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Do they have strip clubs that are strictly transgender dancers?

Started by Angélique LaCava, November 22, 2016, 02:53:29 PM

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NadiaGulNihal

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on November 22, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
I'm thinking of doing that because I can't exactly keep a respectful job because people start treating me different after they find out I'm trans. The only thing I feel like I'm good at is gettung male attention so I'm considering stripping. I'm looking for a strip club that is only transgender dancers so if anyone is from the New Orleans area or have visited the area and know of any please let me know.

in europe some peoples working in clubs but mostly they are completed grs and working as escort too. I was born in Turkey and never see that kind of places like that for muslim country reason but ı worked in netherlands as exotic dancer.
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SadieBlake

Angelique, if you pass, you pass. However you will still in this  have to deal with staying stealth. It's a fair bet that your co-workers will be as transphobic as any other job.

My gf worked as a dancer for nearly two years after her boom of dotcom work petered out in the '00 recession. She liked the work and her co-workers and often relates to me that she still has enjoyed that time more than any of her straight jobs.

Quote from: Michelle_P on November 22, 2016, 06:44:08 PM
The topic makes me a little nervous, actually. Strip club work is a little too close to the stereotypical transgender sex worker for comfort.

Honestly, I have more respect for the big box hardware store employee who can help me find the right widget when I'm desperately wandering the aisles than someone bumping and grinding the pole for dollar bills. :P

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Couldn't disagree more. As for stereotypical work it would be more accurate to stereotype it as female than transgender. More women than you may realize put themselves through university on dancing and sex work is the one area of the economy where women outperform men in wages.

You're welcome to be nervous about it, however I find stigmatizing sex workers inappropriate. We're all just doing what we need to to get by and sex workers are due respect also.
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AutumnLeaves

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on November 23, 2016, 12:32:50 PM
i would become a Cis gendered dancer, but I don't think they hire transgenders at cis gendered strip clubs. I asked my friend who is a dancer and she said that none in New Orleans hire transgenders unless they work as a waitress or go work at a specific spot for LGBT.

Maybe if you market yourself as "a transgender" (which I think might be phrased better) you could have a problem, but if you pass and don't talk about it you can be just another woman applying for the job. I don't think I've ever seen a club marketing itself as "cis gendered" and I am quite sure there are many, many trans women working in this field who simply do not make an issue of it or bring up their history. I've had friends who were dancers, and none of them ever reported that they were asked if they were "cis gender" when applying.
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ErinS

Quote from: SadieBlake on December 08, 2016, 08:14:22 AM
Angelique, if you pass, you pass. However you will still in this  have to deal with staying stealth. It's a fair bet that your co-workers will be as transphobic as any other job.

My gf worked as a dancer for nearly two years after her boom of dotcom work petered out in the '00 recession. She liked the work and her co-workers and often relates to me that she still has enjoyed that time more than any of her straight jobs.

Couldn't disagree more. As for stereotypical work it would be more accurate to stereotype it as female than transgender. More women than you may realize put themselves through university on dancing and sex work is the one area of the economy where women outperform men in wages.

You're welcome to be nervous about it, however I find stigmatizing sex workers inappropriate. We're all just doing what we need to to get by and sex workers are due respect also.

Sex work isn't for everyone, but I've met some phenomenonal women in the industry with incredible business sense. It's the type of thing where the way you approach it, and how seriously you treat it, makes all the difference in the world. I know savvy women that built veritable business empires from it, and others that were too busy buying LV to actually build anything sustainable.
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Mariah

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Okay folks lets be understanding of the fact that industry isn't limited to just trans or even woman for that matter. So lets be respectful of that and not marginalize it to just one group that does that type of work. Lets also keep in mind TOS 5, 9, 10, and 15. Thanks
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Randi

The Jewel Box Lounge in Kansas City, flourished for 34 years featuring male "femme mimics".  They all went by their male names. I'm sure it wasn't the only such establishment. 
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Quote from: Mariah on December 08, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
Okay folks lets be understanding of the fact that industry isn't limited to just trans or even woman for that matter.
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SadieBlake

Sorry to quote myself but this morning was a lovely  synchronicity

I read this in my morning feed from medium.com written about 9 hours after my post here.

https://bull->-bleeped-<-.ist/all-strippers-have-relationship-problems-e212348a8f11#.rojm1qph3
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However, what I can tell you now is that we are all people. I have met dancers who dance to support their art projects, to support their schooling.
Every single one of us in this world is merely doing our best to make a life for ourself on this planet, yourself included.

Quote from: SadieBlake on December 08, 2016, 08:14:22 AM
More women than you may realize put themselves through university on dancing and sex work is the one area of the economy where women outperform men in wages.

... We're all just doing what we need to to get by and sex workers are due respect also.
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Wild Flower

How about the whole "feminine man" market, although it's a smaller market in the gay scene, there is a market (not sure where, but I can see it happening at any gay club). I mean, you're passable and all, but it only takes an outfit change, a hairchange, a few conversations and you can enter the gay scene all over again (unless your body is undeniably female, then that's different)

I notice there is a strong population on Second Life, but I guess bisexual men are more open to it, then admitting to it in real life.
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herekitten

Yes, there are clubs which feature the type you inquired about. There was one here in Atlanta, but I believe it is defunct now (but I could be wrong). It was called Black Diamonds at the Ultra Lounge in Midtown (Tg Strippers both pre and post, and exclusively Tg wait staff).  Have you given any thought to Bartending instead? It's what I did for a bit while I went to college.  I would recommend if you do that, to stick with a more well known place. I worked at a very high end resort and got to meet people from all over the world.  One word of advice here - be yourself, enjoy it, make some money BUT do not speak of what is twixt your legs to anyone (unless you feel safe doing so and you are in a relationship of sorts with them - you get the picture). I've known many girls who have made a very good living doing just this sort of thing but only while youth was on their side.  One of them was a very famous individual who went on to become Miss Nude World and nobody knew of her past because she was wise with whom she divulged. 
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ana1111

Yes here in south Florida there's one called club xtra not even joking
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kittenpower

Quote from: Annabolton on December 14, 2016, 10:54:06 PM
Yes here in south Florida there's one called club xtra not even joking
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Breenyan

i think that the people treating you different after finding out should suck it up and deal. you're not any different at work than you usually are, so if they have a problem, it's their own problem, and usually they get over it after a long enough time interacting with you. see if you can't just keep doing your jobs as is.

sex work hasn't got a very strong advancement curve, especially in this hyper-niche market of trans models/dancers or whatever you wanna be.  the problem is that it's gonna really annoy you. i say this not as speculation but experience because i dealt with the junky attitudes and personas of hecklers and demanders and overall jerks. and all we can really do is smile and try to brush them off with some sort of witty remark. but in seriousness, for some cis girls, it's enjoyable or pleasant. much of that goes out the window when being trans is involved, because society just doesn't hold us to be as "human" as cis people. so they are like, infinitely more likely to treat you poorly.  cis girls, that's empowering for some of them, but for trans girls, it's much more rare to feel empowered by sex work and much more common to just be exhausted and frustrated. trans sex work's pinnacles barely reach the mid level opportunity and standard of living of the pinnacles of cis sex work. that's just something that we can't control since society thinks of cis and trans people that way.
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