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Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 14, 2017, 09:51:58 PM
Between you , HappyMoni, and Gertrude ya are the only ones that understand what do you think I should do if I'm truly deemed unsuitable for the workplace my disability impairs my speed greatly in my diagnosis report there's an entire page just for that. I just wish everyone else will realize this is what I been trying to say I'm not choosing to be a slow seemingly unproductive worker I can do jobs just not the speed they expect maybe I need a brain transplant.

You know whats offensive most of the responses I gotten here these past three nights.
Ok what do you suggest then should I really be unsuitable for the workforce?? I want an answer even if its the one I don't want to hear I'm just tired of this being ignored every time I ask.
I been looking and researching this myself maybe I'm not searching right but I turn up empty each time luckily my counselor is helping on this and is getting in contact with people in and outside the system.

So you are saying you finally went and obtained a diagnosis.  Did I miss the post where you told us all what that diagnosis happens to actually be?

The reason I ask is because my wife is a social worker here in California and she works for a government agency that provides housing, services and job placements for people with autism and other disabilities.  But she never works without having a full diagnosis available first.

And I do not see how anyone here could help you without similar knowledge.



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EmilyRyan

Its a diagnosis for learning disability I've actually had it since like grade school
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EmilyRyan

Still not getting why people are against helping deal with job performance
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EmilyRyan

Like most don't get how bad it is to be criticized all the time just because I can't do things in perfect way or because I am too slow when I'm trying not to be and to lose two jobs because if it what is wrong with me wanting an employer to be more understanding and inclusive trust me if I didn't have conditions that impair a fair amount of how I function I wouldn't be talking about this constantly.

Instead of insisting that business have the right to not hire the disabled why not give me a list of all companies that make efforts to do so and why not give me lists of more services than already given I don't know what all exists to help people like me and all my searching leads to empty leads.

And if anyone insist I be self employed why not lead me to resources that will help me there.

It's really all I'm asking
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Dena

Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 14, 2017, 11:35:19 PM
Still not getting why people are against helping deal with job performance
Because other people like to eat and have a roof over their head as well. Money isn't in infinite resource so priorities need to be made as to where it should be spent.
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EmilyRyan

Still not a valid reason and as I said earlier why even post if not gonna help
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Cindy

I think everyone should calm down a little.

I interview many people for job positions and one of the early questions I ask is: "I'm interviewing X people for the position that you have applied for; why should I employ you?"

This gives the applicants a chance to expand on what they can bring to the job. It doesn't matter what job, the applicant has to bring something to it.

Recently I have started a new question. After asking what problems an applicant may have in doing the job, I give them a whiteboard marker and tell them to show me how they will overcome the problem. It makes them face a decision making process.

Now, how would you deal with these two situations?

This is an opportunity to face how to deal with your issues in a practical way. So?
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Devlyn

Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 14, 2017, 11:49:35 PM
Like most don't get how bad it is to be criticized all the time just because I can't do things in perfect way or because I am too slow when I'm trying not to be and to lose two jobs because if it what is wrong with me wanting an employer to be more understanding and inclusive trust me if I didn't have conditions that impair a fair amount of how I function I wouldn't be talking about this constantly.

Instead of insisting that business have the right to not hire the disabled why not give me a list of all companies that make efforts to do so and why not give me lists of more services than already given I don't know what all exists to help people like me and all my searching leads to empty leads.

And if anyone insist I be self employed why not lead me to resources that will help me there.

It's really all I'm asking

I mentioned before that you could do yard work. Look what this young man is doing. He wants things, and he goes and gets them.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/southeast/autism-awareness-wakerley-teenager-starts-small-business-to-learn-job-skills/news-story/486a3ba9076eaf5bf59e39741a32b035


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FTMax

Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 14, 2017, 09:51:58 PM
Ok what do you suggest then should I really be unsuitable for the workforce?? I want an answer even if its the one I don't want to hear I'm just tired of this being ignored every time I ask.

Being 100% honest, I don't think you've tried enough to actually know what you'd be good at. That is why I suggest applying for everything you can. If you wash out of it, you wash out of it but at least you'd know why it wasn't a good fit and you can say that you gave it an honest effort. But you sit here on the outside shooting down every suggestion based on previous experience that might not be applicable. Do you not think you've evolved at all since you were last employed? Were there no lessons you could take from that work into your next job? I think you're sabotaging yourself so that you don't have to actually try.

Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 14, 2017, 11:49:35 PM
Like most don't get how bad it is to be criticized all the time just because I can't do things in perfect way or because I am too slow when I'm trying not to be and to lose two jobs because if it what is wrong with me wanting an employer to be more understanding and inclusive trust me if I didn't have conditions that impair a fair amount of how I function I wouldn't be talking about this constantly.

