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Started by vicki_sixx, April 09, 2017, 05:39:05 AM

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vicki_sixx

I'm at the start of my transition - been on low-dosage HRT for a month - and am feeing the fear of the reality of the situation and wanting to run and hide in the safety of staying as a guy. Apart from the usual fears of 'am I trans enough to really be doing this?' is the knowledge that it will require tens of thousands of pounds of surgery that I can't afford as well the fact I'll have to go through that ugly duckling phase where you're not femme enough to pass, as well as the knowledge that if I don't get all that costy surgery I'll forever stand out and get clocked, that it's against nature to alter your body chemistry, that I don't want to be dependent on taking medication for the rest of my life.

So how do those of you who've transitioned feel these fears yet push on anyway? If I was feeling crippling GD then it would make it easier for me to grit my teeth and get on with it but as my GD isn't that overwhelming, it would be easier to stay as I am and live with the longing to be like the women I see everywhere, feeling my life is incomplete, and hoping the GD doesn't worsen as I get older.
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SarahGemini

Great question Vicki. 

I can obviously only speak for myself but in my case it was simply reaching that place where the fear of the future was not as bad as staying stuck where I was.   I was so scared of transitioning. The costs both personally as well as financially. The paralyzingly fear of not being able to leave be any kind of normal life after and during transition. All of these kept me stuck for a good year even after I started some hrt.  In my case I think ventually just knew I had to try and move forward.  Once I reached that point it felt a bit like a switch and then I just doc see every day on one or two things that felt good or right and allowed them to talk over or drown out the fears and negative.  This was also coincident with finding a much better therapist who was less clinical and more or a listener and helper to keep me grounded and push through my significant anxiety.

From accost perspective have you looked into what steps may have any coverage in your area.  I know little about this but you said pounds so assumed perhaps the U.K.   Don't they have some national health coverage to help with some aspects?

Sending you much love on your journey.  We are all unique and all different.  I hope you can find happiness in whatever form this might be.  Just be honest and listen to yourself. You are the only you

Sarah
Began transition in 2005
HRT 2006
FFS Dr O 2007
GRS I + II Dr Meltzer 2008
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JoanneB

Back in my early 20's I twice "experimented" with transitioning. Both times utter fails, primarily brought on by my total lack of self confidence and zero faith that this 6ft tall, big everything, deep voiced and already balding can make in a world filled with 5'5" tall women. It took another 20 some years for me to tempt fate for a third time. (BTW-the GD hardly ever lessens in the long run) Still 6ft tall, still big everything, and a lot  more hair thanks to the much needed wig. All I felt was the sheer joy of being out in the real world as the real me. If I got clocked, so what. As long as there wasn't finger pointing, laughing or worse I didn't care. I was finally living and being the real me.

To get there took a lot of working on myself from the inside. Being trans you tend have a ton of emotional baggage and not so healthy ways of thinking about yourself and acting. All fueled by your two oldest friends, Shame & Guilt. HRT was my go-to first step knowing already how well my on/off  low dose helped me over the decades. Once that fog in my brain began to clear the hard work became easier to believe in.

It took me several months before I reached a point where I could back and say "I am far better today then I was before I started this insanity". It was a small difference but for the better. I still had many a tear filled night. I still had plenty of WTF am I doing ??? meltdowns. Yet, there was no way I could say this path was not making me a better person.
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Maybebaby56

Hi Vicki,

In my case, I was so miserable and so tired of spending a lifetime dreaming about being female that the fear of transition eventually became less of an obstacle. I guess one could liken it to sitting in a dentist's office, waiting to get a root canal done.  You know it has to get done, but you dread what's coming.

That said, I was convinced I could never find the courage to transition. I had crossdressed for years, on and off, always loving the illusion, then always hating myself for engaging in that sort of thing.  Dressing gave me temporary pleasure, but it didn't fix anything.  If anything, it made things worse. I was so ashamed of who I was. So for years, it went on like that.  I always vowed, "I can beat this thing." If I were just strong enough I could will it away.  I knew I wasn't a ->-bleeped-<-, but I didn't accept that I was transsexual, because to me that seemed like just a different kind of screwed up.

