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Don't know what to do anymore.. Feeling suicidal

Started by needhelp, November 30, 2016, 10:10:17 AM

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needhelp

Hey there, thought I'd stop by and share how I've been feeling. So I'm still having a hard time trying to figure out what I am... Straight, gay, trans? I'm very confused... it does feel like I am trans however...
Anyway, having a girlfriend is killing me as well, because I feel like I'm about to make her like a misery. In addition, I've come to realize that I only truly laugh around men and not with women (when my girlfriend makes a joke or something funny happens to her I force my laugh...), this also confuses me because it leads me to think that on top of being trans, I might be gay... But again, also not sure if this is a misconception up in my head... Do MTF find other women boring for random reasons before they transition? Or only happens with MTF who later in life realize they like men (which makes them straight)
I know a lot of women that say women suck and are boring and men are fun... so maybe I'm deep down attracted to males, but as a woman? (I haven't started hormones or anything yet)..
Not sure if other MTF who then realized they liked men had the same issue, like they just could not laugh at what their SO did... Maybe I don't realize it and I don't really like women sexually? So once I get into a relationship with them I can't find anything funny or enjoyable due to the underlying anxiety? I'm starting to think maybe this is anxiety signaling that I'm the wrong gender right now, and that as well... I am dating the wrong sex as well.
I feel like offing myself a lot recently... I just don't know anymore :(...
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Alora

Quote from: needhelp on November 30, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
I feel like offing myself a lot recently... I just don't know anymore :(...

I really want to encourage you to call a transgender hot line or go to the hospital. I'm pretty sure your identity will be kept confidential.

As for the sexual attraction, I am in the same boat. In my present state, I'm not sexually aroused my men. However, as I am discovering the woman that I have been hiding, she wants to experience what it's like to be with a man. However, I'm pretty sure she is bi/bi-curious towards men.

It truly sounds like you need to see a professional. I really encourage you seek out help.

Loves [emoji182]❤️[emoji182]


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needhelp

Quote from: Alora on November 30, 2016, 10:30:38 AM
I really want to encourage you to call a transgender hot line or go to the hospital. I'm pretty sure your identity will be kept confidential.

As for the sexual attraction, I am in the same boat. In my present state, I'm not sexually aroused my men. However, as I am discovering the woman that I have been hiding, she wants to experience what it's like to be with a man. However, I'm pretty sure she is bi/bi-curious towards men.

It truly sounds like you need to see a professional. I really encourage you seek out help.

Loves [emoji182]❤️[emoji182]


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It just hurts real bad not to sincerely laugh when my girlfriend does something. I fake all my laughs, but then I see male friends and I laugh all over the place. Or is this some internalized machismo thing?... I'm thinking of breaking up with her and spare her from all the possible hell :(...
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Alora

Quote from: needhelp on November 30, 2016, 10:46:09 AM
It just hurts real bad not to sincerely laugh when my girlfriend does something. I fake all my laughs, but then I see male friends and I laugh all over the place. Or is this some internalized machismo thing?... I'm thinking of breaking up with her and spare her from all the possible hell :(...
Have you tried talking with her? Does she know your trans? Things might be a lot different with her if you don't have to fake it any longer.


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needhelp

Quote from: Alora on November 30, 2016, 10:52:58 AM
Have you tried talking with her? Does she know your trans? Things might be a lot different with her if you don't have to fake it any longer.


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She's very closed minded... Talking about something like that would just mean hell of a fight and just breaking up. Plus I'm still confused about me being trans as well. Like I'm not 100% convinced yet? So talking about something like this to her would mean... I don't know... many other problems like family finding out something I haven't even come to terms with and such...
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Alora

Quote from: needhelp on November 30, 2016, 10:59:15 AM
She's very closed minded... Talking about something like that would just mean hell of a fight and just breaking up. Plus I'm still confused about me being trans as well. Like I'm not 100% convinced yet? So talking about something like this to her would mean... I don't know... many other problems like family finding out something I haven't even come to terms with and such...

In that case I would really suggest seeking out a professional. They will be able to help you.