If a "fair amount of how you function" is impaired and you have a documented disability, you probably qualify for SSDI or SSI. Perhaps while you are looking for work you could also apply to those so that you could potentially have at least some level of income.

Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 14, 2017, 11:49:35 PM
Instead of insisting that business have the right to not hire the disabled why not give me a list of all companies that make efforts to do so and why not give me lists of more services than already given I don't know what all exists to help people like me and all my searching leads to empty leads.

I told you exactly what to search for in a previous post. There are job boards that cater to people with disabilities where friendly companies post positions. You may not qualify for any of the positions posted, but you'd at least be able to see which companies are open to hiring people with disabilities.

Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 14, 2017, 11:49:35 PM
And if anyone insist I be self employed why not lead me to resources that will help me there.

If you want to be self employed you need to have an in demand skill and the means to market yourself. If you can code, do design work, take stock photos, run social media profiles, etc. make a Fiverr account and start there. I would actually suggest going to Fiverr and seeing the breadth of work being done. I'm sure you could find something that you're able to do. Doing $5 projects may not seem like a great way to make money, but you'd build a portfolio of work and you'd be able to demonstrate to potential customers why they should hire you in the future. You could also use that portfolio of work in regular job interviews to demonstrate your skills.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: FTMax on February 15, 2017, 08:32:16 AM
Being 100% honest, I don't think you've tried enough to actually know what you'd be good at. That is why I suggest applying for everything you can. If you wash out of it, you wash out of it but at least you'd know why it wasn't a good fit and you can say that you gave it an honest effort. But you sit here on the outside shooting down every suggestion based on previous experience that might not be applicable. Do you not think you've evolved at all since you were last employed? Were there no lessons you could take from that work into your next job? I think you're sabotaging yourself so that you don't have to actually try.
Yes I have tried enough more than enough in fact. The only lesson I learned is to find an understanding company that knows I'll be a reliable and productive worker despite having a disability that makes me unintentionally work slow my counselor agrees wholeheartedly why can't anyone else?? 

Quote from: FTMax on February 15, 2017, 08:32:16 AM
If a "fair amount of how you function" is impaired and you have a documented disability, you probably qualify for SSDI or SSI. Perhaps while you are looking for work you could also apply to those so that you could potentially have at least some level of income.
I want to avoid that all completely for one the process is grueling to the point it can takes years and second if I were to be approved $700 a month isn't enough for rent even in rural Tennessee. And the same ones here that are against disability accommodations will probably criticize me for that too.

Quote from: FTMax on February 15, 2017, 08:32:16 AM
I told you exactly what to search for in a previous post. There are job boards that cater to people with disabilities where friendly companies post positions. You may not qualify for any of the positions posted, but you'd at least be able to see which companies are open to hiring people with disabilities.
My searches always come up empty which why I continue to ask if anyone else can provide links and lists of employer and services.

Quote from: FTMax on February 15, 2017, 08:32:16 AM
If you want to be self employed you need to have an in demand skill and the means to market yourself. If you can code, do design work, take stock photos, run social media profiles, etc. make a Fiverr account and start there. I would actually suggest going to Fiverr and seeing the breadth of work being done. I'm sure you could find something that you're able to do. Doing $5 projects may not seem like a great way to make money, but you'd build a portfolio of work and you'd be able to demonstrate to potential customers why they should hire you in the future. You could also use that portfolio of work in regular job interviews to demonstrate your skills.
Tried coding can't grasp it to save my life. Still think about doing photos (after all photography is my life) but steady income isn't there and I looked into stuttershock I be lucky to make $5 which for many that done  this it took them months to years to get at least one sale.

Again what should I do if nothing works??

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SadieBlake

I'd suggest looking at working in university as well as government jobs as those arenas -- at least where I am do hire disabled. As you probably know, ADA requires employers to make reasonable accommodation for individual ability. Whether you talk to them about that up front is a choice. The best advice I can offer is that short of a sheltered workshop environment, employers hire everyone recognizing a range of skills and they pay accordingly.

So, contrary to advice you're getting, I'm sure there's a job for you. The best thoughts I have for you are don't be stuck on what if things don't work out and be creative about what you want to do and find a way to do it. One thing my ex wife learned in a job teaching severely disabled populations was that 'disability' always masked impressive abilities that most people don't see.

It's been my experience that anyone who truly wants to learn a skill or trade can make progress, desire goes farther than raw ability nearly all the time.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: SadieBlake on February 16, 2017, 07:17:31 AM
I'd suggest looking at working in university as well as government jobs as those arenas -- at least where I am do hire disabled. As you probably know, ADA requires employers to make reasonable accommodation for individual ability. Whether you talk to them about that up front is a choice. The best advice I can offer is that short of a sheltered workshop environment, employers hire everyone recognizing a range of skills and they pay accordingly.

