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Started by Melia02, March 03, 2014, 06:32:03 PM

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Colleen♡Callie

Oh, I so hope it does. 

I'm is SoCal, so we'll see.
"Tell my tale to those who ask.  Tell it truly; the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly.  The rest is silence." - Dinobot



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Melia02

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Quote from: FrancisAnn on March 12, 2014, 08:57:59 PM
That sounds too good to be true however I sure hope it is. I'm sure my Blue Cross will not cover any SRS help.

Good luck GF.

I was skeptical too, but it's legit. I just can't seem to find out who does the surgery. That's my biggest hold up right now because I'm not in California at the moment to make an appointment with my PCM. As far as Kaiser making you jump through hoops, I literally walked in for a new provider physical and had a referral for Endo put in that day. I didn't even have to ask haha. My PCM also asked about surgery and told me I came to Kaiser at a good time because of all the changes. She just wasn't too up to date on everything. My Endo looked my labs over and prescribed my estrogen that day. No hoops, no gimmicks, no psych, and no drama.
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FrancisAnn

Great for you girl friend. Go for it. It's so nice to see some good news from some of us SP girls.
mtF, mid 50's, always a girl since childhood, HRT (Spiro, E & Fin.) since 8-13. Hormone levels are t at 12 & estrogen at 186. Face lift & eye lid surgery in 2014. Abdominoplasty/tummy tuck & some facial surgery May, 2015. Life is good for me. Love long nails & handsome men! Hopeful for my GRS & a nice normal depth vagina maybe by late summer. 5' 8", 180 pounds, 14 dress size, size 9.5 shoes. I'm kind of an elegant woman & like everything pink, nice & neet. Love my nails & classic Revlon Red. Moving back to Florida, so excited but so much work moving
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Beth

Hi. New to the site, just joined, and this is my first post. I was okay with just lurking and reading but figured I had to join because of this thread, as I have some info to add.

I am insured under Kaiser in Northern California. And indeed SRS is covered, as it should be by now with most insurers in California as noted above by Colleen.

I transitioned 19 years ago and am just now getting around to the surgery. Imagine my surprise at learning that the procedure is now covered. Kaiser, of course, doesn't normally cover "out of network" services. You just get all services from Kaiser, period. But Kaiser does not have their own SRS surgeon. When services are not available "in-house", they contract with an outside provider, and provide coverage just as if the provider were in-house. The level of coverage (deductibles and co-pays and so on) should depend only on which Kaiser plan you have.

In this case the provider they contract with is Dr. Meltzer. At least, that's the case for MTF surgery, at least in the San Francisco area. I'm not sure how wide a geographical area that applies to, or who they use for FTM surgeries. I have already been to Scottsdale for a consult. Not only was I charged only a $10 copay (normal for the plan I'm on), but Kaiser covered the airfare and one night in a hotel near the clinic.

I have had a number of office visits locally at Kaiser. There was a general intake visit, a psych screening, a visit with a local Kaiser surgeon to authorize surgery, and so on. And each time, just the $10 copay, so by the time this is all said and done, I could have this whole thing for under $100, $200 max. (I don't remember whether my copay is higher for the actual inpatient stay, but I kind of think it isn't.) It's really rather astonishing.

The weird thing, though, is the idea that Kaiser now picks my surgeon for me. After all these years, it's pretty ingrained that I need to do my due diligence and research and choose the surgeon that's right for me. And now, poof! The decision has been made. At least, if I want insurance coverage, it has. As it happens, I've recently reached a point in my career where I actually have enough money that I could forego the insurance if I choose to, in order to use a different surgeon. And I'm thinking about it. I had been previously considering Dr. Bowers and so I have a consult with her this coming week. Just the consult alone will cost more than the entire treatment with Meltzer! If I choose her for the surgery... wow, that's a huge price difference, $23,000 minimum vs. $10.  :P  I waited all these years (for reasons not solely related to money), I finally decided to move forward with SRS (the timing is partially because I could afford it, finally), then I had the pleasant surprise of finding out it's now covered; it would sure be ironic to just forego that and shell out for surgery with somebody else. But I feel I still need to go through this selection process, even though there's a huge financial incentive to stick with Meltzer. I need to know that I made that choice myself, rather than just leaving such a big decision to somebody else. The price differential will surely play a role in my decision. But I need to at least consider the possibility that this once-in-a-lifetime decision matters, and that it might be worth the cost to choose somebody else. It's a tough decision, given the inherent crap-shoot of it all. I'd be interested in any thoughts anybody has on that conundrum. (Though maybe that deserves its own thread.)
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FrancisAnn

First good for you that insurance will cover your SRS. That is rare. I would try to stay with the surgeon approved by your insurance company. If any problems should occur later you may have better recourse. He must be a qualified surgeon for SRS if approved by your insurance company.

