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I was born with 'ambiguous genitalia'...

Started by MissGendered, January 12, 2017, 06:27:10 PM

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MissGendered

Jeez, that looks as rude in print as it sounds saying it out loud..

I am very leery being here, I have been torn to shreds by the trans community in the past, but I can't find any place else on the internet to vent. I don't expect anybody to understand, unless they have been through the same thing, but I have never met anybody else that has my history. I know there must be others like me, but folks like me don't jump up and down and announce ourselves, we lay low, and try to pretend nothing is different about us, that there is nothing 'wrong' with us.

But, I cannot stand the loneliness another second. I just don't fit in anywhere unless I lie about my past. I am a fundamentally honest woman, and no matter how I try to manage my history, there is no right answer. Either I am lying to myself, or my lover, or both. And if I tell the truth, I am looked at as if I am a freak. Or mistaken for trans, and subjected to trans-hate or homophobic reactions.

So, please, be gentle with me. I am such a strong person, I have survived so very much, and yet, even after doing everything I can to make things right, I can find no one that understands, let alone somebody that will love me.

I am generally very well-adjusted, and optimistic, and full of joy. But lately, well, the last few days, I have been despondent. I fell in love with a man that I thought was special, different, smart enough, and secure enough to be my life partner. Then, after love-making, he saw my scars 'down there', and asked what they were from...

I didn't want to tell him anything, but I had just told him "I love you" for the first time, so after balling my eyes out for 20 minutes, I slowly told him the whole story, bit by bit, layer after layer, laying my history and soul to bare before him. He was sweet, at first, but yeah, the earth shifted beneath us, and now, he is gone..

You see, when I was born, I was born with a large clitoris. Large enough that I was mistaken for an hermaphrodite. There are other factors, I was exposed to DES in utero, for example, but as my gyno says; "we will never know exactly what is going on with you on the molecular level'. Yay, how comforting is that?

Anyway, so my parents had been hoping for a boy. And in those days, it was believed that gender was taught, not inborn, so the nice Catholic doctors told them they could 'choose' my gender. They also instructed them to never, ever, tell me what they were about to do, and never, ever, let me act like a girl. Then they took me away from my mother and performed the first surgeries on me, followed by another set at 6 months and yet another at 18 months. They sewed up my vagina, excised my labia, cut my clitoris free, relocated my urethra to the tip of my neo-penis, reshaped my clitoral hood into a neo-scrotum, trans-located my ovaries into the neo-scrotum, and removed most of my uterus.

I feel like I am betraying myself telling all this here, laying myself bare, again, and leaving myself open for attack. Please, please, don't make me regret sharing this!

My parents were brutal in enforcing my assigned gender. My father was especially brutal, he actually hated me, because, of course, I knew I was a girl, and I kept saying I was a girl, and to him, I was a shameful, hideous freak that reflected poorly on his manhood. And he could never admit he made a mistake, even if he had to beat me every day, he was convinced he could beat me into being an actual boy. But he could not. Instead, he beat me into pieces. You see, he gave me DID. He broke me. I have multiple personality disorder, on top of everything else, like icing on the proverbial cake.

Of course, I don't have a Y chromosome, so I never started to look like a boy. They pumped me full of growth hormones to make me grow bigger, but I never started puberty. So, they pumped me full of testosterone. Even so, I didn't feel like a boy. I wasn't a boy. I was a lost little girl, broken into over a dozen alters by the time I reached high school. Finally, one of my 'tough girl' alters had had enough, and she confronted my father, and the beating that ensued lasted forever, and left my face very badly bruised and swollen. My mother had to keep me out of school until the swelling and bruising had subsided, and she told me she would kill me if I ever told on my father for beating me. But, worse than that, my father had broken my mind yet again, and what arose next was the first male alter. The first of many, many, male alters. And 'his' first order of business was to deny our femaleness, and learn to act like a man. To act like a big man, an important, cocky, arrogant man. And for the next several decades, successive male alters ran my life. They succeeded in finding work that suited our true female nature, oh yes, but every one of them acted like an alpha male.

So, of course, I was miserable just below the surface. And to make a long story short, the facts of my birth and 'corrective surgeries' eventually came to light, and I lost my spouse, my career, most of my friends, and all my possessions as I de-transitioned back to female. I started HRT and grew A cups in a little over a month, B cups by three months, and when I mentioned that to the trans community, I was accused of being a liar, and was attacked mercilessly. The gender therapist I was seeing threw me into the trans community for 'support', and it was a disaster. I was a like a duck in the henhouse, and they pecked me relentlessly. I stayed away from the trans community for many, many years, and only very reluctantly am I posting this here now.