So, contrary to advice you're getting, I'm sure there's a job for you. The best thoughts I have for you are don't be stuck on what if things don't work out and be creative about what you want to do and find a way to do it. One thing my ex wife learned in a job teaching severely disabled populations was that 'disability' always masked impressive abilities that most people don't see.

It's been my experience that anyone who truly wants to learn a skill or trade can make progress, desire goes farther than raw ability nearly all the time.
Thank goodness someone else that understands :)

Good news is that my college counselor is gonna speak with personal not only at my college but other colleges as well to see about hiring me for job position she's even trying to see if my college could create a job position for me. And yes she let me know there no guarantee but we'll see what happens. Hoping for the best.

You are right 'disability' does mask like I can talk about all my strengths but in the end all they see is someone with "special needs" issues. The issue I always run into about wanting to learn a new skill is that no one wants to deal with a slow learner unfortunately.   
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EmilyRyan

To those who refuse to understand my circumstances and are against those with disabilities needing job accommodations/supported employment ya are no better than the people who work at my local temp agency that always laugh at in face everytime I go there.

And instead of making anti accommodation comments why not actually help and not ignore my requests for lists of employers/companies that hire and help those with disabilities. Just saying.

Oh and thank you for making me realize more than ever that I am totally useless to society
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EmilyRyan


To those who refuse to understand my circumstances and are against those with disabilities needing job accommodations/supported employment ya are no better than the people who work at my local temp agency that always laugh at in face everytime I go there.

And instead of making anti accommodation comments why not actually help and not ignore my requests for lists of employers/companies that hire and help those with disabilities. Just saying.

Oh and thank you for making me realize more than ever that I am totally useless to society and that's not sarcasm either.
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SailorMars1994

Emily as a fellow autisitc sister in arms i can empythize with you on your struggles. I am not in your shoes but i can relate in certian ways. I think everyone here needs a big chill pill. I will not down play your struggles. but there have been alot of people who have given you some really good advice. I doubt anyone here wants to see people with disabilities be discriminated agaisnt, or atleast people with a heart dot want that. But at the same time, people have been trying. I have said try a customer service hotline for a store like Sears or what not. Others have said maybe do some kind of farm work. You will have to learn how to manage a computer in one and in the other you will have to be willing to labour around. You can also do what i did as a teenager living in rural Ontario and do some independent landscapinng or find a landscapping company. Lawn work, building treches, building fences, snow removal, house seceruity, tending to plants, ect is really fun if you can bare the heat and seeing how you live in Tennessee and not Ontario i can safley say the winter temps will rarely be physically impossible to not start/finish a task.

This is not  a lecture and please do not take it as one, but many people have been trying to give you ideas. It will be up to you at some point to decide what one is best to take. You may even have to do some job hopping. I will say avoid kitchens and construction. They are very fast pace and at times both can be grueling hard. So try something like landscaping, it is , in my experimnce, slower pace  (but be prepared to sweat like a hog) comparred to other things but you learn quite  a bit  or do a cusotmer service line.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on February 17, 2017, 11:06:02 PM
Emily as a fellow autisitc sister in arms i can empythize with you on your struggles. I am not in your shoes but i can relate in certian ways. I think everyone here needs a big chill pill. I will not down play your struggles. but there have been alot of people who have given you some really good advice. I doubt anyone here wants to see people with disabilities be discriminated agaisnt, or atleast people with a heart dot want that. But at the same time, people have been trying. I have said try a customer service hotline for a store like Sears or what not. Others have said maybe do some kind of farm work. You will have to learn how to manage a computer in one and in the other you will have to be willing to labour around. You can also do what i did as a teenager living in rural Ontario and do some independent landscapinng or find a landscapping company. Lawn work, building treches, building fences, snow removal, house seceruity, tending to plants, ect is really fun if you can bare the heat and seeing how you live in Tennessee and not Ontario i can safley say the winter temps will rarely be physically impossible to not start/finish a task.

This is not  a lecture and please do not take it as one, but many people have been trying to give you ideas. It will be up to you at some point to decide what one is best to take. You may even have to do some job hopping. I will say avoid kitchens and construction. They are very fast pace and at times both can be grueling hard. So try something like landscaping, it is , in my experimnce, slower pace  (but be prepared to sweat like a hog) comparred to other things but you learn quite  a bit. or do a cusotmer service line.
Thank you again for being one the few that understands. I just wanna say I have really tried following most the advice I gotten it's that I come up empty everytime I make an attempt to follow through and also I don't know half the time how to follow some the advice either and when I ask for extra guidance I get nothing. I'm also finally realizing too when it comes to learning a skill no one wants a slow learner like me and sorry I have no way of changing that unless there some kind of brain surgery or something.

