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Started by tinyshain, April 14, 2017, 03:34:11 PM

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tinyshain

Yesterday at work, a 12 year old kid came in and he was about my height (4'11"-5'). And I looked at him from far away, and he just looked so tiny, so much like a kid -- and I thought, is that how small I look?

I feel like being trans already makes me feel like I'm an anomaly. And then, being super short makes me feel even more so. I don't want the first thing people notice about me to be my height. I feel like my height makes me unattractive and odd looking.

I keep hoping that I'll grow taller, somehow, despite the fact I'm too old to do so (I'm 22). But it's painful for me to think I'll be stuck like this for the rest of my life. Maybe I'll feel better about it when I'm farther along on T, but right now, my height is a huge fixation of mine. I feel like I'll just look like this odd mini-adult forever.

It doesn't help that I don't have much luck in the romance department. I'm 95% sure that putting my height in my profile puts people off. And if I ever were to meet someone in person, they'd see my height and be turned off.
I'm also worried that adults won't take me seriously as I get older. When I'm interviewing for jobs and things like that, I'm worried I'll walk into the room and they'll internally be laughing at me, or judging me. I hate being in crowds and around a bunch of people because I'm always the shortest one.

My mom says to me, "Look at your brother! He's so short and he struggles with it all the time." Great. My brother is 3-4" taller than me. So how is saying that supposed to make me feel better?

People used to say to me, "Well, your height is fine, because you're a girl. But it sucks for your brother, being so short." -_-

My brother is also cis and very attractive, can grow a great beard, and has a functional, cis dick. Everyone, even my younger sister, is taller than me.

Meanwhile, right now I'm this tiny, androgynous human who has a puberty stache and feminine curves.
God, I know I sound like a whiny jerk. I know there are guys here around my height. But this is something that is so hard for me to get over. It makes me feel sometimes like I want to die, which is an overreaction, but still.

Thing is — people like me. I'm respected at my job right now. Sure, I get comments about my height, but I've gotten that my entire life. I was born 3 months premature and I weighed only 2 pounds. I got puberty blockers and growth hormone therapy when I was younger, but apparently it didn't really help. I've always been the smallest.

Yet I still can't shake this. I don't want to struggle with accepting my height for my whole life, but it's like I go through phases of being ok with it, and then something like what happened at work happens, and it causes me to spiral down into self-loathing. I'm worried everyone is nice to me just because they pity me and I'll be alone my entire life. I worry I look ridiculous at social events because I'm child-sized.

I don't want to be seen as "cute." I want to be seen as attractive and strong. I feel like even being another couple inches taller would make a huge difference. But it's not going to happen.

I've talked to therapists about this. One therapist said she understood, because she was very tall for a woman. Another therapist told me she never noticed my height. Everyone tells me I can't change it so I have to just accept it.
But being short coupled with gender dysphoria suuuucks so hard. I feel like I have to overcompensate by being super fit and having an incredible personality, which has led me to feel exhausted with social interactions and having disordered eating and exercise patterns.

I'm the tiniest of tiny, and I feel like I'll be stuck hating my height and looking ridiculous forever. I'm a whiny jerk but I can't stop fixating on being so short.

Advice?
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DawnOday

I'm the exact opposite. I am transitioning to female but I am 6'3" and feel so out of place. I am usually the tallest in the room male or female. Beyond that I have size 14 feet. You just got to play the cards dealt you. I was 6' tall at twelve. At the time it was great because I was only 120 - 130 lbs. and looked good in my sisters clothes with rolled up socks in the bra. It will all work out for you.  Actually your personality is what will attract people especially if you are not looking for the best looking person in the room. That is a goal too far. You want to pass as a guy? Learn everything about sports, cars and sex and you will have conquered the holy grail of manhood. Don't become so fearful you become an introvert as that is it's own private hell.  On the bright side. Prince was only 5'2" Angus Young from AC/DC is 5'2", Paul Simon is 5'2" Mickey Rooney was 5'2"   Think Big.  Good things come in small packages.
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J2J

Also the opposite, I am pretty much 6ft and not a fan of it and I am pretty sure it's putting me off biting the bullet and starting my transition, sure there are other things....

