Body concerns

[JoanneB]

Not all women are curvy. Hell, I know women with a more masculine body shape than I ever had. After almost 6 years on hormones, I'm still not that curvy. It's one of those things I've just had to accept.

+1

Plenty of real women are stick figures, especially when they are young (<25ish). Especially especially when they are Super Models or even plain ole models

[Angieisalone]

Eat more food more often with higher calories?


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This doesn't always work. I eat about 2500 - 3000 cals per day and any weight I gained usually goes to my stomach.

[Deborah]

This doesn't always work. I eat about 2500 - 3000 cals per day and any weight I gained usually goes to my stomach.

Excess carbohydrates are stored as fat in existing fat cells.  Most of us who were under the influence of testosterone for any length of time do have too many fat cells around the midsection.  So overeating will lead to fat being stored there.

With HRT it may be stored there less as excess carbohydrates will also be directed to the hips and breasts as fat storage.  Nevertheless, it will grow your waist more than desirable.

It may be that over the period of many years of HRT the fat cells in the midsection will go away but that will likely only happen if they aren't being used to store excess fat.  I don't think there are any studies to prove that though.


Conform and be dull. —James Frank Dobie, The Voice of the Coyote

[Emily E]

Hello, 

    I think you have the same concerns that a lot of younger girls have but you don't have to settle for it.   It would be nice of have a bunch of money to just go get a BBL but it may not be your best alternative considering how lean you are.  I would suggest that you try to build up the muscles in your thighs and butt to give you the underling structure for what little fat you already actually have.  The addition of a couple inches of muscle to your hips will probably add the curves your looking for (or at least get you started) just look up "thigh opening yoga" and "butt workouts for women" to see what can help you (if it works for women it will work for you).

Good Luck

[Angieisalone]

Excess carbohydrates are stored as fat in existing fat cells.  Most of us who were under the influence of testosterone for any length of time do have too many fat cells around the midsection.  So overeating will lead to fat being stored there.

With HRT it may be stored there less as excess carbohydrates will also be directed to the hips and breasts as fat storage.  Nevertheless, it will grow your waist more than desirable.

It may be that over the period of many years of HRT the fat cells in the midsection will go away but that will likely only happen if they aren't being used to store excess fat.  I don't think there are any studies to prove that though.


Conform and be dull. —James Frank Dobie, The Voice of the Coyote

It sucks. Rather have the weight go to my butt, thighs and breasts.

[Maybebaby56]

Since the other topic had to be deleted (ooooops, sorry). I'm reposting appropriately.

https://imgur.com/a/S20Li so...yeah this is my body. I'm really sad because 22 months of HRT haven't defined my waist and I feel my body is a little stick and it bothers me. My face has feminized big time, my body has softened but I don't feel my body is curvy. so, yeah, please give me some advice. I have been trying to do exercise, like squats, to define my waist as much as I can.

what did you girls do to get a more defined body? thank you

Sweetie, you look fine.  Of course you don't give your age, which matters a great deal here as far as advice, but since you are seemingly still under your parents' roof, or at least their wing, I assume you are teen-age or there about.

In that case, you have nothing to worry about.  You look like a million other teen-age girls, and I mean that in a very complimentary way.  You are slim and attractive. And, you have your parents' support!  That is worth a million dollars right there!  You are so lucky and you don't even know it.

Your face is the number one thing people initially notice.  You can do a lot of things with clothes to accentuate your best features, but a beautiful face transcends everything.  Your face says "I am a girl!" From what I can tell, you have been blessed, so please don't despair. I would gladly trade places with you.  I started my transition at age 56. I get to start out as some fading middle-aged bitch - and I consider myself very lucky!  I am thrilled to have that opportunity!   You have your whole life ahead of you, yours to live as a beautiful girl.  How awesome is that!

