Found the noise in mums car, lose heat shield. She could only hear it with her aids in and TBH nothing I could hear , tighten the clip and its fine. While I had it on Ds outside lift I knocked out the dent in the air dam under front bumper, looks better and with a bit of primer and top coat that mum has it looks fine.
Jump leads of my car onto panel van made it turn over, looks like battery duff. Just need to put clean fuel in it now, warning to anyone with petrol powered machinery that the fuel is only good for about 3 months since they put methanol in it.
Back home by 2.45, Debs was out. Mum gave me a load of broad (fava ?) beans so shelled them, 2 bags (about a cup) in the freezer and some of the tender ones to go with pasta tomorrow