Republican True Colors

[cheryl reeves]

In The USA We Do both,weapons To Keep The Govt In check,And food To feed us while we protect ourselves.  This is why the USA has a set of amendments making sure of that right.

I've been accused of being afraid of socialism, the problem is I am not,I just know socialism fails the people everytime,socialism has been tried for over 5,000 yrs and still doesn't work no matter how you flavor it to make it look good, socialism only takes care of those in power and destitutes those not in power. I'm very highly educated and have studied countries and nations for over 40 yrs. Capitalism works if there is no govt interference and the middle class thrives, socialism  no one really thrives but the top 5% who hold power.

[AnneK]

In The USA We Do both,weapons To Keep The Govt In check

My impression, from this side of the border, is that Americans have much more to fear from those who feel they need weapons to "keep the govt in check" than they do from the government.  A lot of those types are downright scary!  One big problem the U.S. has is those who think the solution to every problem, including gun violence, is more guns.  Maybe they're the cause of the problem.  Also, don't think I'm against guns.  In fact, I used to own a rifle.  But I am against those guns first types.  Don't forget, the NRA is largely a front for the gun industry and prior to mid 60s, the NRA was mainly about guns safety and responsible gun ownership.  Now, it's become a very serious contributor to violence in the U.S..

[cheryl reeves]

What's weird is I have a Derringer and it hasn't shot me yet...Now I'm kinda scared thinking it may be plotting kill me.....sorry not trying to be sarcastic, but gun violence  pales in comparison to legal murder of the unborn,more unborn babies die everyday then anyone due to gun violence.  Matter of fact where the populace is armed robberies  go down and the only ones usually wind up dead is the bad guy,too some the bad guy is the good guy trying to make a living robbing and some dastardly home owner or store owner had to shoot him why he was a good man just doing his job robbing and killing. Enough of that before I get my walking papers.

Once appon a time Germany banned citizens from owning guns we seen how that turned out,Russia, China,Venezuela all the same,Europe is falling to Islam because of gun bans. The USA is a safe place in areas where there is no gun bans,look at florids,Oklahoma, Texas,and other states that allow open of concealed carry th I see places are safe to live in for those states along with a few others respect the citizens, where there is gun  bans the violence goes up. 

The USA  was set up so the govt would fear and respect their citizens,but most of that ended in a heap in 1933 and the nightmare began, the government  has been trying to ban weapons so too be able to run roughshod over us, besides alot of the military would revolt against the government so the USA stays a safe place too live where you can be somewhat free.

IDebated  alot of so called learned people and all they seem to know is what the universaties teach and they don't go beyond that,that's why I didn't go for I knew more then those teachers by the time I was in 7th grade on the rruth of the robbery that took place in 1933, bUT what stopped them from fully stealing our country was a armed population, so they got smart and created the department of  education to slowly mind wash the young so when they got older they could take more and more and the cycle still goes on. I was smart by the time I was in second grade I went to outside sources and actual history and became a enemy of my history and economic teachers for I knew the truth they weren't teaching same with religion. When I saw the matrix trilogy I started to use it to slowly wake others up to the truth that you can find easily on the Internet these days,when all I had was what I could find for we had no web.

Like I said socialism never works out for those not in power,read too many examples where it was tried and failed.

[Deborah]

Anyone who thinks that the military is going to revolt to support some right wing revolution is one who has no understanding of the US Military.

And anyone who thinks that armed citizens can stand against US Soldiers will be in for a rude awakening.


Conform and be dull. —James Frank Dobie, The Voice of the Coyote

[Lady Sarah]

I know there are many that would jump for joy if all guns were made to be illegal. Of course, they do not take into consideration the need to hunt in order to control animal populations. Not everyone lives in cites, nor wants to. Personally, I feel no need to carry a weapon. If threatened, I am sure someone else will have a handgun handy to remedy the situation.
The military will follow the orders given them. A nephew of mine said he would shoot his own mother if ordered to do so. This is what they are taught, and they have much better weaponry than any citizen could have. If the military came for me, I'm a goner. Alas, I fear more of Russia taking over. I do not trust the Trump administration.

[Doreen]

Seriously... and I don't even live in the city, I live in the backwoods of the appalachian mountains.  Here we have bears, deer, racoons, weasels, and other varmint that need shooting.  We also have meth heads, drug dealers, and just general scum who'd as soon shoot you and bury you under some random trailer as look at you.

Yes I believe in self defense.  I honestly think you're an idiot not to.  Have I shot anyone? No, never.  Do I plan on it? Of course not!  Should the need arise would I? Yes.  And none of my firearms have gone off & plotted my murder amazing as it seems.