I have had vaginal reconstruction surgery (Dr. B is a GENIUS!) and over 100 hours of electrolysis, but all of that was very expensive and painful, but very necessary. I still need to take a $25k trip to Buenos Aires to see Dr. DiMaggio, but who knows when? I will not rest until every single thing I can do to undo the travesty that was inflicted on my body has been done.

For me, de-transitioning was pretty easy and smooth, all I had to do was let my littles walk and talk for me, and 'passing' was a breeze. My male alters had to learn to act like a woman, that was soo weird, because we all have different voices. But, all of my alters are on board, and the only things that get me 'outed' nowadays are my history, and my scars, and my inconvenient attachment to honesty.

And that is the rub. I want to be able to live as if none of this ever happened, to live in 'deep stealth', as trans people call it, but, I hate being dishonest, I really do. I just had my heart broken for telling all to my boyfriend, and who knows if he will be telling everybody my story? I may have to move away, again, and change my name, again, just to have any piece of mind at all.

When I was first de-transitioning, several trans girls told me they wished that they were me, that I should be grateful I was born a girl, and that my journey was going so very well. But that is sooo wrong, and shortsighted. Nobody deserves what I went through, and nobody deserves what I will always have to go through for the rest of my life. I just want to have been left alone. Had my parents not mutilated my sex organs and pumped me full of growth hormone and testosterone, the only thing different about me would have been my large clit, and that would have been no problem for me at all. But, we can't always get what we want, can we?

Thank you for allowing a space on your forum for a girl like myself to vent and tell my story.

We are all humans. We all deserve dignity, respect, honesty, companionship, compassion, and love.

Mostly love.

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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. There are several others on this site who were forced into the wrong gender as children. They had to undergo surgery much like you and received hormones that were wrong for them. You are safe on this site as we welcome anybody regardless of being transgender or not. Should somebody treat you badly on this site, hit the report to moderator button on the right of the post and we will take corrective action. Much of the time we spot problems like this before they are reported but it's not a problem reporting the issue  twice.

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HappyMoni

Oh my gosh what an amazing thing that you have survived all that. I would never doubt your story. I am so sorry for all that you have been put through. No one deserves what you have had imposed on you. I am honored that you would share your story with us. From all I have seen on this site, I think that people will respect you and what you bring to the table. My name is Monica. Count me as someone you can talk to if you would like to.
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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MissGendered

Than you, Dena...

I don't know if I will spend much time here, I feel so much better already from having released my truth back into the universe, but I am comforted by your commitment to the humane treatment of all your membership. My past experiences aside, I do know that trans people are often some of the most generous, perceptive, and kind-hearted individuals one may ever hope to meet. There is much common ground between us, such as having been (or being) in the wrong body, experiencing dysphoria and dysmorphia, being mistreated, and misunderstood, by family, friends, doctors, therapists, and society, and so forth. And, I was once a trans-person myself, an unwilling FTM transsexual, in fact, but that is all starting to become a very long time ago, and the memory has faded, and has been long reshaped, and my internal narrative now only reflects my actual truth, and requires no filtering. Well, not until I am subjected to in-depth, and at-length scrutiny, and then I reach a crossroad where I must choose deliberate dishonesty or face the consequences of disclosure. The truth is that I am okay with all of it now, and I know that the problems that ensue after telling all are only a reflection of unresolved issues in the minds of those that cannot deal with my non-standard life journey. It's not my fault that my ex-boyfriend feels 'gay' for having been with me. He needs to face whatever unexplored and unwanted sexual reactions he is having to my past in therapy. Were he fully secure in his manhood, he wouldn't be threatened by my past, but only saddened for me, and happy for me that I have risen to the challenges, and am doing fine now. I was never a man, no matter how convincingly I portrayed one for survival's sake.

Again, thank you for the warm welcome.

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MissGendered

Hello Monica!

You are sweet, thank you.

