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Were there dysphoria's you didn't know you had?

Started by kings joker, April 13, 2017, 10:39:07 PM

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kings joker

Since starting T I've realized I've had a lot of dysphoria about my voice and my hips and didn't realize it until T began to change them both. I guess I've had this voice and these curvy hips for so long that I didn't know they were things that I didn't like about myself until they got deeper or slimmer. Its like being born into chains and then when someone frees you, you never knew you weren't ever free to begin with.


Do you guys have parts of your body that always bothered you but you pushed to the back of your mind? Did T help you realize the dysphoria by taking the problem away?
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Alexthecat

The problem isn't gone but once I started T my hip dysphoria emerged out of the darkness. Still working on the right eating/exercise plan to get rid of the problem. Things like voice and facial hair I know its just a matter of time and there's nothing I can do to really help/hinder the process to manliness.

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Elis

Yeah the hip dysphoria became worse due to it being sorta an obvious thing. Now finally they're starting to look like they're slimming down. Plus having no facial hair yet; not even stubble; which irritatingly makes me still look young for my age.

Being nb I have the opposite occurrence were certain changes from T make me uncomfortable but it's still a good compromise.
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Kylo

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The dysphoria of body was always there, I mean that's how I knew I had a problem, but I was good at compartmentalizing it for a while and carrying on.

My voice I feel better about it than before - except I have to learn to use it again because it's still "weak" and not finished developing/lowering. I'd learned how to use my old voice but now I have to find all the tones I can and can't reach over again. Since it keeps changing and has good days and bad days, I try a few exercises with it each day and try to explore what it can do. But the fact it's not settled and probably won't be for some time is a bit irritating. It still surprises me to laugh on reflex and how much louder my laugh sounds than it ever did before. If I raise my voice at all for any reason, it seems almost twice as loud. I didn't expect that, somehow.

The hip/waist ratio thing I was always aware of and always wore things that meant I didn't have to see it. I don't think that's worse on T - it seems as if the fat is melting off my legs and appearing on my stomach so I'm expecting it'll shift from there too. I don't think it's too noticeable as a skeletal thing since I'm pretty well developed in the back and shoulders. The appearance comes from the ratio between the hip size and the rest of the body so I guess it's less obvious than it was when I was a kid - before I took up weights and swimming. I just took up swimming again after a long absence, and that's always great for the upper body. Just yesterday one of my friends described my build as "brick ****house" so I guess whatever my bones are like down there doesn't really come first to mind over the V-shape of the upper body. It may mean I end up with a top heavy set figure, as opposed to a lithe one (I've never been too lithe I suppose) but as long as it's muscle and not flab, all's good. 

But the facial hair thing - I wasn't especially bothered about it before T - now I am anticipating it, and some of it's started to appear but I know that's a long process. I've had a complete/unexpected U turn on my view of facial hair and its relation to masculinity would like to hope I'll get a good distribution of it. I actually feel somewhat naked without it which is a weird thought for someone who's never had it to begin with. I'm not sure if the T is partly responsible for this or what, but I definitely feel as though part of me is missing because it's not all there yet, and feels like it should be there. It doesn't seem like a fully conscious desire, like I didn't get up yesterday and think "damn, where's my beard?" but more like I absently rub my face from time to time and expect a full roughness that's not quite there yet. It's sort of there, because the hairs are getting coarser, and the skin is a little coarser, too. If the body is changing then I suppose things in my mind are also changing, whether I want them to or not. Luckily they are changing in a way that fits what's happening to me.     

