Dr. John O'Dea Experiences/His "Pink Panther" Hormone Cocktail

[MsAllannah1!]

Hi....I am desperately hoping this gets read by someone who can help. I am considering going to Dr. John O'Dea in Marina Del Rey for my hormone therapy and using his pellet method, the most aggressive that he has. His office said he also offers a "hormone cocktail" called "Pink Panther" that they say really stimulates boob growth (rounds them out more, etc.) I am in my 50s so I'm not sure if anything will have any effect on me. Plus, it's hugely expensive.

So, I'd love to hear from anyone who has seen Dr. O'Dea to hear your experiences. Also, I'd love to know if anyone my age has tried pellets and how they worked. Finally, if you've seen Dr. O'Dea and tried the hormone cocktail, what was your experience like? Please let me know when you can as I want to schedule this....just need to be sure. Thanks!

[KathyLauren]

Hi, Allannah.  Welcome to Susan's!

I don't know anything about that doctor or his hormone cocktail.  However, I am 62, started HRT 7 months ago, and I am getting good breast development.  Sure, I'd like them to be growing faster, but I can't really complain.  They look good.  I am on plain Estradiol and Spiro.

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[MsAllannah1!]

Thank yoU! I really appreciate it. I was taking a shot in the dark hoping someone might know of Dr. O'Dea or his "cocktail." It's good to know that I can still get some changes at my age. I don't expect a lot, but as long as at least I can see and feel something happening, that's important. Thanks again and if you have any advice on where else I might be able to find anyone who has gone to him - I know he's very popular - please let me know if you get a chance!

[Nora Kayte]

Hi....I am desperately hoping this gets read by someone who can help. I am considering going to Dr. John O'Dea in Marina Del Rey for my hormone therapy and using his pellet method, the most aggressive that he has. His office said he also offers a "hormone cocktail" called "Pink Panther" that they say really stimulates boob growth (rounds them out more, etc.) I am in my 50s so I'm not sure if anything will have any effect on me. Plus, it's hugely expensive.

So, I'd love to hear from anyone who has seen Dr. O'Dea to hear your experiences. Also, I'd love to know if anyone my age has tried pellets and how they worked. Finally, if you've seen Dr. O'Dea and tried the hormone cocktail, what was your experience like? Please let me know when you can as I want to schedule this....just need to be sure. Thanks!

I did my research and I was going to go to him.  Then I found my current doctor. And she is going to be starting my friend on Pellets. At least its sound like it. I went on pellets 2 months after I started injections. I had to start with injections because I quit once before and she wanted to make sure I was going to stick with it.

My opinion is my doctor knows her shiznit. I mentioned dr Odea and but I don't remember honestly what she said about him. But what ever it was she convinced me I would get the same results. And I was pretty much set on going to Dr odea. If you want my doctors contact info. She is in Buena Park. So let me know if that's doable and I will get you her info. As you know everybody is different. But I am at a full B Cup a year in. They just last month went from a little pointy to filling out like they are supposed to. You know. I don't know how to explain. But they look like boobs are supposed to now. And they are still growing. They started growing when I started hrt and they keep growing. And won't stop. I was hoping to not do all the growth so fast. So I can hide for a while. I'm not out and trying not to for a while. But no I am a guy with noticeable boobs. And depending on the bra. Very noticeable. Oh and I am 50 my friend is 47 and she is  starting I think Monday. So to some it up. He is good at what he does. He does a great job. That's why I was seriously think of him. Ok to some it up. Let try one more time. I am 50 with good boob growth. No signs of stopping. I am on spironolactone, Estradiol Pellets and Progesterone. My tolerance for anything is high. So I was expecting nothing at normal female dosages. But I am very happy. I don't think anybody could have done better with me. And my doctor is sweet and cares about me. And the last I researched Dr Odea. The last person said they could not get ahold of him for a while then did. And I heard some major things were going on with him. Hopefully I'm wrong or he has them all taken care of. But if my doctor did not exist I would be at his door. Not many do Pellets in socal. Only Dr Odea and my Doctor did pellets and specialized in trans patients. When I did my initial research. And I won't settle for anything but pellets.