There are many more side-issues that added to my early life misery. I was sexually abused by my psycho oldest brother until he was caught and kicked out, I suffered constant physical abuse by my other brother, a sociopathic menace, and relentless harassment and beat-downs at school (and in my neighborhood) by boys that thought I was gay. There were countless humiliations in gym locker rooms for having a micro-penis, no body hair, and zero muscle tone, by both students and gym teachers. Then came 13 years of alcoholism and drug addictions, misdiagnoses as bipolar, and mis-prescribed psyche drugs, and over half a decade of 8 mg a day prescription Xanax addiction, followed by the most horrendous withdrawal in the history of humankind, lol. It was then that I had the seizure that shut down my brain's core, and began a seven year reign of alters. When my brain finally healed and my core personality rose up out of the blackness a month and a half ago, my de-transition had already been accomplished, and I had to relearn what my alters already knew, and had to start to 'remember' what they had been doing in my absence. I saw a lot of it as I slept, but only like a movie on a screen at a drive-in while dozing in a car full of dozens of chattering friends. Yeah, what a long, strange trip this has been! I awoke with a boyfriend, a vagina, boobs, a new life, new clothes, a new location, a new everything. But somehow, I am still who I always had been, somewhere, all along.

My family was pretty stoked that I came back, they thought I was gone for good, and that I would always be in pieces. It was a happy re-awakening. I was especially happy to find that my sisters and female relatives were all very supportive of me being restored to my female anatomy. I know a lot of trans people are rejected by their kin, but my family remembered the 'clues' and accepted the truth without hesitation, even before they saw any of the reams of medical documentation. I am a very, very lucky woman! I have so much to be grateful for, and my joy is genuine, even though my loneliness is so very, very profound..

Thank you for your trust in my truth.
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Miss Lux

Quote from: Dena on January 12, 2017, 07:26:10 PM
Welcome to Susan's Place. There are several others on this site who were forced into the wrong gender as children. They had to undergo surgery much like you and received hormones that were wrong for them. You are safe on this site as we welcome anybody regardless of being transgender or not. Should somebody treat you badly on this site, hit the report to moderator button on the right of the post and we will take corrective action. Much of the time we spot problems like this before they are reported but it's not a problem reporting the issue  twice.

This is primary a medical information/support site and we don't allow personal conflict to take place on this site. You have as much right to explore yourself on this site and anybody else. If there is anything I can help you with, let me know.

We issue to all new members the following links so you will best be able to use the web site.

Things that you should read


Awwwwww.... I so love you Dena!!!! You are so nice and comforting ....you always know the right things to say to a person in distress.......
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Jacqueline

MissG,

Welcome to the site.

You are incredibly strong to make it through all that. Also for sharing your innermost secrets and pains. I would like to think that there is no one who would misuse you on our site. However, as Dena stated, we try to keep a close eye on what goes on. Even with the large number of members. You should be safe here.

You are not alone here. Without having met, we are family.

I wish you love, acceptance and a smooth path from here on.

With warmth,

Joanna
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
Full Time June 1, 2018





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mac1

MissGendered,

You have certainly had a very rough time.  That is why genital surgery of infants should be avoided except for that which is necessary for proper bodily functions.  The child should be allowed to make the choice when old enough to make the choice.
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MissGendered

Quote from: Joanna50 on January 13, 2017, 10:38:30 PM
MissG,

Welcome to the site.

You are incredibly strong to make it through all that. Also for sharing your innermost secrets and pains. I would like to think that there is no one who would misuse you on our site. However, as Dena stated, we try to keep a close eye on what goes on. Even with the large number of members. You should be safe here.

You are not alone here. Without having met, we are family.

I wish you love, acceptance and a smooth path from here on.

With warmth,

Joanna

Thank you, Joanna!

It has been a long and winding road, but there have been amazing vistas, and incredible relationships, and great pleasures all along the way. Most of my severe pain was limited to my first two decades of life. What came afterward was often very confusing, lol, but extraordinary as well. My personal achievements in the creative arts were sufficient to keep my head above water, and my blood in my veins, though I was at the end of my rope with alarming regularity, for sure.

There is a Japanese art form called 'KIntsugi' that is my personal model for healing. It is basically a way to fix broken pottery with gold or silver-infused epoxy, which renders the shattered clay into something not only again functional, but stronger, and more beautiful, than the original object in question. I am a 'glass half full' kinda woman, I have learned, finally, through MUCH trauma therapy, DID therapy, and personal experience, to release my negativity back into the universe, and to open up pathways for not only healing, but succeeding, and excelling, as I move forward through time. Was any of this easy? Hmm, well, yes, some was very easy, but truth be told, it was a purification by fire, and the journey took me through the seven circles of hell, down to Mordor, and to the edge of the known universe, and back. Without having completed this round trip, my world view would certainly be much, much, much more pessimistic, bitter, and hateful. But, having reached full circle, even though I still desire some physical remodeling, I am 'good' with it all already.