Just because something isn't right for you, lets not mandate its not right for everyone else too.

[Deborah]

Soldiers are trained to refuse to obey illegal orders and trained to know what is illegal.  Obeying an illegal order is illegal in itself.  So they are not simply killer robots.  However, they do take an oath and they take that oath seriously.


Conform and be dull. —James Frank Dobie, The Voice of the Coyote

[bubbles21]

What's weird is I have a Derringer and it hasn't shot me yet...Now I'm kinda scared thinking it may be plotting kill me.....sorry not trying to be sarcastic, but gun violence  pales in comparison to legal murder of the unborn,more unborn babies die everyday then anyone due to gun violence.  Matter of fact where the populace is armed robberies  go down and the only ones usually wind up dead is the bad guy,too some the bad guy is the good guy trying to make a living robbing and some dastardly home owner or store owner had to shoot him why he was a good man just doing his job robbing and killing. Enough of that before I get my walking papers.

Once appon a time Germany banned citizens from owning guns we seen how that turned out,Russia, China,Venezuela all the same,Europe is falling to Islam because of gun bans. The USA is a safe place in areas where there is no gun bans,look at florids,Oklahoma, Texas,and other states that allow open of concealed carry th I see places are safe to live in for those states along with a few others respect the citizens, where there is gun  bans the violence goes up. 

The USA  was set up so the govt would fear and respect their citizens,but most of that ended in a heap in 1933 and the nightmare began, the government  has been trying to ban weapons so too be able to run roughshod over us, besides alot of the military would revolt against the government so the USA stays a safe place too live where you can be somewhat free.

IDebated  alot of so called learned people and all they seem to know is what the universaties teach and they don't go beyond that,that's why I didn't go for I knew more then those teachers by the time I was in 7th grade on the rruth of the robbery that took place in 1933, bUT what stopped them from fully stealing our country was a armed population, so they got smart and created the department of  education to slowly mind wash the young so when they got older they could take more and more and the cycle still goes on. I was smart by the time I was in second grade I went to outside sources and actual history and became a enemy of my history and economic teachers for I knew the truth they weren't teaching same with religion. When I saw the matrix trilogy I started to use it to slowly wake others up to the truth that you can find easily on the Internet these days,when all I had was what I could find for we had no web.

Like I said socialism never works out for those not in power,read too many examples where it was tried and failed.

What do you mean Europe is falling to Islam because of gun bans? By that logic wouldn't that mean Australia would be falling to Islam because of gun bans? Because it isn't. Wonder who funds these fundamentalist groups? Who just made an arms deal with Saudi Arabia? There are 2 groups which use a distorted view of Islam to cause hatred and division and they are Daesh and ppl from the far right.

Another thing, how is Florida safe? Gun homicide has risen in Florida due to the stand your ground legislation making it easier for ppl to kill others and then claim self defense later.

And how has the education dpt brainwashed the younger population? It's true that the more educated you are the more progressive you are, i don't see anything wrong with that. An educated population is a positive thing. A more educated/progressive populace is going to mean that people like you and the rest of us are more accepted and can live without the bs we live with today. And i don't think the US is at the same level of North Korea in respect to brainwashing its youth lol.

You still saying socialism doesn't work, full socialism may not work but social democratic nations tend to prosper. Venezuela is not a good example of how socialism has failed (if you had mentioned Czechoslovakia i might agree). There were far more factors that added to the decline of Venezuela.

[cheryl reeves]

Really the more you are educated the more your progressive?  This is why I skipped going to college for most are liberal leaning and I knew I would not be welcome. For I don't believe or pander too that propaganda,I was raised too be a free thinker which got me in trouble for I can't be controlled not one teacher in my education controlled me and they found it best not to challenge me,not wise for teachers too show face to a student.  They made a mistake when I was in 6th grade by giving me a I.Q. test and found they couldn't teach me for I was beyond them,so instead of promoting me they let me do my own thing and just coast,graduated on em too.

I've read the arguments many times well socialism failed in that country but progressive Americans can do better,well 10 trillion dollars later and failed inner cities and a nation in heavy debt. Well 8 yrs of it and it failed so bad the conservatives are now in power, wow,hillary carried the major cities but trump took the country,wonder why,maybe people got sick of it.  Social programs don't work ask the blks living in poverty in the ghettos,the blks that gained power robbed their own people, ask the American Indians living on reservations how that is working,the ones that have casino's have it somewhat luckier,but many don't.

