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No Longer Comfortable Sharing My Body With Wife

Started by BeerBurpGirl, January 27, 2017, 05:46:23 PM

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BeerBurpGirl

I guess you could say I have reached an interesting milestone. One year into HRT and the rejection I've felt from my wife  has left me with only one conclusion as to why I no longer want to have sex with my wife when I do still want sex overall. We used to have pretty damn good sex before transition, but I'll be honest it always felt like something was missing for me slightly that I never could fully understand until my medical transition started. At first I did want sex with her but things just never really went well. Everything is awkward now and I know deep down she doesn't see me as a woman. She has admitted it to me and in fact she let out that she views my transgender diagnosis as a mentally ill issue. My body has become an uncomfortable thing for her, so it's been very hard to sort out my progress in transition as a result. There is this transfer of those feelings that seep into how I feel and view myself. I guess I'm lucky she has stuck around this long, but now we can see now that even with the best intentions it feels like the change in chemistry between us seems to be trumping everything else. It feels now like regardless of how much we try, the chemistry thing will always be wrong.  We could be in the best of head space and it just wont matter. I didn't know why for a long time where this was going and why I was feeling such aversion to sex with my wife, but now it just feels like it has become her trying to have sex with the ghost of the man I used to be. Medical transition has been great to me physically and the changes are mentally pleasant, but it's obviously very bad for my sex life with the wife. Not sure where this will go,  because she isn't ok with sharing me with anyone else. This in turn makes transition and my second puberty just as miserable as my first in summation. So if I'm not happy and now I've made the rest of my family unhappy then what was the point? I feel like I have blossomed in a wonderful way, but have spent almost no time appreciating it and fully integrating my true self and instead it still feels like the elephant in the room. I'm very sad and depressed about this. I HATE BEING TRANS!!!! But at least I now have a way to verbalize the situation a little better and perhaps letting her know that I'm no longer comfortable with sharing my body and spirit with her might help me to take back ownership and perhaps heal a bit. Does anyone have a similar story? Are there any other good ways to heal or even some hope to this situation?

-Hugs BBG
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MissGendered

Quote from: BeerBurpGirl on January 27, 2017, 05:46:23 PM
I guess you could say I have reached an interesting milestone. One year into HRT and the rejection I've felt from my wife  has left me with only one conclusion as to why I no longer want to have sex with my wife when I do still want sex overall. We used to have pretty damn good sex before transition, but I'll be honest it always felt like something was missing for me slightly that I never could fully understand until my medical transition started. At first I did want sex with her but things just never really went well. Everything is awkward now and I know deep down she doesn't see me as a woman. She has admitted it to me and in fact she let out that she views my transgender diagnosis as a mentally ill issue. My body has become an uncomfortable thing for her, so it's been very hard to sort out my progress in transition as a result. There is this transfer of those feelings that seep into how I feel and view myself. I guess I'm lucky she has stuck around this long, but now we can see now that even with the best intentions it feels like the change in chemistry between us seems to be trumping everything else. It feels now like regardless of how much we try, the chemistry thing will always be wrong.  We could be in the best of head space and it just wont matter. I didn't know why for a long time where this was going and why I was feeling such aversion to sex with my wife, but now it just feels like it has become her trying to have sex with the ghost of the man I used to be. Medical transition has been great to me physically and the changes are mentally pleasant, but it's obviously very bad for my sex life with the wife. Not sure where this will go,  because she isn't ok with sharing me with anyone else. This in turn makes transition and my second puberty just as miserable as my first in summation. So if I'm not happy and now I've made the rest of my family unhappy then what was the point? I feel like I have blossomed in a wonderful way, but have spent almost no time appreciating it and fully integrating my true self and instead it still feels like the elephant in the room. I'm very sad and depressed about this. I HATE BEING TRANS!!!! But at least I now have a way to verbalize the situation a little better and perhaps letting her know that I'm no longer comfortable with sharing my body and spirit with her might help me to take back ownership and perhaps heal a bit. Does anyone have a similar story? Are there any other good ways to heal or even some hope to this situation?

-Hugs BBG

HI BBG,

Umm, yeah, I do have a similar story. I think I know exactly how you feel and how invalidating such things are..

I wrote about my experiences with my ex a short time ago, and I find the topic very triggering, so I hope you don't mind if I just copy and paste a portion of it here for you to read.

Here goes:

"First, a disclaimer, I am not a male to female transitioner, so my perspective may come from a slightly different angle. I was mis-genedered due to a medical situation, I am actually an XX female that was forced through an early childhood FTM conversion. But, that is irrelevant, mostly..

Okay, sooo, ugh...

When I started HRT, it was with the idea that I would take just enough to remedy my emotional distress. My spouse and I intended to stay together, and I cherished our sex life, I loved penetrating her, and she loved receiving me inside her. Unfortunately, my body craved the E, and it changed very rapidly, though I was able to stay erect well over a year into HRT therapy. Very early on, though, the nature of my erections changed, and I could tell I was no longer exciting her with my arousal. She began to become passive-aggressive and eventually abusive, and this was one of the reasons she cited, but that is neither here nor there...

