in Advodarts case is designed to stop hair loss.

[Keira]

Escuse me Dean, but I've been on almost all those things since 1990, and there is no such things being said by EVERYONE. although I'm sure a some say that.

Avodart (Dutasteride) works like finesteride which has been proven countless times to WORK on DHT driven hair loss (which is what most men have).

If you have some other type of hair loss it won't work. Only a trip to the hair specialist can tell you that.

If it is a very very aggressive DHT driven loss (totally bald before 30 if you don't do anything for example), you may not get a full response (but you will get something).

Since spiro works on hair loss by simply blocking T's effect on the hair shaft and diminishing overall T production, how on earth could it promote hair loss!! T at the hair folicle is the main reason for hair loss, how could it promote it? What means of action this molecule could use to do that!

A medication cannot promote something outside the realm of its biological action.

Also, I don't care how many people say it on one particular board (which is kind of a self-selected survey with huge bias), that's not how you prove a medication has a certain effect or not. Anedoctes prove nothing.

If you take spiro or dutasteride or finesteride, without estrogen, the quicker cycle the hair will be in, will initially push many towards dormancy (shedding). Coupled with estrogen there would be less of that since estrogen increases the time when the hair is growing and not dormant.

[dean1972]

keira i respect your opinions very much and your knowledge is brilliant.
i said that spiro and avodart cause hair loss,so that you would tell me this is false,
i need the hope you see ,for some one to say no IT DEFINTLEY WILL NOT INCREASE HAIRLOSS ,i am i nervous wreck at the moment and just need reassuring that these treatments will help

[SusanK]

Curious, have you consulted your physician and/or specialist(s)? Your reaction seems opposite of what I've read and personally experienced. I was on Propecia for years to prevent hereditary (temple) hair loss, which worked including restoring some hair after the first year, before switching to Spirolactone, which is actually slowly reversing the hair loss where and have about 1/3 back from when I originally started on both drugs. As for shedding, it's normal to lose about 100 hairs per day, and I think I shed more but it's all growing back just as fast.

Just my experience. My guess is, as suggested, something else is happening over the effect of the Spirolactone and Advodart. And it's likely reversable if you get help and treatments. Baldness isn't usually immediately permanent. It take time (months to years) for hair loss to be permanent, depending on your genetics. Good luck.

--Susan--

[seldom]

yes i know many of you will say that it does not but i am living proof that using both avodart an spiro will damage your hair ,meaning accelarating baldness thus scuppering my dream of becoming a real women,wigs are not a option for me because i would feel false,also when i started avodart i only had miminal recession at the temples now i have lost 30% of my hair also since starting spironolactone i have shed 200 hairs a day and it is getting worse day by day

From my experience it has done the exact opposite.  Dutasteride/Spiro and Estrace have had a positive effect and my hair is growing back nearly five months in.  What you are saying is not universal Spiro and Dutastride do not cause hair loss, well in most people.  My hair is coming back, in small patches, for sure, but it is still growing back and it is much better than it was before HRT.  Yeah it still has a long way to go but this process can take well over a year to go through.  But I am a patient woman with regards to this and I don't mind wearing a wig.  How long have you been on this anyway?

As Keira said, it could be something which is not DHT related.   

[noeleena]

hi  .   just a point here how old are you .   are you on any other meds .i am 60  & for 3 years on spiro & premarin.   now i am not on spiro there was no change for me .  my hair loss was in our males side & i do not have hair on my head so what .  i have 2 nice hair wigs any way.    i am just acceapted as a female  or a women no matter how i look  if you are .  then thats what counts.  for me its who you are not what you wear    i know ill get some dirt on this .  never mind ......now .  i am post op this year .dont give up ......noeleena n z 

[Autumn]

Check your diet. I found that when I lapsed taking my multivitamin, and even when i replaced it with a different one (one a day versus a hair/skin/nails complex for women. i was taking it for the biotin (which is good for hair) and thought that the general mineral mix in it would be enough for good health when i tripled the dose when I ran out of multivitamin), i had much more hair loss than when i was on the proper multivitamin.

Also if you aren't eating enough (crash diet for weight loss perhaps), you're going to lose a lot of hair. I lost a lot of hair last fall from major stress/genetic thinning/anorexia, got on propecia in the spring, and was noticing a lot of regrowth until a couple of months ago when I was taking my propecia very spottily (bad relationship + lots of work = lots of forgetting to take pills) and the above vitamin thing happened. I'm back on both solidly and noticing a lot less hair loss.

The problem is, like stated above, weakened hair is a problem even when you're taking the stuff. I set myself back a good year probably by screwing up for the better part of a month. hair fell out, newly growing hair fell out, and existing hair was damaged / set to fall out in the future.