I'm a very impulsive person by nature. I would also suggest, taking some time for yourself and figure out what you are going to say to her if and when you decide to end things. She is going to want a reason most likely. How much are you going to want to tell her?

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LiliFee

Quote from: needhelp on November 30, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
Hey there, thought I'd stop by and share how I've been feeling. So I'm still having a hard time trying to figure out what I am... Straight, gay, trans? I'm very confused... it does feel like I am trans however...

Being confused usually means you've got too much on your plate right now. Of course you want answers, but you're not going to get them by trying to tackle the whole thing at the same time. Moreover, it'll most likely make you even more confused. So: take it easy. You don't have to save the world today.

Quote from: needhelp on November 30, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
Anyway, having a girlfriend is killing me as well, because I feel like I'm about to make her like a misery. In addition, I've come to realize that I only truly laugh around men and not with women (when my girlfriend makes a joke or something funny happens to her I force my laugh...), this also confuses me because it leads me to think that on top of being trans, I might be gay... But again, also not sure if this is a misconception up in my head...

Perhaps it's also a way of approaching the topic. You seem to want to rationalize your problems, but not all problems are like that. Sure, some things can be dealt with in a rational manner, but sadly these issues usually focus on material or societal problems, not on an emotional level. And, as with most things: it takes time.

Two steps forward, one step back. Be ready to take that step, it'll only do you good in the end.

Quote from: needhelp on November 30, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
Do MTF find other women boring for random reasons before they transition? Or only happens with MTF who later in life realize they like men (which makes them straight)
I know a lot of women that say women suck and are boring and men are fun... so maybe I'm deep down attracted to males, but as a woman? (I haven't started hormones or anything yet)..
Not sure if other MTF who then realized they liked men had the same issue, like they just could not laugh at what their SO did...

I think you're generalizing a bit here. We are all different, trans people exist in all ways, shapes and forms. Just like the rest of humanity, there's clever ones, sad ones, there's trans people with pointy ears, hell there's even trans-girls who like their AMAB-genitalia. It all exists, and it's all legitimate.

Whether others think, act or feel in a certain way doesn't influence your world in one bit. Moreover, it only makes things more complicated.

Look at it this way: Right now, you're this big ball of wool that's become a huge knot. Everything's tangled up. Sure, you want to use the wool to start knitting a nice sweater, but there's only one tiny thread of sticking out. So, you gently start pulling and unraveling. But help: the wool unravels in a different direction than you like! Still, you'd like your sweater, so you'll have to go with the thread, follow it where it leads you.

This process can take a while. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, since all of the unraveling will take you to places, feelings and thoughts you never thought you had in the first place. Perhaps there are other reasons playing into your confusion, perhaps they're related. Who knows. But only by taking the courage to follow the thread wherever it leads will you be able to get to the middle of your tangled up ball of emotions and feelings. In the end, it's a process of self-discovery and self-realization. Take your time, give yourself some pauses if need be and always remember:

Two steps forward, one step back.

Quote from: needhelp on November 30, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
Maybe I don't realize it and I don't really like women sexually? So once I get into a relationship with them I can't find anything funny or enjoyable due to the underlying anxiety? I'm starting to think maybe this is anxiety signaling that I'm the wrong gender right now, and that as well... I am dating the wrong sex as well.
I feel like offing myself a lot recently... I just don't know anymore :(...

There are people who're good at helping you unraveling it all. Good people, who don't want to see you hurt, sad or depressed. People who're going to be able to help you, whatever that help may be. Find them. You can ask a psychologist but better yet: ask around here on the forums, this place has thousands of users so there's a big chance somebody knows a good therapist close to you.

Good luck, you can do it! :D
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Raell

Sounds like you might be trans, since feeling suicidal seems almost universal for US transgender people. Gay men also often have depression and suicidal thoughts but usually that is associated with HIV issues. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/08/06/depression-and-low-self-esteem-rising-among-gay-men/

Here is the link to the online Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory test at

http://transsexual.org/cogiati/index.php?lang=en

Or just ask yourself which gender you feel you are. You may surprise yourself, as I did, when I asked that question.
You could also be partially trans, since people are a gender sliding scale.