What also happened was that I began to resent her wanting me to stay like I had been all along, and this made me even more dysphoric. We did continue to make love, and I was able to please her orally as usual, but her eyes would be closed, and her mind elsewhere. This broke my heart, for the man she fell in love with, and had desired so deeply for almost 2 decades, was now gone, no matter how I protested I was still me, to her, I was not.

After one last humiliating and futile attempt, about 14 months after my first E dose, she snapped and beat me up. I broke up with her shortly afterward, though we agreed to try to work out our relationship as sister/friends. But the damage was done, and I had to actually have the police intervene 10 months later, and I had to ask her to move out. A week later she was in bed with a man back in her hometown, and just recently she married a different guy. She rejected all notions of being bi or pansexual, and pretended I had been a man all along and started calling me 'he' again.

The irony here is that now that I have had my vagina reconstructed, I am also only interested in being penetrated by hetero men, and I can see her point very clearly. There is something about the very act, with a very excited man, that is undeniably what I need. I feel horrid saying this, and shallow, and somewhat like a traitor, but it is true. I love how other women look, feel, smell, and relate, and I have dated trans-girls, but at the end of the day, I need to be penetrated by a virile man. Toys and strappies are fun, but no, they are not the same. His excitement, and climax, and all that comes with it, is what I crave. For me, nothing else satisfies on so many primal levels.

So, that is my story, and my take on it. My history and experiences are my own, nobody else's, so please, don't think I am saying I know how things are, or will be, for anybody else. I have no way of knowing anything of that sort. But I do know, for my ex-spouse, and for myself, having the real thing is what makes our bells ring."

That is more than you asked for, but for me, all these things were related..

I hope you have better luck than I did..

((HUGS))

Missy
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Hope springs

Im in kind of a  similar situation. When i mentioned hormones the wife stopped having sex with me. Im weeks or even months from my first pill but no nookie for me. But to be honest the sex has been mediocre since im came out trans. It obviously is traumatic for an SO to hear their husband of 'X' years is a woman inside.
   The fact your wife cant fully engage you as a woman isnt surprising. Imagine if she was Ftm and you were cis. Wanting to be addressed and treated like a man and even be intimate that way, yet you were cis herero? Its a challenge for both of you. Obviously i dont know your dynamic. But it sounds like you still get along well, however intimacy may never recover. There are only 3 options. She accepts you are a woman and is ok with intimacy ( not likely unless she is bi). You open the relationship up. You divorce.
   Bleak choices. Its why im sure a truly happy ttansexual has an iron will and is tougher than nails. We have been forged in a truly hellish fire.
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Sophia Sage

For me it was kind of the other way around -- as I transitioned, my bottom dysphoria grew to such an extent that I was completely unwilling to engage in sexual activity of any kind; I just couldn't stand the body I was in.  It was only after SRS that I could finally have sex again. 

I'm actually quite surprised that my partner at the time stuck around for nearly two years, given that. 

QuoteEverything is awkward now and I know deep down she doesn't see me as a woman.

But the other thing that niggled at me was something along the lines of this, and I think it's quite telling for you.  Of course you're not able to integrate yet -- you're living with someone who can't gender you properly.  It's a huge reason why I decided to practice non-disclosure, and for me I was living with someone who was much more supportive, but (usually) in the end there are old memories and old patterns that can't be overcome.  That was just as dysphoria-inducing as anything to do with my body.

I'm sorry, but I think you've got some very difficult decisions to make.
What you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it.
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JoanneB

After dropping the T-Bomb on your wife has her response to the news changed any? If she was hostile from day one and still is it seems like the only only reason she is still around is the level of safety and security staying together brings is better then the unknowns she will face leaving you.

Keeping up with the sex demands I'm sure was easy at first, before physical changes started to take effect. And perhaps before other aspects of your presentation and behavior. As my wife liked to say "It is hard to think of you as a husband when you have nicer boobs then I do". Before hearing that one of her favorite lines was "I did not marry a woman"

Dropping the T-Bomb is a MAJOR game changer. Yes, both of your life's and future dreams forever changed. Some of the wounds can be healed. Others can not.
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Beth Andrea

My ex and I were able to part ways amicably after she said she can't be married to a woman, "I'm not a lesbian!"

Being trans is difficult, and a hard road...it's worth it to be true to yourself. But being a spouse can be even more difficult, because his/her orientation rarely adapts, and the person they married is changing before their eyes. The marriage will then change from being intimate to just being friends.

Have you seen a therapist to help with transition, including marriage issues?