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[Dani]

All changes to our bodies are due to the hormones and anti-androgens in our body. The delivery system is secondary. Yes pellets are very effective and you do not need to remember to take them. They just work for a period of time and then you replace them. I do not know what this cocktail of Dr O'Dea is. Unless the hormones used are disclosed, I would be skeptical.

Hormones are not the only factor in breast growth. Some of us ladies have big breasts and others not so big. After typical female estrogen blood levels, genetics and some degree of obesity determine our eventual breast size.

[Nora Kayte]

Thank yoU! I really appreciate it. I was taking a shot in the dark hoping someone might know of Dr. O'Dea or his "cocktail." It's good to know that I can still get some changes at my age. I don't expect a lot, but as long as at least I can see and feel something happening, that's important. Thanks again and if you have any advice on where else I might be able to find anyone who has gone to him - I know he's very popular - please let me know if you get a chance!

There was a girl named Jenny I think when I started on Susan's years ago. She was my idle. She is exactly what I want to be but know I never will. Recently found her in my surgery doctor app. Forgot the name. I'll look. If you can find her story. You will be floored. But she was an Odea girl. She is why I was going to go to him. I'll look for her if you want. I think she is still around here too. But I don't think you can go wrong results wise. But I rather have someone like mine.


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[MsAllannah1!]

Wow! Thank you all for your answers. I am new and can't figure out how to answer individually so it has to be this group message for now. First, I am in the San Fernando Valley and while Buena Park isn't close, I can definitely get there. And given all that everyone is saying about O'Dea, maybe it's good not to go and find someone else. I just want someone who can help me achieve good results at my age, and I know I want progesterone as I hear that is what helps boobs really fill out. The nurse I spoke to with O'Dea did a great sales job, especially the mention of the progesterone-laced Pink Panther cocktail.

It's also good to know that someone in late 50s might see some results. Have you seen more differences than just boobs? Butt? Hips? Face? Reduction in body hair or more hair growth on your head? Sorry to inundate with questions but I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.....even if I don't transition and just do hormones. Would you all say you're happy having decided to do hormones and that no matter what, no matter how slight the changes, you feel better even seeing small boobs or little fat shifting on your body?

Thanks and please please please tell me everything! Including the Buena Park info....that doctor does believe in progesterone?

[MsAllannah1!]

And yes, if you find Jenny's story, I'd love to hear it.

[Nora Kayte]

And yes, if you find Jenny's story, I'd love to hear it.

Ok I'll answer this one first. Back when I was just lurking I came across Jennygirl less than a year into her transition. She has done a lot since. But I started following her journey when the only she did was start hrt. That How I found her. I was researching pellets. So if you want to see her story you can do some homework. I found her again on this site and just added her to my buddie list. So if you go to my profile you can go to hers and read her posts from the start. Also the app I saw her in again was RealSelf. And her name is not the same. It's  Jennygirlinla. She is why I almost went to Odea. I can try to post a screenshot of it later. Her realself profile.

[MsAllannah1!]

Thanks! I tried to check out your profile but must have done it wrong. Kept getting a message saying I didn't have access. I'll try to find Jenny through RealSelf but please do post a shot of her if you can. Thanks again! And I'm hoping that somehow, someone who knows about O'Dea or the effect of pellets on old folks like me will answer.

[Nora Kayte]

Wow! Thank you all for your answers. I am new and can't figure out how to answer individually so it has to be this group message for now. First, I am in the San Fernando Valley and while Buena Park isn't close, I can definitely get there. And given all that everyone is saying about O'Dea, maybe it's good not to go and find someone else. I just want someone who can help me achieve good results at my age, and I know I want progesterone as I hear that is what helps boobs really fill out. The nurse I spoke to with O'Dea did a great sales job, especially the mention of the progesterone-laced Pink Panther cocktail.