With kindness,

Terri

[Aurorasky]

I am aware not all women are curvy. But I'm not sure why people here think that saying women are also this way that should be comforting. It's not comforting to me. I am sure if I was a genetic girl, people wouldn't say "oh don't worry there are tons of girls with that shape" or if I was fat.  It's just that it makes me feel less feminine and I'm sure many ggs feel the same about their shape if they have no curves.

Thank you, Dena and Julia1996, I will just focus on my face I guess. Lol just kidding. But yes, my butt has developed nquite nicely but since I have no hips, it makes me look a bit 'funny'. That's what annoys me.

Josie76 and Maybebaby56, I started HRT at 18. Before that I was very androgynous (no beard, fatty face, 5'5 height) and people often thought I was, albeit weird, girl who was dressed in male clothes. It was tough because I had to deal with a lot of harassment and second looks. I also have a really high voice so people would be even clueless when I spoke. Then I started HRT my face feminized but my body kept very lean so...yeah. I had no support from my parents til I changed my name at 19 but now they have been supportive. The thing that frustrates me is that even though I started early, it's still very hard not to be dysphoric about many things... it's not all roses, and as you can see I got no breast or hip development. I get harassed and called pretty but it's not how I feel. https://imgur.com/a/6ryy0 ---> that's me and honestly I very much want FFS (I will delete these pics on the site later)

[elkie-t]

 Your body will continue to grow next 5 years or so, give it some time. And as previously suggested, yoga might help


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[Maybebaby56]

... it's not all roses, and as you can see I got no breast or hip development. I get harassed and called pretty but it's not how I feel.

No, you're right, it certainly isn't. I am not trying to minimize your dysphoria.  Well, okay, maybe I am.  Just a little. Being transgender sucks, and transition is not fun.  However, I just wanted to point out what you have going for you. I have been on HRT two years, and barely have an A cup. I have no hips to speak of, although losing weight has helped.

You are already pretty, and have a feminine voice. You are young enough that you will likely see your skeletal proportions change. Given time (and genetics) you will grow some boobs, and become curvier.  In fact, hip growth occurs well into old age.

Surprising Evidence of Pelvic Growth (Widening) after Skeletal Maturity
JOURNAL OF ORTHOPAEDIC RESEARCH NOVEMBER 2011
Published online 23 May 2011 in Wiley Online Library (wileyonlinelibrary.com). DOI 10.1002/jor.21469


ABSTRACT: Following an increase in length and width during childhood and adolescence, skeletal growth is generally assumed to stop. This study investigates the influence of aging on the dimensions of the pelvis and the L4 lumbar vertebra during adulthood. The dimensions of the pelvis, L4 vertebra, and femoral heads were calculated for 246 patients who had received pelvic and abdominal Computed Tomography scans from the UNC Health Care System. Linear regression analysis determined the significance of relation- ships between age and width of the pelvis. There was a strong correlation between increasing patient age and increasing width of the pelvis at the trochanters, (0.333 mm/year of age p<0.0001), at the iliac wings, (0.371 mm/year of age p < 0.0002), and between the femoral heads, indicating that the bony pelvis widens over 20 mm between the ages of 20 and 80. The pelvic inlet did not enlarge over time while the distance between the hips and the femoral head diameter did significantly increase. The height of L4 did not increase over time, but the L4 width did increase. These correlations were seen in both genders. Surprisingly, our results suggest that the pelvis and L4 vertebra increase in width after skeletal maturity and cessation of longitudinal growth.
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~Terri

[Legit]

If you want some experience about BBL and hips filling i can talk you about mine. I am 25 years old.   I had just like you concerns about my body because it wasnt that curvy  and i had hip dips( violin hips) .  Even if cisgender woman can have hip dips too, its just not feminine and i totally hated it.  I firstly thought that with HRT, my fat would distribute differently( according to girls here) and that i wouldnt need to worry about that but this isnt accurate.  Your fat will distribute differently with time but due to being exposed to Testosterone for years, it will never be perfect. What you gain to your stomatch will not reduce or slightly even after years on HRT . This means that if you decide to gain fat in order to have curvier body, you will end up with weird shape due to having to much fat going  to stomach.   


