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Started by Jen Panos, December 11, 2016, 08:37:14 PM

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Jen Panos

Hi everyone.  I am a 38 year old mom of three.  I am a sociology student.  I am doing a paper on the stigmas that the transcommunity is forced to deal with in our society.  If anyone would be open to posting here with me, I'd really appreciate it.  What kind of stigmas have you dealt with?  Or perhaps have not dealt with just yet?  Which things are the hardest?  What can the cisgender community do that it isn't doing right now?  Or anything else you'd like to share with me!  Any information I use from this board will be kept anonymous.  My paper is for one class, social psychology, so it will not be published.

Thank you!!
Jen
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Raell

Not much people can do to help until they become aware that ALL people are on a gender sliding scale, as it is with sexual orientation, and perhaps when neutral gender pronoun use is accepted, neutral bathrooms the norm.

Many extreme transphobia problems seem unique to the US, mostly from lower income evangelical Christians.

I'm a partial transmale who dresses androgynously, so don't usually experience hostility.

When I was still living as a married hetero cis female, I used to get physically ill for days after attending church dressed in nylons, heels, and dress, or before and after family reunions where I was expected to play a gender role. The dissonance made me feel sick, sometimes for weeks.

To get relief during family events, I'd generally say I was going for a jog, then run off into the woods where I felt one with nature.

The assumption that "men" and "women" should dress or behave in certain ways can be a problem for everyone. Schools shouldn't divide children into "boys" and "girls" because cis people have no idea how traumatizing it can be for a trans kindergartner to be forced into the "wrong" line, or shamed for dressing out of expectations.

Stop telling children which games to play or toys to choose based on physical appearance.

School uniforms are insanely gender binary-promoting..stuffing everyone in one of two gender boxes.. I can't imagine even a cis girl being forced to wear a skirt all day, thus not allowed to tumble, climb, run freely, or sit comfortably. It's a torture method beyond belief. If a girl wants to wear a dress, she can, but if a boy wants to wear a dress, he should also be allowed.
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HappyMoni

Hi Jen, Mom of 3,
   There are a wide range of reactions to trans people. I can speak of a good experience. I am full time (as female) in a pretty accepting state, Maryland. I work in an accepting place, a school for special ed. My family is supportive. Some reactions are very accepting. Some are just ones of tolerance. Then others are hostile. I have been lucky.
   The hardest part for me was self imposed. I was convinced I would lose everything if I came out. You have to get past your own shame and guilt. It is a struggle especially at first.
   I wish tolerant trans allies would be more visible. The reaction to the N.Carolina bathroom law is a good example of people standing up for us. The portrayal on TV has been awful until improving recently. We were either shown as freaks or the punchline of a joke. Please know trans people are usually amazing. There is a sensitivity that comes with having to deal with adversity. Thank you for your interest.
Monica
Oh, unless you pass well, you are always keeping an eye out for your safety. People of color are especially at risk.
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
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stephaniec

A few incites I've experienced recently, being looked at as if your a poisonous amoeba, being kicked out of a restaurant . being told your in the wrong bathroom, Having the double whammy of being homeless and trans , being evicted for being trans under the guise of being dirty.t   , just a few things that I have encountered recently .
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Denise

As someone who is not full time, but just spent 4 days as Denise my experiences have, I think, are unique.

I've not had one lick of issues when being Denise.  That may be for a few reasons. 

One is I tend to be in safe places and can control when and where Denise appears.  Very soon that will change and I'll be full time.  But until then I'm learning the ropes and what to do and more importantly what not to do.  Safety first and is something relatively new to me.  I'm always hyper aware of people around me now.

Two I'm employed at a company that is very accepting and everyone I work with has at least one college degree and most have two or more.

Three is that while Denise I am accepted as Denise wherever I go.  Some have referred to it as"passing privilege."

I have not had a single negative reaction to coming out to about 50 or 60 people or those who I've interacted with in person.  One sales clerk said "But this license is for Danie... Oh, wow, you look great." She smiled and continued the transaction.

So maybe I'm not the best one to respond, but it shows that it's not all doom and gloom.  Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of hate towards trans* people but I've not experienced it, yet.

There is one stigma that is an issue and that is for my wife, the appearance of being a lesbian.  What that means in the end, I don't know.

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Jen Panos

A big thank you to all the lovely people who took a moment to share with me here!  I apologize that I did not have a chance to ask further questions, all three of my kids AND I came down with a nasty stomach bug and basically everything came to a stand still for an entire week- super convenient during finals week and right before Christmas!  Ugh, what can you do?  In any case, I am just so grateful for your input.  Happy Holidays everyone!
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bluepaint

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Hi Jen,   
Im sure you will find a wealth of information here. especially if you look around in the comments of those that share stories about their lives here in regards to the hurdles and barriers they face everyday!
Its great that your doing a paper is on these issues! Ive always loved sociology , my studies took me in the direction of psychology but leaning more so to social psychology and I came back to my studies after many years in graphic design as a mature student!
Sorry , I hope you feel better! Theres been some good surveys done here in Canada just last year and recently in US and in the UK on those who are but also on public opinion as well and Its obvious that much still needs to be done to change perceptions about being transgendered! Suicide and depression are at an all time high and this is mostly from the stresses brought about from discrimination and transphobia from landlords, employers and just society itself! We've seen some major strides in visibility in bringing our existence to the forefront but prejudices continue to exists in the lives of most trans persons! Sadly cases of violence towards transpersons are also high and it demonstrates that society still has problems accepting our existence! I transitioned many years ago in the early 90s and I faced alot of discrimination but that information might not be relevant as much anymore since now we have laws and more options to persecute discriminatory practices but in my experience, most transpersons do not want to bring more attention to themselves and so many offences go unreported and thats quite understandable! hope you get a good grade on your paper!   blessings, Julie   




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HappyMoni

Jen,
Sorry for the family wide illness. I just thought I would add one thought. I am thinking the trans community will need allies to stand up and be more vocal in the coming days. Not to get into politics, but there are people who are very hostile to us who are getting more of a voice in our government with the past election. North Carolina is one positive exception and wouldn't happen without a lot of allies standing up and being heard. Have a nice holiday.
Monica
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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