Quote from: Peep on May 21, 2016, 01:06:03 PMJust about the supplements/ vitamins, you can only get B12 from eggs, supplements or yeast extracts like marmite, so I take B vitamins, but aside from that I don't take anything.
Before I respond to this, I want to say that I am vegan as well, as much as possible (sometimes at temple, for lunch, I will ask which items don't have ghee or clarified butter in them, and most of the time I get it with veggie oil, but sometimes, ghee slips in there ). I have been vegetarian for nearly 23 years, vegan for 17 of these years (over 12 years this time).
My response:
This is the Natural Hygiene perspective on this problem, of getting enough vitamin B-12.
B-12 is a vitamin produced by bacterial symbiosis, bacteria living in the soil and on the plants. The reason that B-12 is supposedly derived from animal products is because livestock eat the plants on the ground or hay/feed in contact with the soil for a sufficient length of time to allow bacterial travel to it.
A problem with humans is that in the distribution chain, the produce is washed somewhere along the way (usually with chlorinated water), which kills off the bacteria and cleans off the B-12 that was deposited on the produce. If any survived, chances are it was cleaned off when it arrived at the grocery store (particularly greens in the wall units with water sprayers to keep them fresh via city water - more chlorine!).
A second problem is that with the derangement and destruction of the human digestive tract with inappropriate food, even if you ingest thousands of times the so-called RDA, you may only be absorbing a tiny fraction of it either because your damaged lining can't absorb it, or because your stomach is impaired in its ability to produce Intrinsic Factor via the parietal cells. Intrinsic Factor is needed in the gastric uptake of B-12 in the GI tract before crossing into your body tissues proper. So, you can be a "graveyard" (dead body eater) and still have this problem.