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Started by SailorMars1994, March 27, 2017, 12:46:07 PM

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SailorMars1994

As I have been wrestling with my gender idnenity a lot i have made a parrallel in one regard. The more I allow myself to not only live as a woman, but to be feminine too it has opened up new doors. Being female is indeed liberating, amazing and my only regret with being female is that I wasnt born female. Yes I would love to have been socialized as a girl and been called Ashley my whole life. Even the nitty gritty that few care about like having the XX chromosome (not that, that matters much at the end of the day) and the uterous. I wish I had that all! But yes being female, and growing at 23 as a woman I must say is so damn nice but kinda scary. The scary part in addition to having lost male previlidge and what not is I have to come face to face with all my baggage and issues. It has motiveted me to be a better me. And that, after over 2 decade of brushing my issues off is scary. The only thing easier about being male was that I could suppress everything much more as well, nothing really mattered. But I love being female

Now, my anaolgy. The thing is I do not really see myself as two different people per say, and i dont feel like another person. But, my shame, guilt and doubt has put me back in the man box before and I hated it. It was  aforce of such shame and denial that it nearly killed me. It reminds me a sad story. Back in 1999 in Winnipeg Manitoba, there was a husband and wife. The father wasnt a good guy and was super selfish whereas the wife was becoming stonger to beleive in herself and move on. She eventrually was going to go through a divorce and leave that zero. Issue was, he was selfish and was the ''If I cant have you no one can have you''. So one day he shot her and then stabbed himself in the chest to death. He was 33 and she was 29 and they left behind a 5 year old daughter. . ....... Sorry to depress you but at times the male idneity that i built feels like that selfish man, that all that doubt and shame and guilt that lead to a short and partial detransition was due to  that male idenity i build that was killing myself, Ashley. The stronger i get to move on I get better, but i was in the ropes and trying to be a male and dealing with shame indeed almsot did kill me. I guess, to those who had to detrasntion for a period of time or didnt transition for  along time did it feel tha the person your created was killing who you really are?

-Ashley
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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jentay1367

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Hey Ash....
more like oppressing, but kind of inadvertently.  Because it was easier to play the man. I looked like one, I sounded like one, I walked like one and thanks to years and years of socialization for protection purposes, acted like one. He was always there to tell me it couldn't be done or that only freaks thought this way. He was the one that was socially accepted at parties. He was the one that was always getting kudo's for being so manly and doing such manly things. So in my mind, it all must have been right. Otherwise, why would I constantly be getting such positive affirmation for his accomplishments. So for me at least, He was a construct of my own mind created as a mote to protect the castle. He was the bodyguard that kept me safe in a world that would see me hurt. He was my knight in shining armor and I love him for protecting me like the men I have always liked and respected do. Unfortunately, he had to do it with fear because back in the day, it was a dangerous world for people like us. He kept me from doing this at the wrong time for me. You needed more fortitude than I had and needed to be in a more nurturing environment.   When I told him last year that I didn't think I needed him any more, that I could stand on my own two feet now, he chivalrously stepped aside and has continuously asked how he can help.  So no...I can't hate him. He's done too much for me over the years and he was always a stand up guy. For me as well as others. Almost to a person, everyone I've told has been behind me 100 percent. They all mention how he was always there for them so although they'll miss him, since he wants me to be happy, so do they. That speaks volume to who that fake man was. I will always love that guy for always being there for me. It was my fault I didn't ask him to leave earlier, not his. He was just protecting me.  Just glad I finally got the nerve to live truthfully, for him and for me, cuz' we were both exhausted.
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SailorMars1994

I guess that makes sense. It is so empowering knowing how secure you are :), share so of that security :D!!?
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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jentay1367

L.O.L.  Secure??  I was 35 when you were born 23 years ago and didn't have the security or presence of mind even then to follow my bliss. At this point, it's all justification and rationalizations.  The fact that you're dealing with this the way you are and at your young age shows exactly what true security looks like. Not easy mind you, for anyone. But taking the bull by the horns like you are?  Now THAT is  massively impressive. But thanks for the kind words, Ash. It's very, very sweet of you!
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SailorMars1994

2 things :1 You look much younger then your age shows, thought you were younger

and 2,  thank you so much for that. Honestly I had a little tear brewing up. Me secure :)? I know that since I started transition I have improved my strength and courage, pre transition as a male I was a coward. But I have changed, thats what was scary about facing the fact of going back. I didnt want be <birth name> the coward anymore, Becoming Ashley has been the best thing ever. Thank you for your kind words girl! they meant a lot to me :')
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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Michelle_P

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on March 27, 2017, 09:17:28 PM
I know that since I started transition I have improved my strength and courage, pre transition as a male I was a coward. But I have changed, thats what was scary about facing the fact of going back. I didnt want be <birth name> the coward anymore, Becoming Ashley has been the best thing ever.