All the self-loathing made me an unhappy, closed-off person.  I drank a lot. My marriage fell apart, and eventually we separated.  After a few months of living alone, I met this gorgeous lady and we started dating.  Eventually we ended up in bed together.  There she was, smoking hot bod, wet and ready - and I couldn't perform. I just luxuriated in the image of her beautiful pussy and her wonderful curves, and I wanted that so much.  I did not want to be a man. I just couldn't do it anymore. That was the moment of truth for me, when I finally started to accept I was probably transgender.

What I ended up doing is, first of all, going to see a gender therapist to get objective, professional guidance on what exactly my problem was and what I should do about it.  Yes, I was transgender, I decided, but I still didn't know what to do about it. So, I took some very small steps.  I let my hair grow.  I started laser/electrolysis on my face.  I got my ears pierced.  At each step, I knew I could stop everything if it got too much, and just go back to being a guy, knowing I gave it my best shot and transition was just something I could not do. 

After a few months of therapy, I finally decided to see an endocrinologist and "try" HRT.  That was it.  Within a week or so of starting on estradiol, I knew what I wanted.  There was no going back. Not transitioning was no longer an option.  My thinking changed from "How could I possibly do this?" to "I have to find a way to do this."

Transition is very scary, very expensive, and can be very painful, both physically and emotionally.  Full transition is not for everybody.  It doesn't guarantee happiness.  It won't solve all your problems, only one big one. How I managed to get this far I still can't fathom. I don't know how I found the strength and the courage. Some of my trans friends have told me it is not a question of courage, it's just desperation - a lack of options.  I suppose that's true, but you still have to find a way to do it.

Finding your way I guess is what it's all about.  Whether that is simply knowing you are transgender, and being okay living as a male, keeping your career and marriage safe, to full transition, or somewhere in between.

I wish you well, my friend.

Blessings to you,

Terri

"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives" - Annie Dillard
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vicki_sixx

Thanks for the comments so far, girls. It seems none of you have been unfortunate enough to endure the struggle I'm facing - the 'OMG is this right, what if this, what if I don't pass, what if this, what if that, what if it's a terrible mistake?', the ugly duckling phase where you look odd whether you present as male or female, or of being abe to more or less get by happily as a guy yet thinking of being a girl 24/7 to the point where you wish your brain could switch off from it all.
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Dena

Vicki the time has come to trust somebody else. Both your video and your avatar appear very feminine and appearance wise you should have no difficulty passing as female. The one issue is you will need to work on your voice however I think therapy would be sufficient for you to produce a feminine voice. For somebody pre HRT you have an extremely good starting point and HRT will only improve what you already have. I see the issues you will need to work on as facial hair removal (if any), voice, bottom surgery and accepting that your appearance is sufficiently feminine that no facial surgery is required.
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AnneK

Quotewhat if I don't pass

Judging from your avatar, I don't think that would be an issue.
I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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Maybebaby56

Quote from: vicki_sixx on April 09, 2017, 01:16:04 PM
Thanks for the comments so far, girls. It seems none of you have been unfortunate enough to endure the struggle I'm facing - the 'OMG is this right, what if this, what if I don't pass, what if this, what if that, what if it's a terrible mistake?', the ugly duckling phase where you look odd whether you present as male or female, or of being abe to more or less get by happily as a guy yet thinking of being a girl 24/7 to the point where you wish your brain could switch off from it all.

Well, I certainly did go through the "OMG is this right, what if this, what if I don't pass, what if this, what if that, what if it's a terrible mistake?" part.  When I opted to explore the idea of transitioning, I was certain it would end in failure, and maybe I would end up even worse off than before because then, for sure, there would be no hope of ever being happy.  But at least I would have tried and not been forever tormented with the regret of "if only I had given myself a chance".

Finding out I could no longer even have a satisfactory relationship with a woman, or at least not a physical one, really left me with nothing to lose.  I figured if I was going to be alone for the rest of my life, I would at least try to make myself happy.  I guess the difference between you and me is you would be okay with being a guy and putting up with the constant voice in your head that you should have been a girl.  I couldn't take it any more.

