Enough is enough

[rose]

Hi I have something I want to share

I noticed a lot of trans girls around me are mean ( not saying all of us are mean there A LOT of lovely girls here and everywhere ❤️)

However the deal is real !

They don't help you with transitioning things or being nice in general

I guess it's girly thing being mean to each other lol ( it's not funny tho )

But why

we are one community but still there a lot of attention and negativity

Today I just asked a trans girl in real self about her result that she Posted in the first place

I was very polite but she called me names and said go read about because she won't share it

Hmm ok you could use a different way to answer me right ?

Hmmm i think general topics about srs is not 100% accurate only testimony from real patients you can built a view about the surgeons skills

This is not the only case with other trans girl

I can't be friend with any trans girl near me they see you as competitor and not a friend

Is this my experiences only or some else experience the same

I'm not attacking anyone but I'm VERY very sad about what happens

We supposed to be one hand together not treat each other with salty attitudes

Love to all lovely girls here ❤️

[Niki Knight]

Wow, Im somewhat surprised but then again maybe not so much.

Generally CIS women can be very catty and opinionated. I feel bad that trans girls would react this way especially to another trans women. If they are like this then they are not even worth giving the time of day to.

I myself would avoid any person that treated me poorly or disrespectful. When I meet another trans girls I go out of my way to be nice and helpful. We have all battled our way to happiness the least we could do is be respectful to each other.

I some how think that some of it could be young individuals that didn't learn how to treat people right in the first place.

I think its more upbringing and a bad personal trait than just being a trans girl. I have not run into this personally, most girls I have meet are amazing.

Huggs Niki Marie

[alex82]

Lots of men are 'opinionated' and 'mean to each other', as well as seeming to be generally unpleasant and unsupportive of other people.

They just aren't called "catty" for it.

[Angélique LaCava]

Wow. I thought it was just me who saw other transgenders as competition.

[staciM]

Wow. I thought it was just me who saw other transgenders as competition.

Curious...what's your thought process of specifically seeing other Trans woman as competition?  Competition for what?

[Angélique LaCava]

Curious...what's your thought process of specifically seeing other Trans woman as competition?  Competition for what?

because A guy would go for the prettiest transgender in the bar before they go for the average one so you have to try to out pretty the others.

[TinaVane]

This is true they act as if they are in competition to beat you in getting a surgery or something. I have not branched out and tried to befriend one but I don't do fake cis straights either. Luckily the internet is around to help


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[staciM]

because A guy would go for the prettiest transgender in the bar before they go for the average one so you have to try to out pretty the others.

Ah.  Unless you're wearing a sign, or you're in a transgender only establishment, I would think your competition is just other woman, not necessarily other transgender woman.  That's just normal human behaviour being in competition for a mate. 

It seems the OP was talking about transgender girls that are just generally unfriendly and unhelpful in passing-on experience. 

Every girl I've spoken to has been extremely friendly.

[Angela Drakken]

I get pretty tired of getting the side eye from other trans girls irl. Ive literally done nothing to them, dont know them, and from the way they look at me (half ready to spit on the ground and hiss at me it looks like.) I dont WANT to know them. I dont see the point in giving people a chance or the benefit of the doubt when its not being given to me. Repsect is a two way street. Im not 'competing' with anyone. I only want to be the best version of me I can humanly be..?

[Lilly3]

In my opinion every transgender person I have met has been an incredibly nice person. (Whether I knew them as trans first or found out after a few years of friendship)
But I'm a cis woman.. So not part of the trans circle where it may be different.

I was at a transgender Christmas party once where I noticed the younger girls seeming a little bit cliquey, but still generally friendly.

As far as this forum and groups on Facebook or real life meet ups, I generally see many trans people helping each other.
I imagine there is only so much people can help though.. Before talking about it starts to become emotionally draining for them.
For example if someone has been talking about there procedures repeatedly or trying to help newbies continuously eventually it probably becomes too repetitive or they just want a break from discussing gender and surgeries.

On a different note..
I think my partner might experience a little bit of pettiness and jealousy from other trans girls every now and then.

She is fairly wealthy as she was successful with the businesses she started before transition, and now still continues to run after transition.
She is able to afford all the surgeries she needs or wants, and has always looked after her body so had a great figure to start with. Which of course means some view her as coming from a place of privilege.
The media also paid attention to her transition..
So some say she should do more for the community because she is in the spotlight, others say she needs to step off because she only just transitioned. .. She is damned if she does or damned if she doesn't.
She raised $20,000 for a trans youth camp for rural kids this last year, but even so some people find ways to say she isn't doing enough in the right areas etc.

I think there are some girls who really dislike her for this.

She wants to step away from the community and achieve things as Savannah, before she comes back .. Because right now she feels like she is only getting credit for her past life and instead wants to achieve things as a woman too.

So I can see where it would be difficult for some to get along in the trans community.. Everyone still comes from different walks of life


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[Dena]

One thing Susan's Place is occasionally accused of is over moderation. It's true that the moderation is pretty strict but we don't allow some of the things I have seen take place on other sites to occur here. Anybody who violates the rules is given a chance to reform. If they don't reform, we have sufficed tools at our disposal to make them conform or eliminate them from the site. Should you receive that type of treatment here, hit the report to moderator button to the right of the post at issue. If it's in a PM, use the report to administrator button and send it to Cindy or Susan. Your privacy will be protected and only the forum moderators and administrators will know you made the report.