Thank you for your further assurances of fair treatment and kind consideration on your site. The world is full of good and helpful humans, and even when the hateful ones are yelling the loudest, the fact remains that goodness cannot be extinguished from outside us. We are all masters and mistresses of our own experience, and I hope that all humans someday realize this fact, and make good use of its potential to re-align one's self for the greater good.

Much love!

MissG
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Jacqueline

Your metaphor of fixing broken pottery is wonderful and powerful. Thank you for sharing that. I cannot fully understand all you went through. However, I can certainly empathize with it. The strength and beauty from within must shine to the outside as well.

Wow, I sound like a Hallmark card. Sorry. I do sincerely mean it though.

Stay strong yet flexible.

With warmth,

Joanna
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
Full Time June 1, 2018





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MissGendered

#10
Quote from: mac1 on January 13, 2017, 10:57:39 PM
MissGendered,

You have certainly had a very rough time.  That is why genital surgery of infants should be avoided except for that which is necessary for proper bodily functions.  The child should be allowed to make the choice when old enough to make the choice.

mac1,

Indeed, the interests of parents in these situations have long overshadowed the rights and needs of the children. My first remembered words were "I am a girl", as I had already felt myself to have been miscast as something other than myself. This enraged my father. He was a man that never admitted a mistake, or a failure, or even having had a genuine emotion. Basically, as a human, his abject failure is epic.

These mis-assignments are still being perpetrated behind closed doors. My heart goes out to all that receive such a welcome into this world. Such things tend to dominate what ever might else have been...

I hope you find your way to your desired goals, as well. Hang in there, it can happen, make it so..

MissG
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MissGendered

Quote from: Joanna50 on January 14, 2017, 12:02:12 AM
Your metaphor of fixing broken pottery is wonderful and powerful. Thank you for sharing that. I cannot fully understand all you went through. However, I can certainly empathize with it. The strength and beauty from within must shine to the outside as well.

Wow, I sound like a Hallmark card. Sorry. I do sincerely mean it though.

Stay strong yet flexible.

With warmth,

Joanna

((HUGS))

Thank you, I needed that..
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MissGendered

Quote from: MissGendered on January 12, 2017, 06:27:10 PM
I may have to move away, again, and change my name, again, just to have any piece of mind at all.


Sooo, on a lighter note..

I just caught this typo, lol, and for a DID person, this is the ultimate 'Freudian Slip'...

Y'all have been awesome so far, thank you so much for your generous reception..

Thank you!

MissG
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HappyMoni

Dear MissG,
I have to say that your strength, will, or spirit, whatever you call it, is inspiring. You not only have survived but seem to have come through it as a warm, sensitive, strong woman. I am curious as to how clearly you envision what is next for you. Finding love is such a difficult thing for so many. I think this is something you mentioned in your intro. Is this your next mountain to climb? Sorry, I don't mean to seek information that is more than you want to share. I guess based on what you have posted, I wouldn't bet against you climbing that mountain, though.
I know you seemed very hesitant to post initially. I can't say that I understand how things have been for you. This site is kind of an amalgamation of people who the vast majority  of people can never truly understand on a personal experience basis. I am thankful you post. It is helpful to see your perspective. It makes me less isolated in my little trans bubble to know your story is there. I want people to be okay with me, obviously. I know you want similar acceptance and respect. It really makes me angry that others, upon hearing your story, have treated you unkindly. Thanks for expanding my mind a bit.
With warm feelings,
Moni
PS I corrected my typo. Instead of "  vast majority", I initially put "waste majority." Not sure what type of "slip" that was.
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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MissGendered

Quote from: HappyMoni on January 14, 2017, 11:09:27 AM
Dear MissG,
I have to say that your strength, will, or spirit, whatever you call it, is inspiring. You not only have survived but seem to have come through it as a warm, sensitive, strong woman. I am curious as to how clearly you envision what is next for you. Finding love is such a difficult thing for so many. I think this is something you mentioned in your intro. Is this your next mountain to climb? Sorry, I don't mean to seek information that is more than you want to share. I guess based on what you have posted, I wouldn't bet against you climbing that mountain, though.
I know you seemed very hesitant to post initially. I can't say that I understand how things have been for you. This site is kind of an amalgamation of people who the vast majority  of people can never truly understand on a personal experience basis. I am thankful you post. It is helpful to see your perspective. It makes me less isolated in my little trans bubble to know your story is there. I want people to be okay with me, obviously. I know you want similar acceptance and respect. It really makes me angry that others, upon hearing your story, have treated you unkindly. Thanks for expanding my mind a bit.
With warm feelings,
Moni
PS I corrected my typo. Instead of "  vast majority", I initially put "waste majority." Not sure what type of "slip" that was.

