Now they think we stole the rainbow from them.

[Cindy]

As Brandon correctly pointed out, this is the Christianity forum. If you have issues with Christianity please post elsewhere instead of stirring up trouble where it is not needed or warranted.

[Mangothedog]

To be fair, in my opinion I think that ever since the rainbow was adopted by the LGBT movement it's been heavily co-opted to the point that a rainbow is immediately associated with something 'queer' and speaking from experience, before I came out (and even still) I loathe that I cant do anything thats associated with the rainbow for fear of people immediately thinking it has to be LGBT related, many of my hetero friends feel this way as well, and none of us are even homophobic or transphobic...idk just my 0.02 cents...

[Paige]

Darn, if we had only stolen the pot of gold too. 

But seriously there are many Christians who take science seriously and understand how a rainbow works.  It's only a small minority of Christians that would worry about something like this. 




Peace,
Paige

[eyesk8rboi]

You know.....Just how everyone is trying to take the Christ out of Christmas!!!

Lest we forget, the original celebration of Christmas was winter solstice and the pagan worship of trees...But no, it was Jesus's birthday, so that's why put up trees and spend copious amount of money on useless crap we don't need and stuff our faces to the point of gluttony. (Gluttony being a sin in the bible.)

Oh...And Easter...The worship of the Egyptian goddess of fertility...but no, that was the day Jesus was crucified...So we paint eggs and stuff our face with chocolate rabbits.

Not to mention, any religion who uses the torture device used on their savior as a religion wide symbol of peace is kind of waked out.

I was raised southern baptist, and to agree I do believe in a god (of some sort), but organized religion is just so frustrating, especially when they're constantly stating they're the ones who are oppressed while they're the ones oppressing others.

[KageNiko]

We should thank them for spreading the message of pride by having such a colorful display!  How swell!

[Raell]

To me it boggles the mind that transgender and gay people would defend white evangelical Christians at all, but I suppose a lifetime of religious conditioning does that.

Kind of like Caitlyn Jenner defending the Republican party. Weird.

[Brandon]

To me it boggles the mind that transgender and gay people would defend white evangelical Christians at all, but I suppose a lifetime of religious conditioning does that.

Kind of like Caitlyn Jenner defending the Republican party. Weird.

By that logic no sinner should defend Christians because no one is perfect lol? And I don't defend those Christians that like to pick and choose because its honestly annoying and for me it's not conditioning I know my God is real because he has done so much for me, no conditioning there lol. I don't see what's wrong with having faith in whatever you believe in. Why does it matter that  Caitlyn Jenner has conservative views as far as I am concerned if you are respectful about it what's the issue?

[Brandon]

Darn, if we had only stolen the pot of gold too. 

But seriously there are many Christians who take science seriously and understand how a rainbow works.  It's only a small minority of Christians that would worry about something like this. 




Peace,
Paige

I have to respectfully disagree on that. I believe in some science and I do believe that there are genuine scientist out here trying to figure out the cause of things but the bible teaches something different as far as rainbows go.

[Deborah]

From the Epic of Gilgamesh.

"Then Ishtar arrived. She lifted up the necklace of great jewels that her father, Anu, had created to please her and said, "Heavenly gods, as surely as this jewelled necklace hangs upon my neck, I will never forget these days of the great flood. Let all of the gods except Enlil come to the offering. Enlil may not come, for without reason he brought forth the flood that destroyed my people."

The Christians stole the rainbow from the Jews who stole it from the Babylonians.

So, you give it back.


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[AnneK]

I have to respectfully disagree on that. I believe in some science and I do believe that there are genuine scientist out here trying to figure out the cause of things but the bible teaches something different as far as rainbows go.

How can you believe in "some science"?  Science is science, that is investigating to uncover evidence and fact.  That's quite different from faith, where you are told to accept something, often something that's clearly nonsense, no questions asked.

Science will tell you much more about the real world, universe, etc., about reality than religion ever will.

[staciM]

...... and for me it's not conditioning I know my God is real because he has done so much for me, no conditioning there lol. I don't see what's wrong with having faith in whatever you believe in.

I believe in unicorns, and I can attribute all my success and all the good in my life to those unicorns, because I say so....therefore  they must be real.  Btw, stop the madness...we ALL know rainbows belong with unicorns!  The difference is I'm not going to be bothered that the LGBT community also uses my precious unicorns rainbow.

[rmaddy]

Apple 'stole' it before we did, maybe they should get on their case too.

