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Is 'transsexual' a correct term?

Started by WolfNightV4X1, July 31, 2016, 12:34:16 AM

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RobynD

What an interesting question and responses. I never really thought much about it other than going but the most recent and standard definitions that you see here and other places, most of which are pretty much in agreement. I consider myself Transgender and have never used or considered the term Transexual, likely because it seemed old fashioned to me.

Recently, i just use woman or girl more than anything and drop any modifier to that, but you can't get away from it some of the time. Also it helps to identify as part of the wonderful community that we are, so from that standpoint I sort of like the umbrella aspect of it all.

There are new terms appearing all the time and i like umbrella term gender variant also.



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Sharon Anne McC


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I am from the era of 'transsexual'.  I have always been female, I changed my apparent anatomic 'sex', not my female 'gender'.

On the other hand, I have come to know some who are younger and they are highly strident to use only 'transgender'.  They abhor 'transsexual'.

To each your own.

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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Xirafel

Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on July 31, 2016, 12:34:16 AM
Those objecting to the idea of transgender people will often bring up the fact that transmen and women are not men and woman but 'masculinized women' and 'feminized males'. This is backed by the clear biological and karyotypical fact that all men and women cannot change their genetic makeup, they are all XX or XY, and this cannot be undone.
Chromosomes don't determine sex. There are XY females, etc.
Anyone who claims they're men would probably be denounced or ignored by the general public.
If I had to choose, being an XY female would be much better.

They don't like trans because trans is trans. Changing later in life.
Even if we had some Martians come down to reconstruct us, I'm sure they would still complain.
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Tristan

I don't really know anything about all this wrote here and i have trouble understanding it
but i do not feel comfortable with the word transexual even if it means no harm i'll be in my grave before i'm called that i dislike the sounds of it i just do not like it. I'm trans/transgender and that's what i'll use.
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Xirafel

I had never even heard of the word "transgender" until fairly recently.
I mostly just heard about transsexuals, usually in the context of people having surgery.
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I Am Jess

I am a post-op transsexual woman. 

Two years ago I was a cis gender male with an undiagnosed medical condition.   I'm much better now.
Follow my life's adventures on Instagram - @jessieleeannmcgrath
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Miss Clara

I expect the meaning of the word 'transgender' will ultimately be defined by the media and popular usage, much like the word 'hacker' was hacked from it's original meaning of 'a gifted programmer' to 'cyber outlaw' by the media.   I rarely see media pieces that use the terminology that most of us in the transgender community use ourselves.  The GLAAD Media Reference Guide is routinely ignored by the media. 

It makes it harder to communicate when there is a free-for-all on the use of terminology.  When someone tells me they are 'transgender', I'm not sure what that really means.  The Williams Institute of UCLA reported that 1.4 million people self-identify as 'transgender'.  To me, that's an almost meaningless statistic.  Does that figure include male cross-dressers, ->-bleeped-<-s, and drag queens?  Does it include people who are cisgender but androgynous in appearance?  Who knows?  A more rigorous study by Harris at the U.S Census Bureau concluded that there are only about 90,000 transsexual men and women who have transitioned to include name and/or gender marker change. That a huge difference even if half the actually number.

When it's necessary for me to reveal my medical background (a rare circumstance these days), I say that I'm a 'trans woman'.   I'll say 'transsexual woman' if the extent of my physical transition is relevant.  If the listener seems confused, I'll fall back to 'transgender', and then try to correct some of the myths and misconception they've absorbed through the media and other sources if they're interested.

From my perspective, the focus on transgender vs cisgender status in society is overdone.  I may not be cisgender by definition, but having transitioned physically and socially to female, I've reduced my GD to an occasional short flareup. Where I am today, it's a distinction without a difference.

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Devlyn

Quote from: Clara Kay on October 04, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
I expect the meaning of the word 'transgender' will ultimately be defined by the media and popular usage, much like the word 'hacker' was hacked from it's original meaning of 'a gifted programmer' to 'cyber outlaw' by the media.   I rarely see media pieces that use the terminology that most of us in the transgender community use ourselves.  The GLAAD Media Reference Guide is routinely ignored by the media. 

It makes it harder to communicate when there is a free-for-all on the use of terminology.  When someone tells me they are 'transgender', I'm not sure what that really means.  The Williams Institute of UCLA reported that 1.4 million people self-identify as 'transgender'.  To me, that's an almost meaningless statistic.  Does that figure include male cross-dressers, ->-bleeped-<-s, and drag queens?  Does it include people who are cisgender but androgynous in appearance?  Who knows?  A more rigorous study by Harris at the U.S Census Bureau concluded that there are only about 90,000 transsexual men and women who have transitioned to include name and/or gender marker change. That a huge difference even if half the actually number.

When it's necessary for me to reveal my medical background (a rare circumstance these days), I say that I'm a 'trans woman'.   I'll say 'transsexual woman' if the extent of my physical transition is relevant.  If the listener seems confused, I'll fall back to 'transgender', and then try to correct some of the myths and misconception they've absorbed through the media and other sources if they're interested.

From my perspective, the focus on transgender vs cisgender status in society is overdone.  I may not be cisgender by definition, but having transitioned physically and socially to female, I've reduced my GD to an occasional short flareup. Where I am today, it's a distinction without a difference.

Here is the definition we use on the site:

Transgender: an inclusive umbrella term which covers anyone who transcends their birth gender for any reason. This includes but is not limited to Androgynes, Crossdressers, Drag kings, Drag queens, Intersexuals, Transsexuals, and ->-bleeped-<-s.

It sounds like the Williams study is only counting transsexuals, but using the term transgender, which encompasses many other groups.

Hugs, Devlyn
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sarah1972

For the moment I call it a "Hormonal Imbalance" which I seek treatment for... My way of sugarcoating and avoiding labels.

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jentay1367

Quote from: T.K.G.W. on July 31, 2016, 06:56:42 AM
In my understanding, the term transsexual refers to someone who specifically changes the status and appearance of their biological sex.

Transgender could describe crossing boundaries of prescribed roles, expectations, etc. without necessarily altering biological characteristics, and includes people who do not transition. The word gender is a broader descriptor than the term sex (biological sex) and refers more to how we classify ourselves mentally and out in the world. Transsexual is a more specific term, and I use it instead of transgender to describe myself, because I am more concerned with the appearance of the body and the biological sex than other things. I don't think of myself as a female changing to a male, or crossing roles and genders, I think of myself as a male changing female-like body characteristics to male ones. A guy with gynaecomastia doesn't usually think of himself as a transgender person if he gets the problem fixed. Neither do I.



Awesomeness!!!!       that might be the best description I've ever encountered. 
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Xirafel

Quote from: sarah1972 on October 04, 2016, 04:20:25 PM
For the moment I call it a "Hormonal Imbalance" which I seek treatment for... My way of sugarcoating and avoiding labels.
"Are you transgender?" "No, I had a hormone imbalance when I was young (in the womb) which led to me looking like this and the medical system wasn't too bothered about treating it"

That's not technically a lie.
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Tanya62

I'm in a pretty weird place I guess. Being between transitions is not advised. Technically, I am a transexual. But I don't like that term, because, as already mentioned, it puts so much emphasis on the 'SEX' part.

If anyone was to ask me, I would not have a problem referring to myself as 'Transgen'. That's ok with me, and pretty much says it all.

Once everything settles down, if it ever does, I will definitely prefer to be referred to as Tanya. That's who I am.

Tanya   :icon_lips:
Ok, not as depressed, but still working on it.
GRS, sometime in 1991
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