Quote from: kwala on April 05, 2018, 07:07:05 PM
If you are a "born countertenor" and already sing in a female range then what are you looking for with this surgery? To shift more of your upper range into full voice? To simply change the timbre?
I didn't have surgery at Yeson but had a similar procedure done in the states. Prior to surgery I sang both tenor and countertenor. In my case, the surgeon created a web that was too large and has created a host of problems for me in the aftermath, including losing the ability to sing at all. Before surgery, I had a soprano C6 and could even break into the flagelot register on a good day. Now, I can basically hum super softly in a weak tenor range and that's it.
Now, I have seen Dr. Kim and I believe he is a much better surgeon with better technique and stronger results than my first surgeon. That being said, if you are doing this for singing purposes I would say stop and really think about it. Despite high success rates, there are still risks and take it from someone who has missed singing every single day for the past 3 years: you don't want to lose the ability to sing.
kwala, thank you for your answers, well look you have to take into account two things, that when I speak of countertenor I speak of the true countertenor voice, not of the current meaning that there are where the falsetists are located, in fact the countertenor voice (contralto ) is the most acute voice of male voices, and the most serious of the female voices that can occur naturally in both sexes and is very scarce, in fact I am a choir singer, I have sung with women contraltos, you know a A voice that is authentically contralto in a woman is serious, dark, dense and pasty. unlike the soprano, as this voice has a greater number of bass harmonics or its chest record component is larger, while the natural disposition of the soprano are much greater component in head register + record of whistle, from there and the color and clear and sharp resonance that characterizes the voice of soprano, now keep in mind that it was decided that to call the adult man who had the same extension of voice that female contralto, call it with the old name (countertenor) because the timbre is different from the voice of a woman because for the woman because of her texture, resonance cavities and more delicate and soft tissues the timbre will sound different at a certain point. although in extension it has the same possibilities of frequency, for which the voice of a countertenor will never be feminine, unless it uses the falsetto, where it tries to change the timbre that usually comes determined so much by the harmonics, I mean all its registers or extension of voice, as per the resonance captions.
therefore my voice sounds sharp and at the same time pasty, but not feminine, and I really do not look for that, but what I'm looking for is more flexibility when it comes to singing, that is, increasing flexibility in the acute and high-pitched register.
now I bring something, many girls here have wondered that because they have no volume after their surgery, I think and I'm sure it's because they are so worried about sounding like girls who think it sounds like a whistle talking is the female standard, but nor the sopranos speak in a head voice, I have tried a lot with girls who sing and usually speak in their chest voice (spoken voice) without trying to use the head voice, because they must understand that the voice record that gives them power , body, volume, power is the voice of the chest, I do not mean that the head voice is weak, it is just that you must also learn to resonate in that register, and then create a mixture of both, and your voice will sound natural in those spoken voice notes, because if you try to sing or speak in notes that correspond to the average record with only a head voice, they will sound weak, lacking in volume, the voice will be off and more when there is a noisy environment.
I know because in the chorus I have known sopranos that had this problem, they did not know how to sound well in their head voice, and they did not use their chest voice either, so they could not have the mix, and this made their voice weak in certain notes.
kwala, now I think there is a girl who before the surgery with dr kim increased almost an octave in her head record, and also reached record of whistle, she sings, of course I think it is because many girls do not practice vocal technique Sometimes they do not see the changes as much as they would like, because small strings will always produce an area for head registration.
I appreciate your appreciation and your comment, I wanted to hear the song of that girl: Anjaq, also that of: Dana88, and others who have done the surgery and are dedicated to singing. but the audios that they have published are not available
Regarding Dana I saw this video:
but I do not know if she is the one who sings, because I see another person but the video was uploaded by her, and as I understand it, she dedicates herself to singing.
As I said before, one thing is the countertenors, another thing the sopranistas that are only 4 in the world, and another thing the falsetists who often call them countertenors or sometimes sopranistas
As I said before my trip is this Saturday in Korea, I practice speech level singing, but I want to get more agile as far as I can, the time is not for my problem, it can always be used musically.
Later on I'll share audios making scales
unfortunately no people have gone to Korea answering, I wanted to know also what foods can be eaten there before and after the surgery, if you can eat solid food?
Respect, to the song in my communication with yesonvc say that their procedure does not remove the ability of singing, that only return in about 1 year, if you work the technique of singing, so ask about the people who had this procedure, because According to I read in an old post there are several girls who sing, after the surgery