With kindness,

Terri
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives" - Annie Dillard
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SarahGemini

Similar to what MaybeBaby said.  I thought I made it clear in my note I was totally in the same spot as you. I was paralyzed and thought taking this path was never going to work.  It was simply reaching that point of recognition that not trying would be worse, and staying the same was not the life I could endure.  It became not a choice but an act of all or nothing survival.  For me I was going to stay stuck until I reached that crossroads.  Once I decided I became headstrong and focused on going for it the best I could and just seeing how the cards played out. Mentally I was prepared for failure.  I just hoped with my soul and spirit it might work out. In the end it did. I consider myself lucky and fortunate but I also worked hard as hell at it and gave up a ton of things to get to where I wanted and needed to be.
Began transition in 2005
HRT 2006
FFS Dr O 2007
GRS I + II Dr Meltzer 2008
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Kylo

I thought to myself if I don't pass, what's the difference. People saw me before and 'accepted' what they saw, but only partially. There was always this abrasive disconnect between me and other people because of the fact I do not act female naturally, I do not get along easily with people expecting... well, a woman. I have no kids and no family of my own, such is the disconnect, and it's hit and miss interacting with others - love or hate, usually, and I tend to keep to myself because I'm tired of it. What exactly does a misfit like me have to lose? It's push on with that until death, or try out the hormones/surgery.

If you have something to lose, I can see the reason for trepidation. I have nothing to be deprived of that I fear, though.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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Janes Groove

1. It helped that I had lived as an openly gay person for 20 years previously, so I was no stranger to discrimination because of who I am and had developed a finely-tuned sense of righteous indignation to all the haters in this world.  If people are going to hate on me?  Well get in line. Been there.
2.  At 58, I no longer have the illusions of youth.   One of those illusions was somehow learning to thrive as a man.  Yes I could survive and live out my days in a lifeless, numbing denial. But thrive?  Don't think so.
3. Death of loved ones who were anti lgbt/obstacles.
4. What Sara said about  "reaching that place where the fear of the future was not as bad as staying stuck where I was."
5. Reaching a point of realizing, at least where I'm at, other people just don't care how I look. They all have their own movie playing.
6. What Terri said about lack of options.  It was just where I had evolved to.  It was obviously the next step in my path. Not to take it would have been, quite frankly at this point?   . . . the mind reels at the prospect.  The way I looked at it I had nothing left to lose.
7. Definitely went thru the ugly duckling phase during the 6 months I lived full time pre-HRT.  But my need to transition overrode all the mind monkeys yelling messages about "what if I don't pass."
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KathyLauren

I feel the same doubts from time to time.  I think most of us do. 

I read about trans folk who start on HRT and it's like a big switch lighting them up.  That wasn't me.  Yes, I feel better, more confident, more free, but it's not intense.  I don't feel gender, either male or female, I just feel like me.  I still do on HRT, but a little bit more me. 

Yes, it's easy to feel "not trans enough" with a story like that, when I compare myself to some (not all) accounts of others.  For years, the way I dealt with my dysphoria was by turning my feelings down to near zero.  As a result, i never felt a lot of dysphoria (or anything else).  I know I am not the only one who coped in that way.  It will be a long time before I learn to feel again.  In the meantime, I feel "not anything enough".  But the good news is that it's not a contest!

What keeps me going when I have doubts is contemplating going back.  I admit that it has an appeal, in that it was safe(r).  Of course, that is what kept me stuck in that prison for so long:  it is safe in a jail cell because the bars keep the monsters out.  But the thought of going back there fills me with horror.  The fear of the imaginary monsters was much worse than the reality of any monsters on the outside.  I compare how I feel dressed as Kathy for a support group meeting with how I feel when I put on my old boy clothes to go grocery shopping.  One feels light and free, whereas the other feels like I am dragging around a 200 lb suit of armour.

I don't worry about going "against nature".  I see nature as "everything that happens".  If it was against nature, it wouldn't happen.  I am not happy about being dependent on medication for the rest of my life.  But realistically, I was probably the only 62-year-old in this province who was not already on some chronic medication.

Nor do I worry about passing.  I will never be able to go stealth.  It doesn't matter to me if I get clocked from time to time, as long as I can keep myself safe.  I want to be seen as a classy old dame.  If someone suspects that I am a classy old trans dame, so what?  It's the truth.  I'll still be classy.

I am lucky in that, in my part of the world, there are legal protections for trans folks, and a society that values tolerance and diversity.  There are some bad apples, but they are in the minority.  I realize that not everyone is so fortunate.  The only thing that would make me consider going back would be if I could not stay safe as myself.  But that is mostly an imaginary monster.