Monica,

My next mountain? Probably self-acceptance, to be honest. And maybe next should come indifference to the opinions of others. But only without allowing myself to become thick-skinned and calloused.

Then, gathering finances.

Then, facial remodeling and a few other procedures to optimize my appearance.

Then, implementing my deep stealth plan.

As it happens, my ex-boyfriend has had half a change of heart. He has decided he still finds me very desirable, and that my past doesn't make me unattractive to him sexually, BUT he cannot see himself falling in love with me and marrying me, for his own reasons. We have decided to stay friends with benefits for now, and see what may or may not develop. This is not a perfect solution, though validating in many ways, but I am not happy to love a man that does not love me, but I am happy to be able to love a man at all, especially one that rings my bell. Either he will fall for me or he won't, but I will find a true love again someday, and that knowledge cannot be taken from me by any man.

Yes, I was reluctant, at first. I was hurting very deeply, and my pain was clouding my vision for my future. I am over that now. And I am better for the tears I shed. You have also helped me, sweetie, thank you!

You are also a very kind woman, never underestimate your potential, nor your current value. You rock, sister, never forget that fact..

MissyG
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MissGendered

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Quote from: HappyMoni on January 14, 2017, 11:09:27 AM
It really makes me angry that others, upon hearing your story, have treated you unkindly.

Monica,

There have been a wide variety of reactions from those that have heard my story in detail.

Cis women have been universally outraged and angry at what happened to me, and immediately accepting, even when I still appeared male to their eyes. Now that I look as I do, they are even more sympathetic and bewildered that a woman had to go through any of that stuff.

Female doctors and therapists have been known to weep. Male doctors tend to be indifferent to my past suffering, but are fascinated with me as a 'case'. My gyno says he has waited 30 years for such a woman to walk through his door. I have to openly discourage male doctors from turning me into some kind of study, whether genetic, neurological, psychological, or medical. Female doctors understand my desire for privacy and anonymity instinctively.

Gay women sometimes see me as trans, especially trans-exclusionary radical feminist types, and reject me as a woman because I have never menstrated. One woman I dated has stalked me with "be honest, you are really trans, aren't you?' anger, and any attempt to explain has brought accusations of dishonesty. One very masculine gay girl where I lived during my change actually threatened to beat me up, and tried to bully me in my apartment complex. One of my protector alters responded and scared the living crap out of her, lol. She almost wet her pants, lol.

When I was first de-transitioning, gay cross-dressers sometimes attacked me as a liar, telling me I was 'no better than them', I was just a cross-dresser with a delusional lie.

When I first went to a real life trans support group, I was immediately accosted by a pre-op transwoman for being 'elitist' and she waved a diagram in my face that depicted some sort of trans-heirarchy pyramid which showed non-passing pre-op MtFs at the bottom and XX intersex women at the top. I had never heard of such an arrangement, nor did I ever subscribe to any such notion, and I still do not. She made it impossible for me to be involved with the LGBT in that city, as she went to all the meetings and ran me down constantly to anybody that would listen. Because I am very feminine, the trans girls that are not interested in binary life were receptive to her hate speech, and they shunned me and made fun of me, too.

When I was doing trans support online, I faced a lot of the same hate from some girls, and when my DID became apparent, I was accused of being a fake and a liar, and banned from two different sites.

When my female relatives were told of my situation, they all gathered around and immediately accepted me as a woman and began socializing with me appropriately. We shopped and shared dressing rooms even while I was pre-op, they never flinched. My male relatives never even responded to my texts or calls, they all ignore me now, except my sisters' sons. They get it and are very cool.

Once I started wearing female clothing, I began to pass everywhere, and I stopped trying to participate in real life LGBT things, since I never got any real help from them, and cis people saw me as a normal woman.

I still find it ironic that those that should have been supportive, hated me, and those that would hate if they knew my past, accepted me universally. It was only male family and LGBT that hurt me, really...

But that is all a long time ago now. I am me, and in one piece, and all is well that ends well, ya know?

Thank you for your compassionate interest and support. I will answer any of your questions best that I am able. Don't be shy, I trust you.

