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Question about the history of labels

Started by widdershins, August 27, 2017, 07:15:46 PM

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widdershins

So, it's pretty clear that some people are mostly attracted to gender expression and some people are mostly attracted to physical characteristics. And I...honestly don't see what wrong with that? But it seems like so many people of either side of the debate completely lose it if you say the other type of preference is valid, and I don't understand why. Is it all just a fight over who gets to label themselves as lesbian or gay as opposed to bi/pan, or is there something deeper that I'm missing?

To be clear, I get why radical feminists saying trans women aren't women and trying to exclude trans women from women's spaces is bad. People are the gender they identify as, regardless of their genitals. But I don't get why so many people act like it's a cardinal sin for, e.g., me as a trans person to admit I prefer dick regardless of the gender of the person the dick is attached to. Or for sexual assault victims to say they don't want to date someone with a penis because of the trauma. As long as you aren't misgendering someone, what does it matter?

I'm not trying to be hostile or start a debate here. I'm just really confused and feel like there's probably some historical issue in the LGBT community that I'm not aware of.
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Gertrude

I don't get radical feminists like Germaine Greer and some folks are way out of date with labels. I work with a born again that uses a dating app on his phone and one day he shows me a picture of a woman and tells me that she looks like a ->-bleeped-<-. What he meant was transgender/transsexual, but I chalked it up to him being an anachronistic idiot. I would ask someone what they prefer if I wasn't sure/didn't know and I'd be open to being corrected. As far as anything else goes, it's none of my business and it doesn't matter to me.


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