I'm going full-time in two weeks, so I'll soon see how it is.  :)
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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vicki_sixx

Thanks everyone for your messages. Every single one means a lot and has been read and re-read.

Sarah and Terri
Looking back you were very clear - not sure how I missed that so apologies.


Kathy,
You echo a lot of how I feel. Ie: I feel like 'me' rather than anything else. My doubts about going against nature are a little odd on the whole. I felt like I was betraying nature when I considered getting a tattoo, my ears pierced and laser hair removal. In the end I got all three and never looking back!

If I was naturally effeminate had a slender build with long legs, or had a full head of hair then I'd be a lot easier on myself but as I'm none of the above, and do the macho Jason Statham thing pretty well it makes me stop and think: 'how can anyone this manl be TS? And how can he pull it off convincingly?' But like I said, far more macho men than I have transitioned and done amazngly well and are happy. Besides, how macho can I be when I'm waltzing around in guy mode with earring in both ears and dark red varnish on my nails! And how 'manly' can I be when I look at a gorgeous model in lingerie and be entranced by her skin, curves and underwear, longing to be the same, as opposed to admiring her sexuality?


Dena,
Thank you so, so much for your kind word and reassurance. I can't tell you how much yoru word touched me. It would be great to not need any FFS and words have given me much confidence. I wasn't fishing for compliments but extremely glad to have received some. And that you come to your conclusion after watching my video, knowing there's no Photoshop or manipulation of favourable angles going on, makes me feel much more confident and comfortable about myself. I know the fear is less about me changing and more about worrying what the outside world will think and react. You're right, it's time to trust somebody else.
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protean

Oh boy do I hear you! Back in college I came out to my parents as transgender and started transitioning from male to female. I really liked the changes to my body but with terrible self esteem and ZERO support from my family - I quit transitioning after about a year.
Over the next few years I threw myself into work but I still checked out MTF videos on youtube, just couldn't give up on this dream.
Now I realize that I must transition to be happy. Unfortunately I figured this out after I lost my job and had to move back in with my insane parents. Videos about how to deal with narcissistic parents has helped but I would rather be homeless than deal with my parents much longer. I am just too old to be dealing with this crap.
The best advice I remember from the many youtube videos came from a woman named Meghan. She created a spreadsheet of all the tasks she would need to accomplish to transition from male to female and kept notes on her transition. I think it helps to break down all the tasks into bite sized pieces.

Anyway, good luck to you and sorry for running on a bit.
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JoanneB

Quote from: vicki_sixx on April 09, 2017, 01:16:04 PM
Thanks for the comments so far, girls. It seems none of you have been unfortunate enough to endure the struggle I'm facing - the 'OMG is this right, what if this, what if I don't pass, what if this, what if that, what if it's a terrible mistake?', the ugly duckling phase where you look odd whether you present as male or female, or of being abe to more or less get by happily as a guy yet thinking of being a girl 24/7 to the point where you wish your brain could switch off from it all.
How many "WTF am I doing ???" meltdowns I cannot even begin to count. The first year and even suddenly these past few months. Going from 0% confidence of passing to 100% confidence to 10% at best. To I need to push on and try, to finding my real joy, to "WTF am I doing???"

Passing for me was never a question at 6ft tall, big everything, deeper then average male voice. 30 years ago it was important. 25 years ago just as important. 8 years ago immaterial when faced in a "Do or Die Trying" situation.

Today.... Why TF am I bothering? I got a thousand other pressures to keep my life, my totality "Together" with any sort of full transition libel to most likely blow it all to hell. I got buy as a "Normalish" guy for some (OMG) 60 years. What's another few more before I drink myself into a coma to shut off the noise, the extreme pain?

Then, out of left field after deciding I live in "Realville", My life can never be anything different then it was, then what it is rapidly becoming even more plainly as up the side of the head with a baseball bat reality check, my wife, BFF, and Reality therapist of some some almost 40 years tells me she "Misses Joanne" followed by telling me what a "sad unhappy sot" I am turning into with the implied sad, unhappy and "Angry" she used to describe me as. A lot changed in just a few weeks.

Which is MY "Terrible Mistake"?

What may be yours?
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