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Just watched something horrible ... is there a safety "best practices" thread?

Started by Sinclair, July 27, 2017, 09:27:45 PM

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Sinclair

This is an older story (2002) that many of you are likely aware of, but I never saw any shows about it, even though there was a movie, until tonight. On the ID channel they ran the story of Gwen Araujo. She was transgendered and on hormones, but still had her male "package." She was a teenager that liked to party, club, meet new people etc. However, she took risks that I think should be addressed by the community to help prevent such tragedies.

I don't know if any organization has come up with a safety best practices, but I'm familiar with doing it the corporate world.

I'll post links to the show and wiki page.

Bottom line is that show disturbed me greatly, and I wish I could have been there to save her.

I'm not blaming her in any way, she was just a teen, honestly just being a teen. But we have to be more careful.

IMO, some basic safety rules would include not engaging (sex) with cis-male strangers that are unaware of your status. Network with people with known status in a safe place. Craigslist is not a safe place, for example. Don't present female and hope your "surprise" will be well received. Just a couple of things there that would have probably saved her life.

Watching that episode made me literally tear up. So sad.

The episode is called "Murder Party."

The series is "Murder Among Friends."

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/murder-among-friends/

The Wiki is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gwen_Araujo

To all, be safe!



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CatherineVeraGat

That makes me sad what happen to her. There were ways to avoid this. 

I'm not blaming her for this. I really do think that their should be organizations that has some of the best safety practices and some basic things to know before you do the things that you want to do.


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elkie-t

Not relevant to the story, more on safety.

a) don't invite strangers to your house (on CL or otherwise) and don't go to a stranger house to meet for the first time. Meet at a safe bar or other safe public place where you can spend time talking to the person and be seen by others. If you decide to proceed to your home afterwards, don't tell your home address, just tell him 'follow me'. On another hand, if you decide to go to his house, ask for an address (just in case) and text it to a trusted friend.

b) avoid empty places, especially when dark (but during daylight too). Go walking where's public (even if you aren't yet sure of your looks). Approaching your car have keys ready in hand (make sure no one is too close), lock the car once inside. Have a pepper spray on a key chain.

c) yes, if you are pre-op but very passable, and plan to have a sex with a male, better let him know you are pre-op before you're alone with him (just in case).

d) have a reliable car and AAA (you don't want your car broken in a bad part of town with no help on the way).

e) be smart, don't do stupid things, don't be reckless

Said Elkie who failed all of her advice (at least once), but wouldn't do it again
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Sinclair

Thank you for adding some safety points elkie-t.

Perhaps we can make a safety best practices for at least us here.

EDIT: my 200th post is about keeping us safe. I like that.  :police:

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Devlyn

Completely agree that expecting your "surprise" to go over well is a dumb move. I also believe in caution, but I met a great guy on Craigslist, we were together for two years and we're still friends. I've met bigger jerks on mainstream sites to be honest. It comes down to who you meet, not the site you met them on.

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Sinclair

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on July 28, 2017, 05:39:50 AM
Completely agree that expecting your "surprise" to go over well is a dumb move. I also believe in caution, but I met a great guy on Craigslist, we were together for two years and we're still friends. I've met bigger jerks on mainstream sites to be honest. It comes down to who you meet, not the site you met them on.

Hugs, Devlyn

Dev, you're a vet, I'm sure you followed common sense rules to meet your friend on CL.  :icon_chick:

Some people do not. They trust too much a stranger via internet/text messages and end up in a hotel room, or their house, alone and vulnerable.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/01/11/think-twice-before-answering-that-ad-101-killers-have-found-victims-on-craigslist/



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Devlyn

I won't argue about following standard safety protocols, everyone needs to minimize their risk.

Hugs, Devlyn
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Julia1996

I agree that you should never try to do anything sexual with a guy who doesn't know. I tell a guy right up front before we do anything. Just making out with a guy who doesn't know you're trans is dangerous. He might get upset because he was kissing you. Guys are unpredictable.  Especially young ones. They say the most dangerous woman is a mother protecting her child. The most dangerous guy is one who's protecting his masculinity. 
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