So tell me more of this socialist utopia we can have in the USA if we give our lives into the hands of politicians?

[cheryl reeves]

Europe i s falling to Islam ,that's a fact, Muslims in Texas have learned hard how we can careless of their so called religious laws,we passed laws preventing them to put their rights above texans. Matter of fact a couple of Muslims found out d op nt mess with a Texan for it can get you dead,a dead they got,they go elsewhere out of state where it safer too do what trouble they want to do. Right now Texas is safer then alot of places in Europe because we are armed.

[JulieOnHerWay]

I live in Canada, where health care is available for all.  In Ontario, we used to have premiums, but they were abolished years ago.  This covers basic health care, though not most prescriptions or dental.  Private insurance is available to cover these and extras, such as private rooms in the hospital, glasses, etc.  According to what I've read, the U.S. has the most expensive health care in the industrialized world and many people are still left out.  Private insurance coverage here is often provided by employers, but may also be obtained individually or through some group.  For example, I'm eligible for a group plan through the college I went to and also the auto association.  Probably elsewhere too.

This morning I had some blood tests, as requisitioned by my doctor, and I just had to provide my health card to have them covered.

Why does health care have to be so difficult in the U.S.?

It is simple.
$$$$$$$$$
It has always astounded me that to get good health insurance you have to probably compromise somewhere else in your employment.  i.e. wages.
As someone posted above, everyone in the USA should all assume that everyone in the best country in the world earns a living wage and health care insurance is not based on your employment status.  Like all other 1st world nations.

As long as the USA places profit before people's health we will continue to spiral to our future as a 3rd world nation.  AKA Somalia.

Also I find multiple fonts and colors disconcerting.  Keep it simple baby.S

[bubbles21]

Europe i s falling to Islam ,that's a fact, Muslims in Texas have learned hard how we can careless of their so called religious laws,we passed laws preventing them to put their rights above texans. Matter of fact a couple of Muslims found out d op nt mess with a Texan for it can get you dead,a dead they got,they go elsewhere out of state where it safer too do what trouble they want to do. Right now Texas is safer then alot of places in Europe because we are armed.

So are you proud of the burning of the mosque and the rise in hate crimes, bigoted graffiti, racist fliers handed out at universities against Muslims in Texas?

What legislation was passed to prevent them from putting their rights above texans? I'd be interested to know how Muslims were going to do that?

It is not a fact that Europe is falling to Islam. Where did you learn this? lol

[Cindy]

 I have removed one post for bashing people.

If there is any more I shall get rid of the thread.

Cindy

[JulieOnHerWay]

I would like to add any insurance goes up in price when it becomes law to have it..car insurance was cheap til the federal government made it mandatory to have it and the premiums went through the roof, then the auto insurance industry got deregulated and alot of insurance companies sprang up offering cheaper rates then  the big insurance companies and premiums went down and now there is major competition.  The health isurance industry isn't deregulated and cannot cross state lines so premiums are higher and the pharmaceutical companies are deregulated so prices for medication goes up...Where there is no competition their is a monopoly.  The federal government needs to deregulated the health isurance industry so to make it more.competitive.  My ancestors didn't have free healthcare when they came here from europe,my native American ancestors didn't either, when this country was made into a country they didn't include healthcare and according to liberalism they did this on purpose.  I believe in free enterprise where competitor drives down prices instead of raising them.

Cheryl.  First, the federal government has nothing to do with vehicle insurance.  It's one of those pesky state rights issues. Blame it (whatever "it" is) on your state legislators. 
Second, the insurance company executives can sit down at the Waffle House and divide their markets up anyway they want now (or pre-ObamaCare) an there is nothing you or I can do about it to get prices down.   The system is rigged.
Third.  Your ancestors average age was 47 years old for men...35 for women.  Your native American ancestors was even lower.  Your ancestors did not have cars, regular jobs or houses with electricity or A/C.  Sweetie, times change.  Maybe we need to also.

[JulieOnHerWay]

Guess most if you didn't get the memo Obama care failed the American people by losing Dr. ,insurance premiums through the roof all in all its a money pit and now the teeth has been yanked from the IRS now you aren't being fined for not having that worthless insurance.  I'm on medicare  and pay for a separate policy from human which costs me 110 dollars a month out of my social security  check,I didn't lose coverage or my dr.because of obamacare. Let me ask when is it the rich people's problem to be taxed to the hilt to pay for the have nots?  I remember when communities took care of each other,now they expect the wealthy to pay the perks they didn't work hard enough to get....I  know some are going to talk about my social security,but that a system I paid into when I didn't have to due to being disabled from birth but chose to work for what I have instead of lamenting how some successful businessperson  isn't paying my way. I know alot of poor people who chose to work without govt  interference and did just fine.  Remember Venezuela and when they stopped the free market what happened and is still happening they drove businesses out of country where it was better to do business.

