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Trump announces ban on transgender people in U.S. military

Started by Ashley3, July 26, 2017, 08:30:10 AM

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Raell

LOL Sydney!

I just tweeted those, and related links, on Facebook/Twiter.
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Stevie


So does this mean being trans exempts you from draft registration?
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Michelle_P

Quote from: Stevie on July 26, 2017, 10:54:42 PM
So does this mean being trans exempts you from draft registration?

No.  You'll still need to register. 

You'll have to read past the usual massive government misgendering.

Under current law, all male U.S. citizens between 18–25 years are required to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. In addition, non-U.S.-citizen men between the ages of 18 and 25 (inclusive) living in the United States must register.  Women as well as female-to-male transgender individuals who identify as male or have had sexual reassignment surgery are not required to register.

Address changes and other questions on the SSA:
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How does the Military Selective Service Act apply to individuals who have had a sex change?
Individuals who are born female and have a sex change are not required to register. U.S. citizens or immigrants who are born male and have a sex change are still required to register. In the event of a resumption of the draft, males who have had a sex change can file a claim for an exemption from military service if they receive an order to report for examination or induction.
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My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
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JulieOnHerWay

A couple of points to ponder.
First the Orange Orangutan uses twitter to distract.  He uses it to control the daily news cycle with no intent to set policy.  So more than likely he is already in his self-centered manipulative mind on to how to distract for tomorrow with no thought to implementing his rash crap-o-the-day.  This is really sad, but he is who you voted for.  A vain small-minded ego-manic to be the (former) leader of the free world.  Down we slid to banana republic status. 
As an aside, i heard that this AM the Pentagon was on high alert today when they thought the Orange one had ordered a preemptive attack on N Korea. This is something to worry about.
Second, while if I was still active duty I would be concerned, it takes policy from DOD to make things happen not a tweet even from the CIC.  And they do not do policy via twitter or even rashly.  So over a beer at enlisted club I would get over it and go about my duties.
Third, if it actually occurs there will be a transition period.  No one will be pulled from the morning ranks and booted out with a dishonorable before lunch.  Even if they force active duty out, it will be honorable.  AND, every civil rights and LGBTQ organization will go to bat for active duty LGBTQ in court.  This will tie up the DOD for years while the outed active duty continue on with what they were doing the day before.
Fourth.  There is serious talk about his mental state.  Serious.  In Congress.  In the Administration.  He will not be President in a year.  Probably sooner.  And the brass in the Pentagon will have options for not starting a war for him to do the ultimate control of the news cycle.  May deny him a place on Mt. Rushmore though.
Legislation on bathrooms are more immediate than his tweets.
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Mile High Sean

Please know that you have allies and we stand with you. This is another offense in a long line of offenses you have endured. I hope these are the last gasps of a hateful dying culture. Your allies want you to be happy, healthy and to THRIVE! We will always be there when you need us. We love and support you always!
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Michelle_P

Quote from: Mile High Sean on July 27, 2017, 12:54:23 AM
Please know that you have allies and we stand with you. This is another offense in a long line of offenses you have endured. I hope these are the last gasps of a hateful dying culture. Your allies want you to be happy, healthy and to THRIVE! We will always be there when you need us. We love and support you always!


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Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
Michelle's personal blog and biography
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laurenb

Just wanted to say that I'm so saddened by this. I didn't serve but I honor those that do and did. My heart goes out to those who are in there now trying to figure out what to do. The political motives are obvious yes. Moreover though, I'm convinced, Trump's just an idiot or is IQ challenged. He hasn't the capacity to think anything through with any depth. He's probably functionally illiterate and has severe attention deficit issues. He's impulsive and reactive. Narcissistic. While this issue is at the top of our list, the list itself is enormous ... climate change denial and ignorance, (anti-)health care, aligning with autocrats, forsaking our allies, forgetting that immigrants are the basis of our country, blatant conflicts of interest, nepotism... it goes on. I'll never understand why people consistently vote against their own best interests and the best interest of the commons and all people. Really? WTF. I want to say Canada is looking better all the time but I'm still an American.
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AnneK

Quote from: laurenb on July 27, 2017, 05:58:46 AM
Just wanted to say that I'm so saddened by this. I didn't serve but I honor those that do and did. My heart goes out to those who are in there now trying to figure out what to do. The political motives are obvious yes. Moreover though, I'm convinced, Trump's just an idiot or is IQ challenged. He hasn't the capacity to think anything through with any depth. He's probably functionally illiterate and has severe attention deficit issues. He's impulsive and reactive. Narcissistic. While this issue is at the top of our list, the list itself is enormous ... climate change denial and ignorance, (anti-)health care, aligning with autocrats, forsaking our allies, forgetting that immigrants are the basis of our country, blatant conflicts of interest, nepotism... it goes on. I'll never understand why people consistently vote against their own best interests and the best interest of the commons and all people. Really? WTF. I want to say Canada is looking better all the time but I'm still an American.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/07/31/is-donald-trump-ok-erratic-behaviour-raises-mental-health-questions.html
I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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bubbles21

Of course you agree, and this confirms his dog whistle reached his base and distracted them again.

Trump's incompetence in passing legislation is shameful, just like his tweeting to distract from what's really going on.

Have you asked all trans military people whether they join just to have their surgery and hrt paid for? or is that something you saw in 'reality'?   

Quote from: cheryl reeves on July 26, 2017, 04:04:43 PM
I kinda agree on this because the cost of a Transgender is more then a cis person, Transgender just want to join and let the tax payers pay for their hrt and srt. This all boils down to money,money which the govt doesn't really have.  Let me ask this would anyone on this board be willing to pay for my transition without me putting any money into it?  I know I've been classified as a bigot because I see reality.
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Cindy

Locked for clean up.

It saddens me when people fall into the same place as those they are criticising.

Trading insults does not change the world, a person's opinion or advance a cause.

It just identifies you with the same ethic as those you oppose.
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