It's also good to know that someone in late 50s might see some results. Have you seen more differences than just boobs? Butt? Hips? Face? Reduction in body hair or more hair growth on your head? Sorry to inundate with questions but I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.....even if I don't transition and just do hormones. Would you all say you're happy having decided to do hormones and that no matter what, no matter how slight the changes, you feel better even seeing small boobs or little fat shifting on your body?

Thanks and please please please tell me everything! Including the Buena Park info....that doctor does believe in progesterone?

My wife says I have a butt now. Nothing fits now. So the hips must be changing too. I was all bald. To skin on top. I have fuzz now. Not thick. But not bald anymore. Big reduction in body hair in some places. Had a lot on the back and had it waxed after I started hrt and I have no black hairs on my back. Just unnoticeable clear hairs. My super hairy arm hair is the same way as my back with occasional epilator. I think once I electrolysis my neck and face I could be good with the rest of my body. Maybe some lower torso and genitals. As far as my face I suck at seeing that. I've had comments so I'm sure it's changed. And yes this doctor uses Progesterone. If I can message you I'll send her info to you. If I can't it's Dr Vi at metamorphosis center. I'll get full name if you can't find with google.

[LizK]

Thanks! I tried to check out your profile but must have done it wrong. Kept getting a message saying I didn't have access. I'll try to find Jenny through RealSelf but please do post a shot of her if you can. Thanks again! And I'm hoping that somehow, someone who knows about O'Dea or the effect of pellets on old folks like me will answer.

Hi MsAllannah

You need to have made 15 quality posts before you are able to PM other members. If you have a look at the links you were sent by Kathy it will give you the run down. 

[Nora Kayte]

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[Nora Kayte]

And if you click on the biodetical hormones on the main page it takes you here.


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[Nora Kayte]

Hope this all helps if it's ok to post this stuff. Lol


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[MsAllannah1!]

Thanks again everyone! Still need to learn how to answer individually.....And thanks for the Buena Park info. I did find her via Google. She does implants and progesterone? And will work with somebody as old as me? That's great. I just need to get whatever money together that I can because I know it's not cheap. Good to know you're happy with the results. Getting butt growth and facial change others notice is a great thing. And I have heard progesterone helps a lot with boobs so I'm assuming you're happy with where you're at there.....Thank you all again for showing me such kindness..

[Nora Kayte]

Depends on you. Everything is monitored but my pellets last for 4 months and it's $425 so 4 months for pellets at that price. I get 300 back from my insurance. And its 38 and 48 for the P and S a month but my insurance pays all those. So I got a good out of pocket for each month.


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[Nora Kayte]

Depends on you. Everything is monitored but my pellets last for 4 months and it's $425 so 4 months for pellets at that price. I get 300 back from my insurance. And its 38 and 48 for the P and S a month but my insurance pays all those. So I got a good out of pocket for each month.


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Oh and the pellets are a 4-6 month thing. I only last 4 others 6. And I am very happy with the boobs. And don't hesitate to ask if you need to talk or anything else once you have 15 posts. Lol


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[BlueJaye]

I know nothing about the doctor, but anything called "cocktail" that's named after a cartoon character is something I would be very careful about.

[MsAllannah1!]

I agree that "Pink Panther" isn't necessarily a good name for something going in my body. Sounds like a hallucinogenic drug from the '70s. But it does sound like it really does the job....that's why I'm torn.

And Norma, thanks for sharing re: your pellets. That really does seem like the best way to go. I like the idea of having a regular distribution of hormones and, also, I hate shots! Now I just need to find the money. Just curious.....how long did it take to start feeling like anything was happening? Especially with the progesterone? I had read a couple of people saying that the progesterone worked very quickly and they could feel their nipples change almost right away.