An old proverb about socialism , you can only print so much money,and sooner or later your.going to run out of other people's money and the whole thing collapses.

Seeing how you are dependent on Medicare and Social Security, I would suggest that you pray that the money does not stop flowing to the Feds and thus to your socialist needs.
I struggle to see how your logic works.

[JulieOnHerWay]

The problem is 95% of Americans do not want socialism because this country was founded as a republic. What  I do is when someone comes up to me wanting this country to turn socialist I tell em to move to a country that already has it and leave my beloved America alone. Part of my family escaped England in the 1600 til they finally made the voyage over they wanted freedom without govt interference,the other part of my family didn't want the whites here ,but here they came to be free to shape their own destinies without govt interference. This country is about the people and people have forgotten that because of Roosevelt selling us into a democracy where the govt makes the decisions not the people,it's actually the govt  that answers too the people,but these days people want the govt to provide but where does that money come from? Some say let's tax the wealthy til they are poor and tax their businesses out of existence but then where is the money going to come from? Most don't realize it doesn't appear like magic or we can keep printing make believe currency backed by nothing but human beings.  See just because I'm Transgender doesn't mean I didn't study,when I was in the 7th grade I knew more about our govt and history then the teacher teaching it for I schooled her on the real world,for they.didn't teach history in u er liberal college it seems and she left me alone giving me a's just to sit quietly and do my own thing and she would leave me alone. I'm not being mean but look what happened to Rome when it went from a republic to a democracy  it became a church to save itself from ruin but still maintained control through threat of death.

Cheryl you intellectual processes are remarkable.  And you proclamations are too.  Your logic, not so much.
Your country is a socialist country.  As per your previous post, you are a dependent on that socialist country's benefits. 

[JulieOnHerWay]

Just some figures to consider:

Corporate tax rates:
1915    1%
1940  24%
1951  51%
2014  35%

Top Marginal Income tax rates
1915   7%
1940  80%
1951  92%
2014  35%

Corporate Profits
1951  ~$50B
2014  $1.7 Trillion

The poor are not stealing anyone's money.  The rich are not being taxed until they're poor.  Corporations are not being taxed out of business. 

Marie Antoinette - "Let them eat cake."
Inavka Trump - "Make champagne popsicles this Memorial Day!"

We're not becoming Rome, we're becoming pre-Revolutionary France.  And that didn't end well either. 

Erin

You go, girl

[JulieOnHerWay]

Interesting.  The first of my relatives to come to North America arrived in 1630 to Plymouth Colony.  He was a deacon so I imagine he could have been fleeing persecution.  There were also quite a few Quakers in the family tree.  I imagine many fled England because of persecution and then fled to Canada after the Revolutionary war.   The rest of my relatives came to find new opportunities.

Paige

Paige
We are relatives.  i have supposedly 13 ancestors on the Mayflower.  It is still hard to get admitted to the Mayflower Society.
To get my grandsons accepted is a life goal.  15th generation.
Julie

[cheryl reeves]

Seeing how you are dependent on Medicare and Social Security, I would suggest that you pray that the money does not stop flowing to the Feds and thus to your socialist needs.
I struggle to see how your logic works.

You must have no knowledge of how social security works, see I paid a tax to social security towards the day I couldn't work,under the LBJ administration the democratic congress got their hands on it and bankrupted it. The government has to pay me back for the money I sent in. So how is collecting my money from the government socialism? It's my money held in trust by the government. .

On another note I see we have more mayflower descendants here,mine was William Brewster and Miles Standish  direct decendant, if it wasn't for those 2 their wouldn't have been a mayflower or Plymouth colony.

[cheryl reeves]

Also the federal government did make it mandatory to have car insurance but the industry became deregulated and car insurance went down,deregulated the health industry making it possible to compete.  I know how this works, look at the trucking industry due to deregulation freight became cheaper and companies had to compete to stay alive.


What is scary is how progressives plot to steal other people's money in the name of redistribution of wealth, except the wealth stays in the hands of the 10 percent and never trickles down. Some of you must think I have no clue too the real world which is even scarier.

I have been keeping this line according to TOS.and haven't tried to bash anyone but certain groups do not buy into political correctness.