As for the reason why they do it, for some it's because they can. The people here are serious about addressing their issues and most have had a rough time in life. When you have to deal with difficult issues, you learn the advantage of friends and having favors owed you. If people are out only for themselves, they don't care who they harm so their behavior isn't good.

You are best to avoid that type of person on web sites and in life. If the site has major problems and will not address them, it would be best to avoid those sites. Life is to short to deal with people who don't appreciate your feelings.

[Wild Flower]

I never dealt with this before, but I only engage with transgender women online. (counting Second Life back when it had a really active transgender community).

I dealt with this with gay guys though lol *a past life of mine*, it's like the 'side eye' look... nothing too extreme though. I don't really deal with the male gay community anymore though.

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I got a little tizzy today, I said, oh Jessica Simpson in boot are made for walking isn't in my league (acting like a straight guy here)... and the male friend said... "You think Christina Aguilera is in your league, maybe now... maybe in a hundred years...." That's because I said a prior comment about her beauty really pretty in 2003.


***I just said, "Well Britney Spears in 2007 is in my league". And then he responded, "When she was bald? and crazy"....

I could careless all honestly... but that was a slammer to me about the Xtina comment. I just agreed with him, saying she has a great voice, and that's why.

[Angélique LaCava]

Ah.  Unless you're wearing a sign, or you're in a transgender only establishment, I would think your competition is just other woman, not necessarily other transgender woman.  That's just normal human behaviour being in competition for a mate. 

It seems the OP was talking about transgender girls that are just generally unfriendly and unhelpful in passing-on experience. 

Every girl I've spoken to has been extremely friendly.

I was just using that saved an example. I see any transgender as competition when it comes to looks because guys would go out with a transgender who is hot before they go out with one that's average.

[Anothergirlsparadise]

because A guy would go for the prettiest transgender in the bar before they go for the average one so you have to try to out pretty the others.

Good luck with the guys that date you just for your looks.

[Ypsf09]

Geez,

Life must be so full of insecurities when one is concerned with other trans women/cis woman prettier than them specially when it comes to dating men.

I am myself obsessed with looks and getting every possible surgery to prefect every aspect of my physical being. But when I see a prettier/pretty transwoman, I become so joyous and think of her as my inspiration/role model.

[Wild Flower]

Geez,

Life must be so full of insecurities when one is concerned with other trans women/cis woman prettier than them specially when it comes to dating men.

I am myself obsessed with looks and getting every possible surgery to prefect every aspect of my physical being. But when I see a prettier/pretty transwoman, I become so joyous and think of her as my inspiration/role model.

It depends on the circumstances for me.

But this is inspiring

[Angélique LaCava]

It depends on the circumstances for me.

But this is inspiring

i don't this the red haired one looks pretty tbh. The blonde on the other hand is pretty.

[Wild Flower]

i don't this the red haired one looks pretty tbh. The blonde on the other hand is pretty.

That's the same person, but I think the red hair version is her with more plastic surgeries because her ultimately goal was to look like Jessica Rabbit. That's just a wild guess though.

Her name is Cassandra Cass... there's actually more blonde pictures of her on google than red by her name.

http://people.com/bodies/transgender-woman-spends-200k-on-plastic-surgery-to-look-like-jessica-rabbit/

On the other hand, her looking like Jessica Rabbit could had been a publicity stunt because that's the only reason why I know of her... lol

Here she is as wonder woman.



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I'm just saying she made an ugly guy into an "attractive in a sexual way" woman. Which says a lot.

[JosieXOXO]

Hi I have something I want to share

I noticed a lot of trans girls around me are mean ( not saying all of us are mean there A LOT of lovely girls here and everywhere ❤️)

However the deal is real !

They don't help you with transitioning things or being nice in general

I guess it's girly thing being mean to each other lol ( it's not funny tho )

But why

we are one community but still there a lot of attention and negativity

Today I just asked a trans girl in real self about her result that she Posted in the first place

I was very polite but she called me names and said go read about because she won't share it

Hmm ok you could use a different way to answer me right ?

Hmmm i think general topics about srs is not 100% accurate only testimony from real patients you can built a view about the surgeons skills

This is not the only case with other trans girl

I can't be friend with any trans girl near me they see you as competitor and not a friend

Is this my experiences only or some else experience the same

I'm not attacking anyone but I'm VERY very sad about what happens

We supposed to be one hand together not treat each other with salty attitudes

Love to all lovely girls here ❤️

I think some of it is some people are just ->-bleeped-<-ty people.  No matter what gender or orientation.  The other side of it is that a lot of Trans girls are going through some rough stuff.  Transition and just accepting what you are and finding your place in the dating scene is hard enough.  And then there's all the rejection, social issues, prejudice, the list goes on and on.

I consider my self lucky for a lot of reasons, and I handle these things very differently then most people do, but I also understand how other girls might have had it a lot tougher, and low self esteem is a bitch. 

And yeah I'm sure a lot of trans girls will be catty with each other just like men can be sometimes in a different way.  But not all girls are like that, those are just the ones we notice more.

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[Angélique LaCava]

That's the same person, but I think the red hair version is her with more plastic surgeries because her ultimately goal was to look like Jessica Rabbit. That's just a wild guess though.

Her name is Cassandra Cass... there's actually more blonde pictures of her on google than red by her name.

http://people.com/bodies/transgender-woman-spends-200k-on-plastic-surgery-to-look-like-jessica-rabbit/

i wouldnt look at plastic surgery transgenders as inspiration because their results are unrealistic. The male pic of her would never have been able to pass even with hormones if she hadn't got those surgeries. It's fake beauty and if a transgender had to change that much about their face then they didn't look so hot before.