And about landscaping I can't do it. It's not that I don't won't to I really physically can't do that kind of work I can barely lift 50 lbs as it is for lack of better word I've always been weak physically I mean I do something like stoking or something that requires a good amount of walking I can do but physically demanding jobs like landscaping, yard work, etc. is a no go plus my motor skills aren't the best either I couldn't tie my shoes till I was 12.

As for the weather in Tennessee I hate the heat wish it was 40-60 degrees year round  :laugh: :laugh:   
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SailorMars1994

Quote from: EmilyRyan on February 17, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
Thank you again for being one the few that understands. I just wanna say I have really tried following most the advice I gotten it's that I come up empty everytime I make an attempt to follow through and also I don't know half the time how to follow some the advice either and when I ask for extra guidance I get nothing. I'm also finally realizing too when it comes to learning a skill no one wants a slow learner like me and sorry I have no way of changing that unless there some kind of brain surgery or something.

And about landscaping I can't do it. It's not that I don't won't to I really physically can't do that kind of work I can barely lift 50 lbs as it is for lack of better word I've always been weak physically I mean I do something like stoking or something that requires a good amount of walking I can do but physically demanding jobs like landscaping, yard work, etc. is a no go plus my motor skills aren't the best either I couldn't tie my shoes till I was 12.

As for the weather in Tennessee I hate the heat wish it was 40-60 degrees year round  :laugh: :laugh:

I just want everyone to get a long <3. I guess another suggestion would be to try and imorove your speed and strength and moter skills. You said you see a counsillor lady/gent yes? Perhaps try to do some therapy to improve on some of that and use those same skills out of therpay too. For what its worth i too have been canned from a few jobs. Almsot if not all the time when it is in a new feild because of some of the same things you have mentioned. But over time i learned to understand it and push my self to the hardest to deliver and going above and beyond which is why in many jobs i have had i get quickly promoted :D. For what its worth i could not tie my shoes until i wqs about 15 or so give or take. What i am trying to say is all these things are hard and it will take time but everyone needs to start somewhere.

Thinking about it have you thought outside the box. Maybe try to see if you can be like an appreticship hair styleist or maybe an appreticship in carpetry or wood working? Maybe try baker, thats my current job and i love it and am mastering it.. Work with cakes :D. Anyway think about these and i wish ya well

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EmilyRyan

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on February 17, 2017, 11:33:31 PM
I just want everyone to get a long <3. I guess another suggestion would be to try and imorove your speed and strength and moter skills. You said you see a counsillor lady/gent yes? Perhaps try to do some therapy to improve on some of that and use those same skills out of therpay too. For what its worth i too have been canned from a few jobs. Almsot if not all the time when it is in a new feild because of some of the same things you have mentioned. But over time i learned to understand it and push my self to the hardest to deliver and going above and beyond which is why in many jobs i have had i get quickly promoted :D. For what its worth i could not tie my shoes until i wqs about 15 or so give or take. What i am trying to say is all these things are hard and it will take time but everyone needs to start somewhere.
How would I actually improve my speed and motor skills these are like natural impairments I have could I actually work around them??  I really have a hard time learning things if I'm not able to do it naturally are there ways to help with that?? What companies do you think I could work for??

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on February 17, 2017, 11:33:31 PM
Thinking about it have you thought outside the box. Maybe try to see if you can be like an appreticship hair styleist or maybe an appreticship in carpetry or wood working? Maybe try baker, thats my current job and i love it and am mastering it.. Work with cakes :D. Anyway think about these and i wish ya well
I found woodworking and hair stylist to be too difficult sorry. I've done baking and I rather just do it for fun and at my own pace.


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FTMax

Can you really afford right now to do anything for fun at your own pace that you are capable of getting paid for? I understand you want to look for the perfect fit, but if I remember right you were either trying to or in the process of moving and needing to pay rent.

Most grocery stores and some restaurants have night time bakers. You wouldn't have to interact with the public much at all, you'd just have to bake for most of the night, though you'd probably have to spend a little bit of time working during the day so you'd know what all to do at night. That's probably one of the better job recommendations in this thread honestly.
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EmilyRyan

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Quote from: FTMax on February 18, 2017, 08:37:37 AM
Can you really afford right now to do anything for fun at your own pace that you are capable of getting paid for? I understand you want to look for the perfect fit, but if I remember right you were either trying to or in the process of moving and needing to pay rent.
Considering I'm i the process of moving in with a friend that's letting me stay absolutely rent free I think I can afford to within reason of course.

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