Good luck to you GF. I wish Blue Cross offered such coverage in my US state. But that will never happen I'm sure.
mtF, mid 50's, always a girl since childhood, HRT (Spiro, E & Fin.) since 8-13. Hormone levels are t at 12 & estrogen at 186. Face lift & eye lid surgery in 2014. Abdominoplasty/tummy tuck & some facial surgery May, 2015. Life is good for me. Love long nails & handsome men! Hopeful for my GRS & a nice normal depth vagina maybe by late summer. 5' 8", 180 pounds, 14 dress size, size 9.5 shoes. I'm kind of an elegant woman & like everything pink, nice & neet. Love my nails & classic Revlon Red. Moving back to Florida, so excited but so much work moving
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Beth

Hmm, what kind of "recourse" are you thinking of? Like if follow-up procedures are needed... they might not cover it if I had the original SRS outside of Kaiser? Hmm, an interesting point.

As for being approved by the insurance company, I think we all agree Dr. Meltzer is "a qualified surgeon", but I wouldn't go so far as to trust an insurance company to make good medical decisions!  :laugh:
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Colleen♡Callie

My issue with Kaiser at the moment, at least for SoCal area, is the lack of trans-experienced caregivers.  NorCal has a lot and Kaiser even has a transgender care center up there.

But down here, doesn't seem to be the case.  I really wish there was a gender therapist through kaiser down here, because I can't afford to go to one out of pocket, and could really really use the expertise of one to work through a lot right now.
"Tell my tale to those who ask.  Tell it truly; the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly.  The rest is silence." - Dinobot



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Beth

Hmm, maybe they can be convinced that they need to spring for you to go to somebody outside Kaiser. I know that takes cutting through a lot of bureaucracy. But therapy is an acknowledged, required part of this treatment, so if they can't provide an experienced person in-house, they need to provide somebody outside and cover you -- just like for the surgeon. Just my 2¢.
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Mo

I know this is an old topic but I just wanted to say that Kaiser DOES cover SRS. I have a $0 copay (thank you Obama Care) and therefore both top and bottom surgery are completely free for me, as well as testosterone or anything I need. It is not difficult at all and there aren't any real hoops to go through. You meet with a gender specialist and if they okay you then you are good to go. I got okayed my first meeting. But I am taking it slow and steady.
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Jacqueline

Quote from: Beth on May 04, 2014, 05:58:27 AM
Hi. New to the site, just joined, and this is my first post. I was okay with just lurking and reading but figured I had to join because of this thread, as I have some info to add.

I am insured under Kaiser in Northern California. And indeed SRS is covered, as it should be by now with most insurers in California as noted above by Colleen.

I transitioned 19 years ago and am just now getting around to the surgery. Imagine my surprise at learning that the procedure is now covered. Kaiser, of course, doesn't normally cover "out of network" services. You just get all services from Kaiser, period. But Kaiser does not have their own SRS surgeon. When services are not available "in-house", they contract with an outside provider, and provide coverage just as if the provider were in-house. The level of coverage (deductibles and co-pays and so on) should depend only on which Kaiser plan you have.

In this case the provider they contract with is Dr. Meltzer. At least, that's the case for MTF surgery, at least in the San Francisco area. I'm not sure how wide a geographical area that applies to, or who they use for FTM surgeries. I have already been to Scottsdale for a consult. Not only was I charged only a $10 copay (normal for the plan I'm on), but Kaiser covered the airfare and one night in a hotel near the clinic.

I have had a number of office visits locally at Kaiser. There was a general intake visit, a psych screening, a visit with a local Kaiser surgeon to authorize surgery, and so on. And each time, just the $10 copay, so by the time this is all said and done, I could have this whole thing for under $100, $200 max. (I don't remember whether my copay is higher for the actual inpatient stay, but I kind of think it isn't.) It's really rather astonishing.

The weird thing, though, is the idea that Kaiser now picks my surgeon for me. After all these years, it's pretty ingrained that I need to do my due diligence and research and choose the surgeon that's right for me. And now, poof! The decision has been made. At least, if I want insurance coverage, it has. As it happens, I've recently reached a point in my career where I actually have enough money that I could forego the insurance if I choose to, in order to use a different surgeon. And I'm thinking about it. I had been previously considering Dr. Bowers and so I have a consult with her this coming week. Just the consult alone will cost more than the entire treatment with Meltzer! If I choose her for the surgery... wow, that's a huge price difference, $23,000 minimum vs. $10.  :P  I waited all these years (for reasons not solely related to money), I finally decided to move forward with SRS (the timing is partially because I could afford it, finally), then I had the pleasant surprise of finding out it's now covered; it would sure be ironic to just forego that and shell out for surgery with somebody else. But I feel I still need to go through this selection process, even though there's a huge financial incentive to stick with Meltzer. I need to know that I made that choice myself, rather than just leaving such a big decision to somebody else. The price differential will surely play a role in my decision. But I need to at least consider the possibility that this once-in-a-lifetime decision matters, and that it might be worth the cost to choose somebody else. It's a tough decision, given the inherent crap-shoot of it all. I'd be interested in any thoughts anybody has on that conundrum. (Though maybe that deserves its own thread.)

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