After gaining fat and realising it wouldnt solve the issue, i decided to try to increase muscle mass in this area. I however figured that in order to have a small waist, i would need to lose weight  but you cannot decide where you will lose fat.  General rule for this is you are losing on zone where you lastly gained fat  before losing where you really want to lose ..    Gaining fat   -   ABCDE    Losing fat -   EDCBA   .  Wich means that if you gain fat everywhere before gaining it to your hips ( Zone E in this exemple) You will most likely lose what you gained on hips before losing your belly fat  ... returning to starting point.   

This made me realise that i would never have the shape i wanted without surgery. This is why i did a brazilian butt lift  + hips filling  last april.  let me explain my experience.. its not 100% positive..   I saw a few surgeon here in canada before picking one.  What made me decide to go with her is she guaranteed me 80% of survivability of fat cells when others could only guarantee 40-60%.  She told me that she was the only one to have this new equipment that provide better result in canada. What she explained me made sense so i went with her.  paid the 11 500$ fees ( omg    )    She uses  VaserLipo with REVOLVE filters.      to be good candidate for this surgery, you must have fat to transfer.  If you have nothing on waist/lower back/ thight  etc.  then you shouldnt get this surgery because result will depend on this.  You must be willing to gain about 30-40 lbs for this surgery and forget about having a small waist for a long time.  You will also be swollen for up to 6 month after the surgery.

I did this surgery at the begining of april 2017,  let me tell you that this is one of the most invasive surgery i ever had  even after all FFS /BA / SRS i had.   It comes at rank 2 after SRS in my opinion.  The surgery was supposed to last about 3 hour but it took 5 hour and half  due to complication. She was used to do it with ciswoman but it was the first time with  transwoman.  She didnt expect hips zone to be so thin  ( skin elasticity) .  She had to stretch the skin with different method in order to create room for the fat  and she couldnt move as much as planned . She explained me that if she added more , what she transfered here could have died because it was to packed.  She said that it is not like that with cis woman and it was a surprise to her.   Anyway.  After the surgery i was soooooooooo proud of what she did .. However .. it didnt survive as expected.  The more days passed, the more it affected the result and i could see hips dips reappearing.  I was pissed and very dissapointed  so i called her and we booked a new consultation.  She said that she was very proud of overall result and she showed me some before/after picture she took and she was right.  It was a really big change.  However she understood my dissapointment because only about 30% did stay to hips  and maybe 60% on butt and she accepted to do a free revision but 5 month after surgery.  She asked me to gain as much fat (an extra 10 lbs or so)  as i can before the surgery date  and that she isnt worried about the result after the revision.  My surgery is planned last week of august.

So let me resume... in order to acchieve dream female body shape.  I have to go through TWO brazilian butt lift. 

4 week for exercising .
2 week for sex.
6 week for swelling/bruising to go down .
6 month for final result .
3 week wearing compressive body suit
3 week not allowed to sleep on side or on my back . I have to sleep on my chest all the time .
3 week unallowed to sit.

all that TWICE.

Im currently 3 month and 20 days post first surgery and i still have swelling . After the revision, i will have swelling for months again before i can have a normal waist.. so for those who says that having  BBL is the easy issue.. its not.. REALLY not an easy issue.  You still have to train and eat healthly after that to acchieve end goal.

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[jentay1367]

I am aware not all women are curvy. But I'm not sure why people here think that saying women are also this way that should be comforting. It's not comforting to me. I am sure if I was a genetic girl, people wouldn't say "oh don't worry there are tons of girls with that shape" or if I was fat.  It's just that it makes me feel less feminine and I'm sure many ggs feel the same about their shape if they have no curves.