...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Mina.ts

Quote from: BeerBurpGirl on January 27, 2017, 05:46:23 PM
I guess you could say I have reached an interesting milestone. One year into HRT and the rejection I've felt from my wife  has left me with only one conclusion as to why I no longer want to have sex with my wife when I do still want sex overall. We used to have pretty damn good sex before transition, but I'll be honest it always felt like something was missing for me slightly that I never could fully understand until my medical transition started. At first I did want sex with her but things just never really went well. Everything is awkward now and I know deep down she doesn't see me as a woman. She has admitted it to me and in fact she let out that she views my transgender diagnosis as a mentally ill issue. My body has become an uncomfortable thing for her, so it's been very hard to sort out my progress in transition as a result. There is this transfer of those feelings that seep into how I feel and view myself. I guess I'm lucky she has stuck around this long, but now we can see now that even with the best intentions it feels like the change in chemistry between us seems to be trumping everything else. It feels now like regardless of how much we try, the chemistry thing will always be wrong.  We could be in the best of head space and it just wont matter. I didn't know why for a long time where this was going and why I was feeling such aversion to sex with my wife, but now it just feels like it has become her trying to have sex with the ghost of the man I used to be. Medical transition has been great to me physically and the changes are mentally pleasant, but it's obviously very bad for my sex life with the wife. Not sure where this will go,  because she isn't ok with sharing me with anyone else. This in turn makes transition and my second puberty just as miserable as my first in summation. So if I'm not happy and now I've made the rest of my family unhappy then what was the point? I feel like I have blossomed in a wonderful way, but have spent almost no time appreciating it and fully integrating my true self and instead it still feels like the elephant in the room. I'm very sad and depressed about this. I HATE BEING TRANS!!!! But at least I now have a way to verbalize the situation a little better and perhaps letting her know that I'm no longer comfortable with sharing my body and spirit with her might help me to take back ownership and perhaps heal a bit. Does anyone have a similar story? Are there any other good ways to heal or even some hope to this situation?

-Hugs BBG
Hi BBG
I read your story. It was very sad and touching. I felt sorry for you and her. I think maybe the point was she was not really a lesbian girl or maybe she is bisexual at all. But labels does not matter. I was in the same situation but I realize my wife need a man instead of me. It was heart breaking for me but I felt that even we are very close emotionally but having a wife involves and requires some other things which I couldn't gave it to her. She was acting to love me back but I asked her to be herself and be honest. Our emotional connection will never fade away but I know that our ways are separated. I felt sad writing this and I don't know anyone to blame for it. I presume your wife need help in any way necessary.
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Beth Andrea

Mina (and BBG),  there is no blame in these situations...it is what it is. Try to resist the urge to point fingers, it just aggravates those around you (speaking from experience).
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Kylo

I know what you mean.

At this point I could still partake, but it's put a certain distance and trepidation where before there was casual familiarity. It's absolutely because of how I know I'm being looked at by the other person. I know what they want, and what they want isn't what I am, and maybe if I was more into humiliation or something I could handle that, but I'm not. It does feel humiliating to be desired as something you're not, and it is demoralizing to think you may just be being used until you are no longer desirable.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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MissGendered

Quote from: Kylo on February 03, 2017, 09:15:56 PM
I know what you mean.

At this point I could still partake, but it's put a certain distance and trepidation where before there was casual familiarity. It's absolutely because of how I know I'm being looked at by the other person. I know what they want, and what they want isn't what I am, and maybe if I was more into humiliation or something I could handle that, but I'm not. It does feel humiliating to be desired as something you're not, and it is demoralizing to think you may just be being used until you are no longer desirable.

((HUG))

Wishing you get what you really want, and totally deserve, Kylo.

Missy
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Kylo

I probably deserve everything I get, good or bad, but I appreciate that, thanks.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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BeerBurpGirl

The wife and I do go to therapy and somehow things have taken a turn for the better lately. We are talking and opening up more now. The pink elephant in the room can't be ignored any longer. Somehow we have grown closer and it almost seems like her sexuality is in transition now. She has pointed out that I'm more like my old self lately as well, I guess the hyper transition mode has wore off and things feel more routine now. I've realized that I can't drink away these hard emotions any longer and have been confronting them head on and crying a lot. We have a young child so we don't get a lot of time together alone. She wants to get intimate with me but I'm really nervous still. I'm worried my body and mind will betray me and I'll find myself frustrated about my lack of a vagina and my ability to be in the moment will cause issues. Then she will notice this and I'll be forced to talk about it after pleasuring her when all we both want is to really be able to connect physically again. We both really miss it.

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staciM

Sorry in advance, but this topic requires to be a bit graphic.

If penetrative relations is specifically what your wife is desiring, that's another issue to be  conquered.  However, there are several ways to be intimate where both parties can be satisfied without traditional intercourse.  My wife and I have favoured these alternative ways of pleasure for years....making love as woman.  She's  understood my needs as my true gender and we have adapted so we are both completely fulfilled.  Without being too graphic, my current natural appendage is thought of as a clitoris and is only ever "used" as such.  This has helped immensely with my dysphoria.

This starts with your wife's acceptance...that's key.  She needs to understand who you REALLY are and what your needs are.  Conversely, if she "needs" penetration, use toys.  If she "needs" a man, then you can't be expected to provide that and you need to have a more difficult discussion.  However, another option may be using a strap-on harness with your own appendage exiting the front.  This may help you stay in a woman's roll while your wife still gets her needs met.  Think lesbian intercourse, rather than man/woman....the mind is a powerful instrument.

Regardless, nobody wins if neither of you are being true to each other or yourselves.  When you open-up entirely to each other, sex is also take to an entirely new level.....more emotional/mental, less "just" physical.
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