Hey, with the power to create and control fire, you SHOULD be strong and courageous!  It's the birthright you should have had.

Being Ashley has had a remarkable effect on you.  I can tell just from your posts here over time.  You are going to do great things.
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SailorMars1994

Quote from: Michelle_P on March 27, 2017, 10:05:50 PM
Hey, with the power to create and control fire, you SHOULD be strong and courageous!  It's the birthright you should have had.

Being Ashley has had a remarkable effect on you.  I can tell just from your posts here over time.  You are going to do great things.

Thank you :) <3
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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jentay1367

Michelle is right you know...go get em' kid!! The world is your oyster. Soundzzzz goofy...but it's true!
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SailorMars1994

AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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Charlie Nicki

Quote from: jentay1367 on March 27, 2017, 01:38:22 PM
Hey Ash....
more like oppressing, but kind of inadvertently.  Because it was easier to play the man. I looked like one, I sounded like one, I walked like one and thanks to years and years of socialization for protection purposes, acted like one. He was always there to tell me it couldn't be done or that only freaks thought this way. He was the one that was socially accepted at parties. He was the one that was always getting kudo's for being so manly and doing such manly things. So in my mind, it all must have been right. Otherwise, why would I constantly be getting such positive affirmation for his accomplishments. So for me at least, He was a construct of my own mind created as a mote to protect the castle. He was the bodyguard that kept me safe in a world that would see me hurt. He was my knight in shining armor and I love him for protecting me like the men I have always liked and respected do. Unfortunately, he had to do it with fear because back in the day, it was a dangerous world for people like us. He kept me from doing this at the wrong time for me. You needed more fortitude than I had and needed to be in a more nurturing environment.   When I told him last year that I didn't think I needed him any more, that I could stand on my own two feet now, he chivalrously stepped aside and has continuously asked how he can help.  So no...I can't hate him. He's done too much for me over the years and he was always a stand up guy. For me as well as others. Almost to a person, everyone I've told has been behind me 100 percent. They all mention how he was always there for them so although they'll miss him, since he wants me to be happy, so do they. That speaks volume to who that fake man was. I will always love that guy for always being there for me. It was my fault I didn't ask him to leave earlier, not his. He was just protecting me.  Just glad I finally got the nerve to live truthfully, for him and for me, cuz' we were both exhausted.

This is a great way to think about it.
Latina :) I speak Spanish, English and a bit of Portuguese.
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Rachel_Christina

After 26 years of living this lie, I struggle so hard with how I am gonna be able to pull apart this macho image that everyone sees me as.
It's even hard to get rid of the automatic reactions and response to everyday life that wher designed to hide me.
Its great to be out to myself, but now that I still haven't managed to comeout two the world, running these two personas is very hard. :/


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SailorMars1994

WHOOOOOOAAAA Christine. You have any ''attachement\\ to the macho world still :o ?

Sorry, i am just stunned. You are so feminine and beautiful. Both your profile picture and the way you write your posts and everything. To me, you ooze of femininity. I wouldnt have thought you had a fake masculine bone/persona in your body <3

Please, give me tips on how to look as feminine as you :)!!

Huggles-Ashley
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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Rachel_Christina

Haha I guessed you would think that. Lol
I am the worst the absolute worst you will find.
I told a friend at work(lesbian) about how I am, and she was so shocked, first thing she said was " but you always been so macho". Even her friend who like me never approached me because of this being too macho lol
Being brought up a farmer with a Very tough upbringing from my dad just taught me to be this way.
But thanks as looks go, It's luck HRT age and style, you have to really play with clothes and makeup n whatnot. Luck for you are even younger than me no?
I still haven't come out yet, just to my arents and a few friends, but not publicly or work.


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