Whoa.  That means we stole it from Apple?  Riling up the fundamentalists is bad enough, but those Apple lawyers play for keeps.   

[Deborah]

Why don't you Christians complain about the Irish and their leprechauns?  Oh yeah, this isn't about the rainbow at all.  It's simply another obvious manifestation of your blatant bigotry.


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[Brandon]

How can you believe in "some science"?  Science is science, that is investigating to uncover evidence and fact.  That's quite different from faith, where you are told to accept something, often something that's clearly nonsense, no questions asked.

Science will tell you much more about the real world, universe, etc., about reality than religion ever will.

Why is what I believe in nonsense? Something that I have experience and has helped guide me through life? Rude much and I was never told to accept anything I experienced it for myself lol, for myself I prayed and asked God to show me he was real and you know what he did. Don't question my beliefs. The reason I said some science is because I don't believe we came from nowhere which is what science tells us, I don't believe in no big bang theory. I believe in God though. Lol. As far as I am concerned some science is bs which again is why I said I believe in both but more so God.

[Brandon]

Why don't you Christians complain about the Irish and their leprechauns?  Oh yeah, this isn't about the rainbow at all.  It's simply another obvious manifestation of your blatant bigotry.


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It is about the bible and what it states and just because I have in oppinion doesn't mean I am bigot but see that that's the problem with some lgbt people, some of you can't take it if someone doesn't agree with you, well let me tell you something its life! Not everyone is gonna agree with you. Some of you can be to sensitive, I could care less about who accepts me and who doesn't, you will never last in the world caring about what other people think and again, I am not a bigot. Because I follow the word.

[Brandon]

I believe in unicorns, and I can attribute all my success and all the good in my life to those unicorns, because I say so....therefore  they must be real.  Btw, stop the madness...we ALL know rainbows belong with unicorns!  The difference is I'm not going to be bothered that the LGBT community also uses my precious unicorns rainbow.

All I am saying is That's not what it was for and then all you guys wanna jump down my throat, again this is a Christian forum, where we talk about Christian like things and if you can't handle that then leave this section and that goes for everyone who is jumping down my throat.

[Lady Lisandra]

I think christians don't have any right to say someone stole from them. They've stolen from almot every religion. The ark's history is common to many cultures, in Europe, Asia, and even America. Most celebrations and symbols are stolen frm somewhere. Have you ever wonder what do rabbits and eggs have in common? Nothing, except being fertility symbols used in the spring equinox by pagan cultures. Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of december, that's when the pagans celebrated the winter solstice. Even the symbol of the goat, which originally represented fertility AND humanity, was turned by christianity into a representation of satan and pure evil for political reasons.

They should check their own history before complaining about stolen symbology.

[Deborah]

The reason I said some science is because I don't believe we came from nowhere which is what science tells us,

That everything was created from nothing, ex nihilo, is basic Christian doctrine.  So you don't believe in some science because you don't believe in what the Bible says?  That doesn't even make any sense.  Think!



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[Brandon]

I think christians don't have any right to say someone stole from them. They've stolen from almot every religion. The ark's history is common to many cultures, in Europe, Asia, and even America. Most celebrations and symbols are stolen frm somewhere. Have you ever wonder what do rabbits and eggs have in common? Nothing, except being fertility symbols used in the spring equinox by pagan cultures. Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of december, that's when the pagans celebrated the winter solstice. Even the symbol of the goat, which originally represented fertility AND humanity, was turned by christianity into a representation of satan and pure evil for political reasons.

They should check their own history before complaining about stolen symbology.

Funny thing is I know Jesus was not born on the 25th, another funny thing is, everything you just said is stuff I already knew and not every Christian agrees with that either, just like who said all Christians agree with, rabbits and Easter bunnys, or that the only reason for Christmas is gifts. Now as far as the goat head, I have to disagree the baphomet is what made people not like the goat head and consider it satanic because it was also making satanic hand gestures. Even with the flood of course that happened in other places because ir was a worldwide flood and if anything what you stated about the ark, is just more proof that it happened.

[Brandon]

That everything was created from nothing, ex nihilo, is basic Christian doctrine.  So you don't believe in some science because you don't believe in what the Bible says?  That doesn't even make any sense.  Think!



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But all of our lives were still pre destined before we were actually born though so while God did come from out of no where he still created us, which is what I believe and that's different than what science tells us. Perhaps you should think.