Thank you, Dena and Julia1996, I will just focus on my face I guess. Lol just kidding. But yes, my butt has developed nquite nicely but since I have no hips, it makes me look a bit 'funny'. That's what annoys me.

Josie76 and Maybebaby56, I started HRT at 18. Before that I was very androgynous (no beard, fatty face, 5'5 height) and people often thought I was, albeit weird, girl who was dressed in male clothes. It was tough because I had to deal with a lot of harassment and second looks. I also have a really high voice so people would be even clueless when I spoke. Then I started HRT my face feminized but my body kept very lean so...yeah. I had no support from my parents til I changed my name at 19 but now they have been supportive. The thing that frustrates me is that even though I started early, it's still very hard not to be dysphoric about many things... it's not all roses, and as you can see I got no breast or hip development. I get harassed and called pretty but it's not how I feel. https://imgur.com/a/6ryy0 ---> that's me and honestly I very much want FFS (I will delete these pics on the site later)

It is truly ironic how our dysphoria works. You really are cute and tons of cis women would kill for your figure...boobs and all. I've seen tons of results from FFS that come nowhere near  accomplishing your god given face. I'm not belittling your concerns, I just think it's interesting to see what we can't see we look in the mirrors. I was thinking about this the other day and realized I am going to get nothing but older and in my case,  at 58, it's coming up fast. I need to learn to accept that fact and deal with it like all other women do or I'm going to waste what's left of my life chasing an idealized beauty I can never attain. What I really want is to have an actualized existence that isn't focused on my obsession with the mirror. Now I just have to get there.

[Dena]

I agree with Jentay. Your face is feminine and attractive. You have the body of a teen age girl and it's not done developing yet. My advice to you is save your money for GCS and call it good at that point. If that isn't acceptable to you then I would suggest you have a few sessions with a gender therapist. There is no reason why you need to be stuck for an extended time in transition mode when you could finish your transition and move on to living life. 

[FinallyMichelle]

I know how you feel. Ha, not the straight, my hips are pretty girly now. Not sexy girly, more muffin top. Course I am fat, it had to go somewhere, glad it went there. My neck, shoulders and back are still very muscular under the fat. Considering starving myself.

You honestly may be okay, the ride is not over yet after all. Unfortunately surgery may be the only option if you don't fill out. I have a friend that struggles with the same thing and she has been on HRT since 2003. I don't know the different surgery procedures so can't be much help there.

I know it's not a comfort, but every one of my friends have something about themselves they hate and want to change. I am guessing that it is kinda standard. Most of them are cis girls and it's not the same really, we have so many things it seems. We may luck out on one or two, but what are the odds that everything is perfect?

This is stupid advice and I hate giving it but:
Change what you can if possible, spare no effort. Be who YOU want to be. Let go of the rest. It seems to me that change it, accept it or live in misery are our options. So surgery would be my guess if time doesn't fill out your hips. Wow, that was a lot of words to say very little.

Relax, You are going to be fine.

Michelle

[jentay1367]

I get to start out as some fading middle-aged bitch - and I consider myself very lucky!  I am thrilled to have that opportunity! 

Amen to that, Sister!! Course, as middle age bitches go, you're absolutely rockin' it!   

[RobynD]

You do have a great figure, although i know that is hard to absorb when you are feeling dysphoria.

I like what Deborah said about fat redistribution and exercising those fat cells. I have had considerable fat redistribution to my breasts, butt and hips but i started older and not as petite as you.

Another thing that seemed to work for me in changing my body faster was and is to seesaw weight gain and loss, gain and lose the same 5 pounds over and over again. It is just my theory, but for me it seems to work in getting the body to do its redistribution thing in a female pattern.

[echo7]

Another thing that seemed to work for me in changing my body faster was and is to seesaw weight gain and loss, gain and lose the same 5 pounds over and over again. It is just my theory, but for me it seems to work in getting the body to do its redistribution thing in a female pattern.

This worked for me as well.  It may or may not work for you, but it's certainly worth trying.