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Started by 2cherry, November 11, 2016, 12:11:44 PM

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Drexy/Drex

Quote from: 2cherry on December 09, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
Thanks!

Yes, I queried my surgeon about this. But he does operate on cancer patients a lot. People with cancer on the forehead, and he basically accesses the same area.

He's a maxillofacial surgeon, so he has 15+ years of study and training before he was ever allowed to operate on a face. These people are the highest skilled surgeons, because of their long training. They are also dentists and plastic surgeons. They can reconstruct complete faces from injury, illness and in my case feminize a face.

He also told me that he just follows well established procedures. Step by step. There is no guess work.

He has access to all this material, and we don't.  Here is a good example of a step by step procedure But be very careful in viewing this page. It shows step by step how to operate on the forehead and is extremely graphic, with fullscreen intraop photo's.

Personally, I like to look at these photo's so that I can process what has happened. But sometimes it's too much. Can't imagine seeing this in real life. But seeing this, makes me appreciate how difficult it is. And how much I respect my surgeon.  :)

Your surgeon is indeed a genius , i have enormous  respect for surgeons to me they are god like
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2cherry

Okay, I was a bit ranting yesterday. Sorry, I was a bit bored and nothing to do then just sit on Susan's an read/comment.  :D

Well, here it is....

I managed to do a before and after photo:

https://unsee.cc/zebugoni/

My nose is still swollen, and my face looks still a bit tight so I cannot smile much.  ;D

After seeing this I appreciate the power of FFS. I also can't imagine that I looked like that before... granted, the before photo was taken while I was just shy of 3 months on hormones and not much changed from yet. But the profile looks remarkable, if I may say myself.  ^-^

Definitely worth it. I am over the moon when I see these pictures.  :icon_giggle:

What do you think?


1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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Drexy/Drex

I think its marvelous  .... what a difference  !!! 
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R R H

Wow. Wow. Wow. Basically it's simple: on the left you do have a male profile. On the right you have a completely female one. That's my first take impression and so I hope you don't mind me sharing it. You look fantastic now honey: you are a woman. That's the power of great FFS to alter the outward appearance of our inner reality.

I just re-looked and no-one would doubt for a moment that you're a woman.

xx
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2cherry

Aw, thanks everyone...  :) it's definitely worth all the pain and annoyance to finally see myself.

I said to my surgeon: "It's like you pulled off a mask! that's me!"



1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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2cherry

I've been taking some extra vitamins. Especially B, which helps with nerve damage. Nerves (re) grow at a rate of about 1mm a day, and B vitamins helps. Extra B1 + B9 + B12 especially. But be very careful with vitamin B6, too much B6 will damage nerves, mostly in the legs. Many commercial supplements have too much B6.



1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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R R H

Oh that's interesting. I've been taking berocca but recently switched to half a tablet of it a day out of concerns for vitamin overdose.
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Sophia Sage

Excellent!

The forehead work is so, so important to opening up our eyes... and it's through the eyes that we try to look into each others' souls. 
What you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it.
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2cherry

Wait until I post the frontal shots....  ;D still have to heal for that, but one day I will post them.

I think my surgeon has made me 10 years younger. It's amazing.



1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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2cherry

Okay,

Here are some pictures I took last summer. A few months before FFS. They are not photoshopped, because, well, I don't have photoshop. Only paint.  ;D

https://unsee.cc/biredamo/

They stay online for 24 hours.

Can't wait for the summer of 2017! it's going to  be great.  ^-^

Most of the pictures are taken on my apartments balcony. I live in the Netherlands, the last picture is typical of the landscape: flat! just like my forehead right now.  :laugh:


1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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R R H

I take that back about the masculine profile before FFS  :D You look so lovely. Can't wait to see all the after ones.

You're gorgeous!

xx
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2cherry

I've read the captain's log, regarding procedures done on my nose and the tools used. This was a bit of a mystery as I did not know exactly what was done.

1. open incision
2. footplate resection, cephale edge.
3. lowering nose
4. hump reduction
5. spreader grafts
6. various osteotomies.

- Kefzol
- Tampons
- Denver splints
- 5x prolene sutures.



1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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2cherry

Not much has changed over the last week.

I did notice that there was this liquidly feeling behind my forehead, and the brow was a bit swollen in the corner for a day, it looked like the orbital bone was back but it was fluid. Now it has subsided some. Swelling comes and goes on the forehead, it's unpredictable.

The forehead doesn't bother me no more. Feeling has returned to the sinus area.  Feeling radiates back to about half an inch from the hairline. Numbness is only apparent when I touch the top of my head and forehead. But day to day, I don't pay attention to it unless I rub my head. So that's a big relief. When I watch TV, I don't notice anything.

My nose has become less runny, and it's pretty much healed to the point where I can touch it without discomfort.

Feeling in my chin has return 99% a very tiny spot is still tingly. That was a huge relief, because I know it's healing well.

So what remains is:

- some tightness in mouth, because of sutures. still some limited movement. Can smile for 70%.
- numbness on top of head, the size of a fist.
- forehead mushiness/tingling.
- incision on nose is a bit numb
- a minor numb spot above my right top lip

That's about it. Nothing major.

One thing that is still here: tiredness. I am tired very quickly. Not so much physically, but mentally. Anything that involves deep thinking and organizing is very taxing. It is normal after major surgery. Around 6 weeks it should be better, but only after one year are wounds completely healed.

Last few weeks I altered my diet a bit. I started to eat more fatty salmon almost every two days, and added multi vitamin to my diet. I also used extra calcium tablets and vitamin D.


1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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2cherry

Been a bit down today.