On the whole, what T is doing to my body is all very cool to observe; I feel less dysphoric about most things and more motivated to fix the ones that bother me still. It feels like there will be an end in sight to hating or ignoring my own flesh, which is a relief I'd forgotten I badly needed. 
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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FTMax

My dysphoria seemed to shift based on where I was in my transition at the time. As soon as I was passing consistently (1-2 months on T), I obsessed over my chest. After top surgery, I started experiencing bottom dysphoria which was new for me. In the in between period while waiting for surgery to be scheduled I hated my hips and changed my entire diet/started to exercise in order to help speed that along. Now that I'm done, no dysphoria. I do get a little down at times when I'm reminded that this wasn't always how things were, but it's light years better than wanting to die everyday.
T: 12/5/2014 | Top: 4/21/2015 | Hysto: 2/6/2016 | Meta: 3/21/2017

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Elis

Quote from: FTMax on April 14, 2017, 10:15:28 AM
My dysphoria seemed to shift based on where I was in my transition at the time. As soon as I was passing consistently (1-2 months on T), I obsessed over my chest. After top surgery, I started experiencing bottom dysphoria which was new for me. In the in between period while waiting for surgery to be scheduled I hated my hips and changed my entire diet/started to exercise in order to help speed that along. Now that I'm done, no dysphoria. I do get a little down at times when I'm reminded that this wasn't always how things were, but it's light years better than wanting to die everyday.

Don't want to derail the post but just curious. Have you considered that the dysphoria may come back as you'd feel meta wasn't enough as it doesn't look the same as what most cis guys have? It's one of the things that makes me not consider meta an option.
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FTMax

Quote from: Elis on April 14, 2017, 10:20:43 AM
Quote from: FTMax on April 14, 2017, 10:15:28 AM
My dysphoria seemed to shift based on where I was in my transition at the time. As soon as I was passing consistently (1-2 months on T), I obsessed over my chest. After top surgery, I started experiencing bottom dysphoria which was new for me. In the in between period while waiting for surgery to be scheduled I hated my hips and changed my entire diet/started to exercise in order to help speed that along. Now that I'm done, no dysphoria. I do get a little down at times when I'm reminded that this wasn't always how things were, but it's light years better than wanting to die everyday.

Don't want to derail the post but just curious. Have you considered that the dysphoria may come back as you'd feel meta wasn't enough as it doesn't look the same as what most cis guys have? It's one of the things that makes me not consider meta an option.

Nah, mine looks pretty normal in terms of what a cis dude's flaccid junk looks like and ultimately functions the same on a smaller scale. I'm super happy with it. If penetrative sex were important to me, I probably would've gone for phalloplasty but I think honestly that would've been more dysphoria inducing for me knowing that I wouldn't be able to get a natural erection.
T: 12/5/2014 | Top: 4/21/2015 | Hysto: 2/6/2016 | Meta: 3/21/2017

I don't come here anymore, so if you need to get in touch send an email: maxdoeswork AT protonmail.com
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lil_red

I always hated my voice and hair and didn't understand why. Now I know it was disphoria.  I love my deep voice and short hair now. 

Never had any hip disphoria that I was aware of until I decided I wanted to transition.

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Elis

Quote from: FTMax on April 14, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Don't want to derail the post but just curious. Have you considered that the dysphoria may come back as you'd feel meta wasn't enough as it doesn't look the same as what most cis guys have? It's one of the things that makes me not consider meta an option.


Nah, mine looks pretty normal in terms of what a cis dude's flaccid junk looks like and ultimately functions the same on a smaller scale. I'm super happy with it. If penetrative sex were important to me, I probably would've gone for phalloplasty but I think honestly that would've been more dysphoria inducing for me knowing that I wouldn't be able to get a natural erection.

Ah right; good to hear :). Hadn't thought that not having a natural erection may cause dysphoria; something yo consider if I do ever get bottom surgery.
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Kylo

Yeah, one of the things the psychotherapist mentioned was the shifting goalposts. What you feel before transition may change during, and possibly after too... new goals might appear quite suddenly and not attaining them bring unexpected new dysphoria. That's not something you can really prepare for, except to be aware that it might happen.

I'm not used to finding new things to feel lousy about - very little changes for me in terms of how I feel about myself most of the time so it's been a bit weird to suddenly desire a beard or whatever. I wonder if there will be several other things that will come along as I progress, I suppose it's likely, and the health professionals I deal with seem to hint at it too.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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