MissyG



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Tessa James

Thank you Miss G for that detailed personal disclosure.  I worked in obstetrics for many years and the situation you described at your birth sadly continues to this day.  Disorders of sexual development or being intersex happens more frequently than most people know (maybe 1 in 1800 births) and has over 57 different conditions/causes.  I applaud your self direction and, of course, your identity and affiliation as self determined.  I know a few intersex folks do identify as trans and many who do not.  I hope you will feel welcome here and continue to share with us your unique perspective and experience.

What we share in common includes surviving and moving forward with our lives as self determined people.  It is good to have you here, thanks for speaking up.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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Sharon Anne McC


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My heart extends to you.

Sadly, birth-room surgeons butchered new-borns with regularity in prior times; to a lesser extent now.

Wow!  You and I share many similarities.

I grew up acting out 'feminine protesting' tantrums with a M-F transsexual identity.  By my puberty years, I was developing slightly female, but not male.  All the while, my parents also tried beating male into me - they failed.

I took that into my transition that I began at age 18.  Several years later (1982), I managed to convince doctors to do a physical exam because of my irregular external appearance.  They determined, in actuality, that I had an enlarged clitoris with fused labia obscuring a vagina.  They cut me open to examine my internal anatomy - nothing male inside.  Sure enough, they concluded that I am female inter-sexed.

While still in-patient, a counsellor summoned me for mental examination.  He tried several ways to convince me to not continue with my M-F transition.  I would not budge on my resolve to transition to female full-time.

I learned several months ago that doctors differentiate trans patients from inter-sex patients.  That resource asserted that the trans patient is mobilized to change their anatomy to fit their gender identity whereas the inter-sex patient accepts their erroneous assignment and ambiguous genitalia.  Looking back in my specific case, this explains where that counsellor was coming from.  He saw me as inter-sex and sought to keep me 'male' while I saw myself as trans and sought to keep myself female.

I lived my life in stealth, though I had not yet learned that term. 

I am active in feminist causes.  There was a time during the early 1980s when I, still presenting as 'male',  expected possible empathy by sharing my history and transition with other women.  Then I realised that would be a bad idea.  Again, I did not know the term TERF, but I perceived that notion among the very women to whom I might have outed my self.  That was a wise decision to keep mum.

I had two boyfriends during the late-1980s and one Lesbian girlfriend during the mid-1990s.  I faced that universal dilemma:  'To tell or not to tell', that is the question.  Lucky for me, nothing went far enough for me to get to that question.  But it is a question that persists in my life and perhaps has been a wall preventing me from going past a certain point in a relationship.  I do feel it is no one's business but my own - my private medical history is private.

Then again, I agree with you that none of my past existence during infancy, childhood, and puberty was my conscious decision, but rather what adults imposed against my will and nature.  I survived going from female to male to female.  If a partner can't accept me, then that is on them, not me.

I have no family happy ending.  My parents opposed my transition, my sister wants nothing to do with me, no relatives in my extended family want me in their lives.  I learned to make my own family of sisters and brothers.

Thank you for sharing your life story.

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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flytrap

My heart goes out to you for the horrible injustice the doctors did to you as an infant, MissGendered. I am also the female alter of my DID System and was molested by Mom and raped by my cousin.  And I am proud of you for being a survivor.

Quote from: MissGendered on January 12, 2017, 06:27:10 PM
all I had to do was let my littles walk and talk for me, and 'passing' was a breeze.

This is a very small point from your thread but I thought it might be affirming to you to know this is exactly how it has always been for me. Primary's gender therapist was sure he was transsexual. She tried to slow me down but I had no problems with people being able to tell I was a girl the first time I stepped out the door after I realized I was a separate person. It took a while to learn how to make Primary's voice higher. But I didn't need hormones or have to learn how to be a girl because I already knew how from being primary when we were small and all the years I spent watching how other girls acted.

The only thing that ever mattered to me (my perspective as the girl alter, not the general feeling of the System or any of my other alters) was that people saw me as a girl. It goes back to my when my best girlfriend started treating me like a boy when I hit my teens. Nobody has ever questioned me, not from the first day I stepped outside the house 6 months after I realized I was a separate person. But I spent the first ten thousand hours of my new life putting myself in every situation I could think of to fail trying to convince myself they weren't all just being polite.

Therapy and living eventually helped me make my peace with who I am. But like I replied to your post "Re: Image recognition and being blown out of stealth online" at https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,216179.msg1937198.html#msg1937198, it works OK because I only want a little world. If I was primary alter it would be a really big problem.

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Tessa James

Wow, damned harsh experiences, soo much pain!  I know we can do better than that!

If only big virtual hugs could help, well, have all you want they are freely given.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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