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Started by Kadence1, December 22, 2016, 03:53:39 PM

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Kadence1

Hey girls and guys and everything in between! So I'm kind of confused about hair removal and what kind of method would be best for me. To start off, my body hair is different colors. Legs and arms are blonde, armpits, facial, chest/tummy and the "South Pole" are brown. I know laser hair removal doesn't pick up blonde hairs, but electrolysis will. So my question is, would laser work on face, underarms, chest, tummy, and my downstairs? Or do you recommend electro all over my body? I talked to an electrologist and she acted like I was crazy saying "You want that done on BOTH your legs PLUS arms?! That would take YEARS and drain your wallet!!! That's unheard of!" I live in Salt Lake City, UT and I have noticed there's barely any electrologists in my area. Is there any other ways of hair removal? I hate shaving because my body hair is thick, and when it grows back I usually end up with BAD ingrown hairs.... especially in my armpits and chest. Thanks for your input!!


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Deborah

For many of us HRT alone reduces all body hair to within female norms.  For me, this took about a year. 

For your face, if your hair is light then the only guaranteed method is electrolysis.


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Dena

Start with your face and start HRT. If the reduction is body hair isn't enough, then consider additional treatment. My removal was done with the blend and I had very good results with it. One exception is if you have problems with ingrown hair in a particular spot, you might  consider treatment there but save your money until you know you need body work.
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DawnOday

You can try sugaring for your body hair. You can do it yourself. It will last 4-6 weeks. Here is a tutorial. There are others on YouTube   
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LizK

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Hi Kadence1

Electrolysis will definitely kill the hair follicles, given the right conditions laser will kill the hair follicles. Save yourself a heap of money and time by understanding the hair cycle and how it works.

Laser is great for face if you have fair skin and dark hair...this is the combination that works best with laser. Laser will not act on grey, blonde, light brown etc. If your beard is not black or have black in it don't bother with laser for facial.

There are some really key things to remember with laser...you must let the hair come out of its own accord, do not pluck or pull even if you think the hair is not under tension. 

You must be clean shaved for the treatment. If the hair is long the energy is used up before it hits the bulb containing the "stem cells" and doesn't vaporise it.

Laser is painful but most seem to tolerate it far better than Electrolysis. Laser is a bit like getting snapped by a rubber band. Laser covers larger area and is far quicker. I have had 14 sessions and have another 5 or so to go, My beard is probably about 60% black and the rest white to very light brown. So the laser has taken care of about 60% or more of my facial hair removal needs.


Electrolysis is far more expensive and it "should" be permanent. Electrolysis method normally used is a single probe affair with varying currents. This is the only method I have had used on me and so is the only method I can speak to.
I find Electrolysis can be very, very, painful but you may not...everyone is different. The operator inserts the probe into the hair follicle applies enough current to the probe to turn the follicle contents into lye thereby releasing the hair which will slide out under no pressure. If you feel a tugging sensation then the chances are that hair is coming back. If your operator is experienced they will be able to operate at a level where the current is high enough to kill the hair but not too high that you end up with scarring. Scarring si one of the worst side effects of electrolysis. If your Electrologist is experienced with trans clients then you will be OK so it is best to ask what their experience is before using them. Most of us have enough hurdles without adding new ones to it.   

I hope that answers the concerns you have

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Ms Grace

I'd recommend a full body wax (although you can skip the pubes if you want, I did!). The waxing, combined with HRT over about 12 months will reduce thickness and coarseness. Yeah, it's a bit painful (nothing compared to electro)  but only takes half an hour or so, and is a fraction of a fraction of the cost full body electro. For the beard, use electrolysis if laser is not viable. There are two types of electro, thermolysis and galvanic...both painful and expensive but are at least permanent. I used multiprobe galvanic, it allowed my tech to do 32 follicles at a time and took me about 140 hours over two years.
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Cindy

 For immediate body hair removal I agree with Grace, waxing - and I also enjoyed it!

For face clear what you can if possible with laser as it is cheaper, then the long haul!

Once you are on HRT ask if your AA can be spiro, or after you have been on Crpypto for a while ask to go on Spiro, it stops body hair growth but not head or facial hair. The reasons are complex and not clear as it does not inhibit facial hair in males although it does in POCS females and stimulated head hair growth in females but not males. It isn't an easy answer..

Hair growth is a complex subject far more than most give credit too. It was the subject of my first publication in the early 70's!

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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: Cindy on December 23, 2016, 04:01:51 AM
Once you are on HRT ask if your AA can be spiro, or after you have been on Crpypto for a while ask to go on Spiro, it stops body hair growth but not head or facial hair. The reasons are complex and not clear as it does not inhibit facial hair in males although it does in POCS females and stimulated head hair growth in females but not males. It isn't an easy answer..
Spiro dropped my blood pressure too low, so my endo changed me to Androcur/cypro. Is there anything else that reduces body hair, that you know of? I have noticed extra hair on my belly since going off Spiro! :(


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Katya

For your face, if you have light skin and (some) dark hairs, then get laser first.  After that has gotten all it can get, then go for electro to pick out the light ones (for me it was grey hairs that required electro).  By all means find the very best practitioner for those, and do some research on the equipment they use and find the ones who use the best machinery too.

I am very encouraged to see a few people here reporting that spiro does indeed reduce body hair to "peach fuzz".  I was very disappointed when my endo doc told me it would be "highly optimistic" to expect HRT to have any significant effect on body hair.  I hope my doc is wrong, and I hope the voices of experience I am reading here are right, but just to be on the safe side I am also using a Remington iLight on my body hair (chest, arms, legs...)   Hopefully this combo will do the job.
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