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Started by Jennifer RachaelAnn, June 01, 2017, 09:23:50 PM

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Jennifer RachaelAnn

I have a lot of things that popped in my head today, that I'm just curious about and decided that making a million posts to ask every question was pointless.

And I want to point out that all of this comes from personal experience, and it is not my intention in any way to offend anyone. If by some chance I do, I want to apologize in advance right now.

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I have met a lot of transgender people, mostly online. And it seems they all have one thing in common. They're white. Is it just me or is the transgender community predominantly white? I have never met a black, Asian, Indian or whatever race that was transgender. And if it is just white people, how do other races feel about the TG community? Hell, everyone that I have met from the entire LGBT spectrum was white. I wouldn't think it was just white people, but that's been my experience. I hope there's someone here that can set me straight on this.

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Another that I've noticed is that there seems to not be any little people in our community. Is that right, or am I way off on this one too?

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And another that I have noticed that seems to be avoided is the subject of porn. Personally I don't like the term "->-bleeped-<-", but there's a lot of that kind of porn out there. Is anyone flat out offended by it? Or is there someone who absolutely loves it. I have no problem with the subject, I just don't like the light that it sheds on the rest of us.

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And what about hate? I would say that anyone who says they're not prejudice against anything is lying to themselves, and me. There's always something you hate. But it seems that everyone tries as hard as they can to make the TG community seem as tho they love everyone and everything. It's just not plausible to me.

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Sexual attraction. People act to me that because we're trans, that we're only allowed to be attracted to other trans people. M2F have no choice but to be with F2M, and vice versa. Keep the straight intelligent people pure. Stick it where the sun don't shine, if you think that way.

Since I'm a woman does that mean that I can only be attracted to you men here? Is that the way the rest of the world sees us?

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And what kind of experiences have you had with the rest of the LGBT community? I have been shunned by pretty much everyone who is part of the homosexual side. Lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, they have all treated me like an invalid. They're saying pick one or the other. Gay or straight. And I want to say right now that I myself am bisexual, so I really don't get this.

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There's probably a bunch more that I would want to ask, but I can't think of anything else at the moment.
"There are many who would take my time. I shun them.
There are some who share my time. I am entertained by them.
There are precious few who contribute to my time. I cherish them."


-Anton Szandor LaVey



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Dena

Quote from: Jennifer RachaelAnn on June 01, 2017, 09:23:50 PM
I have met a lot of transgender people, mostly online. And it seems they all have one thing in common. They're white. Is it just me or is the transgender community predominantly white? I have never met a black, Asian, Indian or whatever race that was transgender. And if it is just white people, how do other races feel about the TG community? Hell, everyone that I have met from the entire LGBT spectrum was white. I wouldn't think it was just white people, but that's been my experience. I hope there's someone here that can set me straight on this.
We have black and Aisan as well as Mexican and South American on the site. I haven't spotted native americans yet but I suspect they exist. There are people from india on the site though only one currently active as a poster.
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Another that I've noticed is that there seems to not be any little people in our community. Is that right, or am I way off on this one too?
They are relatively rare in the population and only a small percentage of them would be transgender. In addition, growth hormones mean that there are fewer young little people.
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And another that I have noticed that seems to be avoided is the subject of porn. Personally I don't like the term "->-bleeped-<-", but there's a lot of that kind of porn out there. Is anyone flat out offended by it? Or is there someone who absolutely loves it. I have no problem with the subject, I just don't like the light that it sheds on the rest of us.
That is a term that makes staff member unhappy as well. We would prefer the word not be used as well.
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Sexual attraction. People act to me that because we're trans, that we're only allowed to be attracted to other trans people. M2F have no choice but to be with F2M, and vice versa. Keep the straight intelligent people pure. Stick it where the sun don't shine, if you think that way.

Since I'm a woman does that mean that I can only be attracted to you men here? Is that the way the rest of the world sees us?
There are two terms, Gender identity and sexual preference. The are not the same thing and are not interrelated. You can be heterosexual, bisexual, gay or asexual just like any other member of the population. Just because you are transgender doesn't imply your sexual preference. This was a mistake that doctors made early on. They though that reassignment surgery would be a treatment for homosexuality and it isn't.
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And what kind of experiences have you had with the rest of the LGBT community? I have been shunned by pretty much everyone who is part of the homosexual side. Lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, they have all treated me like an invalid. They're saying pick one or the other. Gay or straight. And I want to say right now that I myself am bisexual, so I really don't get this.
I haven't had a huge exposure but I have been treated well. I was part of a catholic gay group for a while and it was strictly social. I even went on a retreat with them and all of us had great time together.
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bubbles21

Quote from: Dena on June 01, 2017, 09:44:19 PM
We have black and Aisan as well as Mexican and South American on the site. I haven't spotted native americans yet but I suspect they exist. There are people from india on the site though only one currently active as a poster.

Got Indigenous Australian here as well.
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Lady Sarah

Not only have I met black and Hispanic trans people, but I have met Chinese, Japanese, and Filipino trans people as well.

I have met trans women that thought I should be with them in a sexual manner. It seems enough think that way, but since I was never attracted to them, I held out. I have only dated men, and married  one.