I very often Google "women who are 6ft" and see many tall women (mostly celebrities) and think hey... maybe...... but who knows, in a very crappy and dark place when it comes to my problems with deciding at the moment.

You're certainly not being whiny, it's just something we're stuck with.

Maybe we could trade height haha?
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Cindy

One of the toughest of life lessons is to accept the things we cannot change and find a positive in them.

We have choices, accept and deal with it, accept and don't deal with it or don't accept it and that leads to....?

So you are vertically challenged but how big a man are you?  Are you a man who hides and cowers afraid of what people think or are you a man who walks with confidence and awareness, who dominates his space with his personality, his wit, his kindness, generosity and his manliness?

What do people perceive when they meet these two men, the guy who is absorbed in his fear and sadness or the guy who has the open smile, the charm and grace of a man whose company people crave? I'm pretty sure we know the answer. One guy is popular and full of life and the other, well who wants to go there?

It is your choice to be the man you wish to be, you have no choice on your height, but you have total control over how big a man you are. Sure it will take work and you will receive knock backs but seek to be the best most aware fun and generous man you can be and you will find that life will be wonderful both for you and your many friends.
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Kylo

I've worked alongside some short cis dudes in my time, much shorter than me. They usually had beards or facial hair to offset their height and look more mature etc. and it worked. They were all professional people, I don't remember anything being said about their height in the workplace. I suppose having a certain status and earnings offsets all that as well. Men aren't typically defined by their looks but what they can do or what skills they have. Being short sucks but it isn't the end of the world. My SO is the same height as I am, he's never had anyone ragging on him for not being 6ft, nor any of the shorter guys in my family (mother's side). They just get on with doing what they want to do in life, computer programmers, games artists, writers, whatever it is they chose.

Sure it makes the dating game harder but by no means are short guys left without a shot at it. ALL the short guys I know have a significant other.

Overcompensating is usually very obvious to other people - if you're acting and trying too hard they will notice it. I don't do it. I'm awesome as it is, and I don't give a damn what people think. Yeah I'd love to be 6 ft 3 and built like a bull too but actually I don't notice most of the time. Take advantage of the fact people are less likely to feel big for pushing you around than a bigger guy and that not feeling compelled to compete with them leaves you free to get on with more productive things. Like the fun experiences you want in life, not worrying whether you measure up to the next guy.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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Daydreamer

The blog unfortunately isn't up anymore, but it was dedicated to famous short men to help perk up those who feel discouraged about their height. I'm 4'11" myself, and I know how annoying it can be.
"Stay tuned next for the sound of your own thoughts, broadcast live on the radio for all to hear." -- Cecil (Welcome to Night Vale)

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WolfNightV4X1

If it helps by a slim margin, I just looked up average heights, apparently in Vietnam, Phillipines, and Bolivia average is 5'3 and 5'4 in Cambodia, India, and Nigeria. In America at least the average is 5'9, so in other words that means those other places have a lot of shorter guys to balance out that average at lower heights, and that's a lot of different kinds nationalities or races, so there are short guys out there. I've met a lot of guys as short as and even shorter than me so it's something.

You could also try wearing vertical stripes or shoes that make you higher when out and about, I suppose. Give people some height illusion


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Jennifer RachaelAnn

Don't forget about people like Verne Troyer. He is only around 2 feet tall and is a successful actor, and very respected in Hollywood. Like age, height is only a number. If you don't let it, it won't and can't define you. The only time it is a problem is when you make it a problem.

And how many women do you know who are 6'4", 275 pounds, with a size 15 shoe?? Being tall isn't always a blessing.
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There are some who share my time. I am entertained by them.
There are precious few who contribute to my time. I cherish them."


