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Started by Shana A, November 15, 2007, 07:20:54 PM

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Quote from: Seshatneferw on December 05, 2007, 08:09:35 AM
Well, yes. First homosexuals challenge some deeply ingrained assumptions about gender-appropriate behaviour, and eventually get recognised (if not accepted by everyone). Next transsexuals challenge a different but at least as strong set of assumptions about gender, and eventually people acknowledge that they exist too. Then androgynes come along and challenge a whole new set of assumptions about gender. Who's next? ;)

  Nfr

Great Googly Moogly!  I've been wondering about that exact thing.
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barbie

Quote from: Seshatneferw on December 05, 2007, 08:09:35 AM
Well, yes. First homosexuals challenge some deeply ingrained assumptions about gender-appropriate behaviour, and eventually get recognised (if not accepted by everyone). Next transsexuals challenge a different but at least as strong set of assumptions about gender, and eventually people acknowledge that they exist too. Then androgynes come along and challenge a whole new set of assumptions about gender. Who's next?  ;)

  Nfr


How about Metrosexual or Lesbosexual?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosexual
http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/feature/2004/01/05/metrosexual_ii/

Barbie~~

Just do it.
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Pica Pica

Isn't metrosexual just a term for vain men?
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Laurry

I thought it was for straight men who wanted to be gay because it was "cool", but wouldn't put out
Ya put your right foot in.  You put your right foot out.  You put your right foot in and you shake it all about.  You do the Andro-gyney and you turn yourself around.  That's what it's all about.
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Simon

Asexuals have been making a stand...
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Lukas-H

Quote from: Pica Pica on December 05, 2007, 04:12:48 PM
Isn't metrosexual just a term for vain men?

Well some people would say that but to me it just seems like men who don't mind "primping" up and putting a lot more effort into their clothing choices than most men would.

And in some cases, vain indeed. :D

Posted on: December 07, 2007, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: Simon on December 06, 2007, 02:35:26 AM
Asexuals have been making a stand...

True, but it's going to be hard for them as well to be recognized and respected. Most people are alright with you as long as you have SOME sort of attraction (even though non heterosexuals still get lots of flak :(). But not having any sort of sexual attraction at all is something most people can't fathom because of the fact that our society is so sexual.
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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barbie

Just do it.
  • skype:barbie?call
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Simon

Thirded. :-\

I think that, socially, asexuals are seen as frigid or aloof.

I'm not asexual but I can really appreciate asexuality.  I have posters all over my bedroom and only one can be considered in any way erotic - and that's not why I have it.

I guess most men can use the rule, "If it's female, it's meant to be erotic so judge it that way.  If it's not, it's not."  That means they never have to think about asexuality in its own right.  As an androgyne, I think differently, so I've had to teach myself about it.
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Jaimey

Educate me, please.  Can someone give me an exact definition of asexuality?  (If it's in the wiki, sorry...I'm rather indolent :-\)

The reason I'm asking is because I think we've discussed on here before how some of us are not attracted to someone because of their body, but because of their mind.  Is that asexuality?  Or does asexuality also include a lack of sexual desire? 

Forgive me for my lack of knowledge and laziness... ;)
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Simon

Asexuals are those who are simply not interested in sexual relationships with others.

I'm one of those who are attracted through some other way.  That means I have a lot in common with asexuals, but I'm not asexual.

I really wish I had a word for those who just work differently. :P  (One that doesn't sound as if I go for small furry things, women's shoes or some other paraphilia.)
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saraswatidevi

QuoteEducate me, please.  Can someone give me an exact definition of asexuality?

This is from the AVEN site:
QuoteAsexual: A person who does not experience sexual attraction.

http://www.asexuality.org/home/

Although there is a lot of variation from people who don't want any contact with others of any kind to those who experience attraction, hetero, homo, bi or whatever orientation without any actual sexual acting out with those others. I know it is hard to believe but there are asexual dating services, etc.
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Pica Pica

I have the urge to start a straight, chubby, ginger androgyne dating service. Sex optional, and only if the other side starts the ball rolling.
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saraswatidevi

QuoteI have the urge to start a straight, chubby, ginger androgyne dating service.

I hope all three of you are very happy together!
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Jaimey

If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Lukas-H

Quote from: Pica Pica on December 14, 2007, 05:01:42 AM
I have the urge to start a straight, chubby, ginger androgyne dating service. Sex optional, and only if the other side starts the ball rolling.

Gingers are awesome! Sometimes I wish I was a ginger :( Just a brunette here, lol.

You should start said dating service though >:D
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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