Before transitioning, I could talk to lesbians and gay men. They won't talk to me anymore. Since I currently reside where they are few, I don't care. I have plenty of cis women as friends to talk to.
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Cimara

I am sure transgender people exist within all races. But for some it is shameful or dangerous to be trans so they stay in hiding. I remember watching an online video of a middle eastern transwomen who had been arrested for being trans. I do not remember what country it was but the police officers took great delight in humiliating and dehumanizing her. They removed her veil and pointed out her face stubble so whomever was filming this horror could zoom in on it. I couldn't understand the language but after making comments they would all laugh and that look of pain would flash across across her face. They made sure to get good camera angles while they shaved off all her hair. This woman had actually been in hiding and got arrested in some kind of trans raid. This has stuck with me because I remember the look of terror in the woman's eyes. The fear was warranted.  They executed her. Just for being trans.

I find the term ->-bleeped-<- highly offensive as well as the term ->-bleeped-<-. They tend to be used in a derogatory manor like ->-bleeped-<-ot, queer, etc.

I do not know how common it is for MtFs and FtMs to have relationships. My boyffriend is FtM . I certainly do not feel like I have to date only transmen. My past relationships were all with cis guys. But in no way do I feel like I am " settling for less" by dating a transguy. Except for the lack of one physical attribute my boyfriend is no different from the cis guys I have dated. In fact my friends who do know he is trans were a little shocked I was dating a transguy so I don't know about people expecting trans to only date other trans.

I have a very good gay friend. I get along well with him and also his other friends. They get along well with my boyfriend as well. A couple of them are always telling Lucas he is hot so him being trans does not seem to matter to them. Lesbians tend to be another matter.  I am not saying this applies to all lesbians by any means but the lesbians I have been around who knew I was trans were quote unfriendly.  They ignored me completely despite my attempt at being friendly. They pretty much ignored Lucas as well. When we were around lesbians who knew Lucas was trans they treated him with contempt. One even misgendered him. Her exact words were " She takes being butch a little too far."   Again this is from my experiences only and I am not saying all lesbians are this way but the lesbians I have been around were very mean and unfriendly people.
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Devlyn

It's not just white people, google two-spirit.
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KathyLauren

There are trans people in all "races" and ethnic groups.  They say we are 1% or less of the overall population.  You can probably apply that 1% number across the board to all groups and be pretty close to accurate.

I find the exploitation of people via porn to be offensive.  I am sure that there are porn actors who enjoy what they do and are happy with it as a career choice, and I have no problem with that.  But I wonder how many do it because they need the money and have few other options for earning any.  I especially feel sad that there must be many trans porn actors who are only doing it to earn the money they need for surgery.

I hate bigots.  That is pretty much the only group that I hate.  I am not proud of that: it really would be better if I didn't hate anyone.  But I do.

I know some trans-trans couples, but I know more trans-cis couples.  I suspect that trans people who transition before meeting up with a partner find it easier to find someone understanding among the trans community.  But I also know at least one trans person who met their cis partner after transitioning.  And there are many of us, including quite a few on this forum who transitioned while already in a relationship with a cis person, where the relationship survived or even got stronger.  There are no rules.  You are attracted to whomever you are attracted to.

The second person I came out to, after my wife, was a lesbian neighbour.  She and her partner are now good friends of ours.  They have been very supportive, helping me get in touch with local resources.  I have not had a lot of contact with the broader LGB community, since we live out in the sticks, but I have detected no animosity.  Not saying it isn't out there, but I have not encountered it.
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maksim

I've seen people of all races that are trans not only here, but elsewhere, too! Most of my trans friends are actually POC! I only have maybe two white trans friends, with many more that aren't white. It's just that the white ones tend to get more visibility. :/

As far as porn goes, I think that if the trans actors are okay with it for themselves, then it's alright. But as others have said, if they're doing it because they're in a desperate financial situation or to gain funds for surgery, it's very sad. The word "->-bleeped-<-" is very gross, and a lot of derogatory terms are used for anyone in the porn industry, but it's even worse when it comes to trans actors.

It's absolutely untrue that the trans community is free of hate, because there are always people who hate other people or things. I'm going to admit that I have a lot of hate in me. It's not something I'm proud of, but there are a lot of things that have happened in my life that cause me to hate certain people and groups (pedophiles, abusers, manipulative people, just plain mean people, etc)

I've actually never heard that said about trans people and sexuality, I'd say the most common stereotype that I've heard personally is that all trans people are attracted to the opposite gender, and if they were cis then they'd be gay. For me, I'm sexually attracted to men, but I have a romantic relationship with my girlfriend. I've been told that I could just be a straight girl because I'm attracted to men... But that's not how it works.

Overall, my experiences with the rest of the LGBT population have been pretty okay! I have excellent friends who are LGB but not trans, and I haven't had an issue with them at all. I'd actually go as far to say that I only have two or three straight friends, and the rest are somewhere on the LGBT spectrum! However, I have had very negative experiences with LGB people in the past. I used to go to an LGBT social group for teenagers, and I was one of the two trans people there. Both of us were constantly left out of conversations and mostly ignored when we had anything to say, except by the facilitators. I've been called slurs by some LGB people, and it's just a fact that not everyone sticks together like they say we should.


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Jennifer RachaelAnn

Quote from: Dena on June 01, 2017, 09:44:19 PM
We have black and Aisan as well as Mexican and South American on the site. I haven't spotted native americans yet but I suspect they exist.

I should have noted that when I said Indian, I meant people from India. I wasn't referring to Native Americans. I am part Cherokee, and hate being called an Indian. But I would rather that than injun.
"There are many who would take my time. I shun them.
There are some who share my time. I am entertained by them.
There are precious few who contribute to my time. I cherish them."


-Anton Szandor LaVey



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