Senator calls for Real ID rebellion

[katia]

Senator calls for Real ID rebellion

http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_7490237?source=most_viewed
By RICHARD FELLINGER
Evening Sun Harrisburg Bureau
11/19/2007

'A midstate senator wants Pennsylvania to join a list of states rebelling against a federal law calling for new identification cards that have been likened to a national driver's license.'

[Attis]

I'm glad to hear it, I think some folks are finally getting more couragous on this, and other subjects related to our current tyranny. Who knows, I think if you consider this and what's going on with Ron Paul, maybe people are finally waking up to this evil in our midst. One can hope, yes?

[Sheila]

I'm kind of hoping that we will have a whole new administration in office next year. I think that will cool the heels of some of the people pushing for the real ID act. I have read the act and I really think that if you are doing nothing wrong then you won't have to worry. I know we give up more of our privacy, but in a sense we have all ready done that with the computer age and credit.
Sheila

[Attis]

That's why I'm hoping for Ron Paul. We need a strict constitutionalist to put the smackdown of anti-liberty neo-cons and neo-liberals. And the federal reserve and IRS being defunct doesn't hurt either.  >

[Laura Elizabeth Jones]

I would like to see Ron Paul in office too, but I do not see it happening. Actually, as gloomy as this sounds I do not even see the 08 elections occurring. It would not surprise me if another terrorist attack were to happen and then POOF!! here comes martial law and the complete suspension of the U.S. constitution. Then the springing up of hundreds of concentration camps to lock away any dissenters. Call me crazy, but I see this as a very real possibility.

[Attis]

Zogby's representatives have stated that Ron Paul pretty much has the nomination, which they stated on Foxnews. Which means Zogby knows something the RNC doesn't, and probably some vital statistical data that they've been ignoring (the grass roots support swell that Ron Paul has gotten for little or no promotion on his part like the money bombs as an example). So, I do expect Smirking Chimp to pull another 9/11 to retain his position (one of the military bills this year has recategorized martial law prereqs to any natural or unnatural disaster, plus any so-called terrorist attack).

[Laura Elizabeth Jones]

Yeah, but the polls have been wrong before. A lot of them predicted Kerry as the winner just before the 04 election and we all know how that turned out.

[lisagurl]

We need a strict constitutionalist to put the smackdown of anti-liberty neo-cons and neo-liberals.

The Constitution was written by people who owned slaves and would not let women vote.

[ChildOfTheLight]

We need a strict constitutionalist to put the smackdown of anti-liberty neo-cons and neo-liberals.

The Constitution was written by people who owned slaves and would not let women vote.

And they were still far ahead of their time.  Would you ignore the advances made in physics by Newton because he spent most of his life studying alchemy and religious mysticism?  Are the principles he discovered irrelevant?

Also, the temporary protections for the slave trade were written in because the South demanded it, and unifying the former colonies was the most important thing at the time.  Notice how they also wrote in a provision for amending the Constitution -- and now no one owns slaves and women can vote.

The important principle is: rule of law.  When government is not conducted by objective law, but by whatever those in office believe they can get away with, tyranny is not far away.  If you think the federal government should have more power, amend the Constitution to grant them more power.  Otherwise -- they do not have it!

[lisagurl]

If it were not for New York and Mass. we would not have a Bill of Rights. They refused to ratify the Constitution and got it added.

If you think the federal government should have more power, amend the Constitution to grant them more power.  Otherwise -- they do not have it!

I believe Bush has done too much there. Congress let him do it. The only amendments added in the past have given us more freedom, not less. We have evolved into a federal republic not a democracy. For democracies have always benefited the well off not the common worker. We have many Marxist social ideas in our government which has stopped revolutions from over turning the Government.

[Attis]

Lisa, such 'reforms' are bread and circuses. That's why things like RealID got past the public eye with scarcely a whimper or a whine. When you fatten a populous up on their own 'flesh' they become easy to herd to your whims.