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V M

Height is only a physical measurement, not the measure of an individual

We all have our wishes and dreams and our fears and sadness's

In my opinion, the ability to be a kind, loving and decent person with the internal strength to endure is much more important


The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Saira128

Quote from: DawnOday on April 14, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
I'm the exact opposite. I am transitioning to female but I am 6'3" and feel so out of place. I am usually the tallest in the room male or female. Beyond that I have size 14 feet. You just got to play the cards dealt you. I was 6' tall at twelve. At the time it was great because I was only 120 - 130 lbs. and looked good in my sisters clothes with rolled up socks in the bra. It will all work out for you.  Actually your personality is what will attract people especially if you are not looking for the best looking person in the room. That is a goal too far. You want to pass as a guy? Learn everything about sports, cars and sex and you will have conquered the holy grail of manhood. Don't become so fearful you become an introvert as that is it's own private hell.  On the bright side. Prince was only 5'2" Angus Young from AC/DC is 5'2", Paul Simon is 5'2" Mickey Rooney was 5'2"   Think Big.  Good things come in small packages.
Where do you buy shoes? I'm a size 14 too.
Love ,
          Saira :-*
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Saira128

Quote from: DawnOday on April 14, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
I'm the exact opposite. I am transitioning to female but I am 6'3" and feel so out of place. I am usually the tallest in the room male or female. Beyond that I have size 14 feet. You just got to play the cards dealt you. I was 6' tall at twelve. At the time it was great because I was only 120 - 130 lbs. and looked good in my sisters clothes with rolled up socks in the bra. It will all work out for you.  Actually your personality is what will attract people especially if you are not looking for the best looking person in the room. That is a goal too far. You want to pass as a guy? Learn everything about sports, cars and sex and you will have conquered the holy grail of manhood. Don't become so fearful you become an introvert as that is it's own private hell.  On the bright side. Prince was only 5'2" Angus Young from AC/DC is 5'2", Paul Simon is 5'2" Mickey Rooney was 5'2"   Think Big.  Good things come in small packages.
I am 6ft 1" btw
Love ,
          Saira :-*
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Peep

I really feel you -- my 13 y/o brother is taller than me now and i'm 25! My siblings are all tall, and i probably would have been at least 5'7" or 5'8" had i not been really ill as a child

When my brother got his growth spurt over the last year he was obsessed with getting taller than me, and my family were always joking about it and i just could not get them to stop or to understand how bad it feels to be so small -- or how it affects my personal safety going into bathrooms or walking home at night, or holding hands with my boyfriend when he's 6'1" and looks the age he is, and i look 17

i wish i had some advice for you other than that if you're going on T/already on it, it could make you look older at least, and yeah the short cis man thing sometimes makes me feel better (i'm a Lord of the Rings fan and sometimes i quite like being a hobbit)

i also got insoles for my shoes that are wedge shaped, so they add an inch or so onto my height, but tbh i never wear them because it wasn't enough of a difference and the wedge made them feel like high heels even though they looked like trainers. But you might want to have a go with those
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Dena

As a tall person (6'2"), I don't judge people by their height because because most of the time I am the tallest one in the room. I chose to judge people by other qualities like their personality and to some degree that they are not intimidated by me. I find this true of the other tall people I have encountered in life. Possibly you should consider friendships with other tall people who will like you for who you are and will not judge you by your height.
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Bimmer Guy

I'm sorry you are having to deal with this.  I know that I have felt blessed that I am close to 5'9".

I met a trans guy once.  He had been military police and now has a very high up position as a civilian for the military.  His position was well beyond his training when he was hired, but he has really succeeded.

When I first met him when he stood up to greet me, I was surprised at his very small stature.  I think it was because he was very masculine looking, full solid beard as he was sitting in the room I was walking into.  He is probably shorter than you and is about 7+ years on testosterone.
After we spent about an hour talking, when he stood up, we shook hands and he then walked away.  I didn't notice his height anymore.  He was such a confident man I no longer noticed his height.

He is very respected professionally and was when he was military police, as well.  At that time, he wasn't even in transition yet.

I believe it is who you are as a person that determines how you are seen.

I suspect you will start to feel better as you continue to masculinize.  Just hang on.  We all have "things" that we are uncomfortable with in terms of dysphoria. 
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JeanetteLW

Hi Shain,

  Just remember Shain, A tiny stature doesn't mean a tiny presence. You can loom large in the hearts and minds of others.