And yeah, if you are having these feelings, you'll most likely have to break up with your girlfriend.

Normal hetero women typically date men who give them financial advantages, protect them, worship them, give them gifts, and who make their girlfriends envious and their families proud of them. These women usually have strong instincts to dump anyone who no longer meets those requirements.

If you come out, and dress as a transwoman, she'd instead be subjected to jokes, pity, ridicule, and possible danger from Trumpsters if she's seen with you in public. All the dating advantages would be gone..in fact, you would be spending your money on your own clothes and jewelry instead of on her.

If you google LGBTQ resources for your locality, you should find places where you can go for support and/or help.

In the meantime, long morning walks in the sunshine while letting your mind relax and think of nothing in particular (meditation) will reset your thyroid to give you more energy and lift your spirits, eating at least one small helping of deep ocean fish, like sardines or mackerel, a day, taking inexpensive WalMart vitamins like B complex, magnesium, 5-htp and eating plenty of fresh, organic produce should give you a mental boost.

But talking to someone at a LGBTQ center would help, or just do as I did..read online autobiographies by transgender people..plenty of inexpensive titles in the Kindle store, and see if you find yourself relating to the stories.
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AnxietyDisord3r

Needhelp, this issue with laughing, it's possible that you're bi and you've just got problems deep down with your relationship with your girlfriend that you've buried until now. Obviously something attracted the two of you together in the first place but now you're faking it with her. I've watched other people go through this and usually something had gone bad in the relationship--money issues, trust issues--and the emotions that were there at first went away. I'm sure if you think about it, you'll recall where things went wrong with your gf. If you actually sit down with her and work through those issues maybe your affection will come back. Or maybe it won't. Sometimes this is what happens before a relationship ends for good. Don't put all this pressure on your head that it means you'll never be attracted to a woman again. I've known bi people who got worked up like this but after the break up they were attracted to that gender again, it was just their relationship with a specific person that was the problem.
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Lily Rose

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  i have had all the same exact feelings as you about sexuality. the whole "am i straight, am i gay" and the, what gender am i really? the one thing i noticed the "gender tests" outside this site had in common was that most say "you are reading this" or "you are watching this video". for me it does make sense that someone comfortable with the gender they are born to will not search these things out.

  as for sexuality i have been celibate for about nine years now and maybe do miss having a companion but the sex really does not matter. if i do not know who i am how can i have a intimate relationship with someone. gay or straight really does not matter especially in 2016/17, personally do not like labels like that anyway.

  please do not consider the s-word because you are not alone. i am so scared and alone that was my user name. in the past was in a place i could not do it myself and just wanted anyone to do it for me, and got really good at making people hate me as much as i hated myself. for a long time i felt "unfortunate" no one would just do it and recently had my great awakening and now so thankful i survived. now can see something i have always wanted but to scared to take it. still fear it but can only take one step at a time and hopefully i get there.

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bluepaint

Woa! NeedHelp, lots of stereotyping in your post!  There are many women that get along with each other fine as friends and enjoy each others company and there are many MtF trans women that share same sex relationships as well! Gender and sexuality are two different things, one shouldn't assume one thing for another especially in these more enlightened days of diversity!  As far as being gay, straight or bi thats one issue, being trans or non binary or gender fluid is another! Maybe you dont laugh at your gf's jokes bc shes isn't really funny? People are very different and have different qualities, some have good senses of humour and some, its not one of their strong points! I would be cautious about evaluating yourself or your sexual preference based only on how well your relationship is going or bc you find men more appealing? Your dealing with 2 very big and different issues so do yourself a favour and find a therapist that can help you explore this so you know yourself then you will better understand how you relate to others in relationships, as friends or in more intimate ways!   blessings! [emoji177]Julie


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Raell

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Donna

I tried the attempted suicide thing and gladly failed.
Now look what it got me.
Really, really happy with myself that I am going on HRT.
No more denying.
No more ignoring the truth of who I am.
No more feeling as if I am mentally ill for wanting and wishing to be female.

Instead:
Donna is a Woman.
Donna is embracing HRT.

Never Looking Back.
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