I've been taking stock of my life since a few days. The last 8 years, the only thing I have been doing was transitioning... now that I have had my FFS, I can put another year to it. Healing, that is what I have been doing. But those 8 years are gone. I can't go back and live them... 8 years of struggle, ridicule, exclusion, and silent treatments. 8 years, just to become myself. And now that I am finally start to feel something again, I don't know where I am or where I am going.

Transitioning comes at a cost: I lost time, work, friends and family.

Pretty much every reason for waking up each day, being alive, staying alive and not go insane. I lost it.

I am torn to pieces by loneliness, silent treatments and being the black sheep. The outsider, the 3rd person, somewhere in between. Not exactly male, not exactly female. Synthetic to some and horrendous to others. Excluded from everything, cast out, in exile.

Faith is one of the main reasons I am still sane. And even that is being ridiculed...

Last night I dreamt of a friend. I miss her so much... so so much. But I was stabbed in the back by those I loved. And for what... for absolutely nothing. Being dumped and trampled. Then I read advise like: oh, forget the past. I can't. It's how I feel, and how can that be wrong... how can it be wrong to feel down and be sentimental? It's a human emotion. I am a human being.

Another Christmas alone... really want to know why I deserve this. I would take my responsibility for anything. But all I get is the silent treatment, expecting me to be clairvoyant or whatever... What did I do? I only wanted to love and give love. But love is too direct... people are afraid. Healing hurts. Love hurts. Maybe I am socially inept. Awkward, afraid, afraid of myself. Yes... maybe. But everyone feels like this in a while. And they manage to do fine. Maybe I am crazy... wouldn't surprise me. The gaslighting and second guessing continues...

I know a brighter day will come... but I am still lost in the twilight.



1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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R R H

Oh honey :(

Do you live in the same place as you were before transitioning? I know some people benefit from a clean break, but that's also very tough in a way. I lost a couple of friends, one of them close, through the process and it continues to hurt. Yours sounds on another level again. Christmas is a particularly horrible time in that regard. Don't forget too that there are lots of people who hurt around this time, for all sorts of reasons including bereavement.

I hope you can find more people in your life who are supportive and lovely to you.

I've had a tough time for different reasons https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,216392.msg1925238.html#msg1925238

I guess going through this just ain't easy. Your level of emotional hurt makes it tougher. Please take a big virtual hug hon. If it helps to be told it: you're soooooooo lovely.
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2cherry

Thank you Rachel!  :)

I've moved couple of times...

But no matter where I find a home, there are always troubled currents beneath me that keep stirring...


1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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Sophia Sage

I was so down in the dumps for a good couple months after facial surgery, maybe three.  It is definitely a part of recovery.  It gets better. 

As to going forward with a clean break, and sorry to be blunt, but I don't think it's all that effective unless you consistently pass in the first place.  Facial work helps with that, yes, but it also depends on voice.  And, for better or worse, getting out into the world without a trans narrative -- at least in the Western world, which also means letting go of those people who aren't completely 100% onboard your interior reality.  I mean, assuming you want to assimilate, assuming you want consistent unadulterated female gendering.  Which it sounds like you do, based on your reaction to being othered as "synthetic" or "horrendous." 

So I wouldn't go by your experience with your previous moves, because before your facial surgery you probably weren't where you needed to be physically to get gendered properly. 

And then, at least in my experience, it took several years to actually assimilate.  In some areas of my life it was quick, in other areas not so much, just subtle things about social expectations and whatnot, which of course vary from place to place as so much of it is specifically cultural.  For me, a fresh start included a new career.  New friends, new lovers, new coworkers, and living nowhere near where I'd ever lived before (I think 300 miles or 500 km is a decent rule of thumb) so "the story" wouldn't have the legs to follow me.  Of course, that was nearly two decades ago, and the fractionization of the United States is more severe, I think, than that of Europe. 

No, we can't forget the past.  But letting go of it is not the same as forgetting it.  Rather, we can escape its gravitational pull: weiter, weiter, immer weiter.

Or are the "troubled currents" you speak of something far different?
What you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it.
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2cherry

Thanks Sophia,

You are right, I am still in the embryonic stage of healing... just a month plus a few days. It's major surgery, something I forget often... maybe because it's so normal these days to have FFS, we don't consider it a big deal anymore. But it is... it's really big.

I still have some issues with self acceptance and some inferiority complex, which was hammered into me all my life. It's hard to let go of those thoughts if I only heard negative things said about me. I work on it, but it takes time.

I got the voice down. I practiced two years with a vocal coach, on a weekly basis. It's feminine. It did help that I am a singer and a musician. That helped a lot.

Would love to live in the US, I always wanted to live in the US since I was very young. Maybe one day.


1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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Debra

I've definitely been down and frustrated myself of late. The fact that my face just doesn't look right yet has been difficult going  back to work .

My first day back at work was pretty depressing...it's gotten a lot better in the last week but still have a ways to go.

hugs

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2cherry

Thanks Debra! we're also close with our surgeries, you are a week ahead of me.  :)

There is a flu epidemic where I live. This is bad. Especially for me, because I just had surgery. I feel a bit low today, and nauseous... I think I have a mild flu, I hope it doesn't flare out. I am very careful, wearing gloves at all times (pin machines, atm, doorknobs, etc) and wash my hands for a minute. I try to avoid touching my face as well. I am more susceptible right now.

As for healing, I still feel the shooting pains on my head. Sometimes they hurt. As if a strand of hair is pulled from my head. I also had some shooting feelings inside my nose yesterday. I hope that is a good thing. They say it is.

Still exhausted with ease... I don't even feel like typing this. I just can't be bothered...



1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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