  Hugs,
   Jeanette
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Alicia Francesca

On the other end of the spectrum I am 6'2.It makes me sad that will never wear a pair of Christian Louboutin Daphodiles,or a Chanel or Versace dress.😟
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ghoulified g

I'm about 5'5 or 5'6 and I feel really small when I'm around my friends, they're all around 6' or taller apart from one or two, but I am kinda coming to terms with how small I am cause of musicians I admire being small too. Stuff like that can really help. For example, I like Pearl Jam a lot, and written interviews with their lead singer tend to say something about how​ short he is. He's mentioned it a lot himself as well, and if you look up pictures of the band then him and the lead guitarist are the smallest unless they've done something funky with the photo. I feel about as happy as I can be in my situation because of that, I can relate myself to it, I know I'm not alone. I like being alone but I don't like feeling alone, y'know?
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vanderpn

I don't have any advice; just here to commiserate. I'm officially 4-11 and 3/4" :P ;)
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undautri

Well I don't have any advice for anything but I do have to say that there are plenty of ladies and gentlemen out there with a thing for shorter guys, so there's really no need to despair.
  Don't feel like you have to overcompensate for anything, just remember that everyone has things they hate about themselves. Plenty of tiny cis guys out there, and they hate their height too.
  Acknowledge your height, don't hide it and don't apologize for it. You've got a compact body, no more, no less. Don't let it define you.
kindest regards possible,
Clay
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CodexUmbrae

Hii. I'm as short as you, and if it was not enough, I have a really childish face. I'm 18, and although in my school I haven't come out so everybody sees me as a girl, they always say that I look between 12-14 y/o. I'm even smaller than most of the girls in the whole school. I've gone to stores presenting as male and they have asked me where my parents are and if I'm lost or something (at least I passed, as a 12y/o boy but I passed...). So I think I can understand you.

Usually, I'm not that conscious about my height, but you see, my two younger sisters are in the same high school as I, they have the same age but one of them is taller than the other (although both of them are taller than me). The shorter one is almost my height, just a little bit taller, and when I get to see her at school, specially from far away... God, she looks so small and short and tiny and I think she looks kinda ridiculous standing next to taller people. And then I get depressed 'cause people often tell me that I look even smaller than her.

You know, I always had that complex of being short, even before knowing I'm trans. Since I was little, I always was the shorter in class, even in kindergarten. That, together with my social issues, made me grew into a really insecure and shy person, that never defends himself. Well, at least, it's been a long time since people bullied me. Instead, while I don't have a lot of friends 'cause I'm not a social person, nobody messes with me. Yeah, people usually calls me adorable an such but it's kinda ok. People know me in school because I've won several contests and I have an almost perfect grade. Even the people in the contests, the judges and such, recognized me several times.

So, as many people have said, height doesn't define you. It can be a nuisance (specially when you want to get something and it is high and it's out of reach), but well, it's something we can't change at all. And, as someone said before, you won't have to worry about competing with other guys that like to beat up other random guys to "prove" their "manliness".

I can relate with the thing that people sometimes don't take you seriously. Being short and having a baby face makes people think you're an innocent kid that can be easily fooled. I've learned to take that to my advantage. Maybe people will underestimate you, but the satisfaction of proving them wrong is big.

In my case, and taking into consideration that I'm gay, I sometimes come into terms with my height. Just like you said, I get times where I'm ok with it, and with the whole "adorable thing". "As long as I'm confortable being myself, then I shouldn't worry what other people think or say" I think. Then, there are times where I think that I will always be this small and that when I am 25 y/o I'll just look like a joke, like a child pretending to be an adult (not only because my appearance, I'm so unconfortable in social situations that I usually act weird and out-of-place, like... a lost child).

I know it sucks. Specially, by adding up dysphoria. But, think it this way: there are a lot of attractive and successful cis men that are (or were) pretty short. And the satisfaction of achieving the things you want and having a significant other that loves you because of who you are and not how you look, will be worth it.

Ok, I wrote too much. Anyway, I hope it helps at least a little. I understand how you feel.
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