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Reactions of people after they hear you speak and hear "male", and other fears

Started by gg, September 09, 2017, 02:13:36 AM

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summer710

I've had two major clocked-out experiences (and a few minor) - the first major clock was when I was ordering some donuts at a Dunkin.  Waiting in line I was called up 'next - miss, what would you like?'  After placing my order the cashier (woman) screamed out - 'Oh my gawd - you're a dude?!?!?!  That's a dude!!!  I am so sorry, I thought you was [sic] a woman, but you a dude.'  Of course by then, everyone in the store was staring at me.  All the time they were getting my food, she kept on talking to herself or back to her crew - 'my gawd that's a dude, but he looks like a woman, damn'.

The second experience was also in another Coffee/donut shop (i like donuts!) - again - initially gendered as straight-up female ("miss"), placed my order, then while waiting, asked another employee for the bathroom door code.  He initially gendered me as female, but after I asked for the code, gave me this confused, raised eyebrow look and said - they're being cleaned.  You can't use them."  [and nobody was cleaning them, and others were given the access codes earlier]

Both of these were in NYC - first experience with the woman was in East Village.   I did notice the other customers staring and whispering - the female customers seemed to understand "what I was" and some made direct eye contact with me then threw some 'OMG side-eye at the cashier' [silent support - I'll take it].  Second experience was in Lower Manhattan.  At no point did I feel physically threatened - at most, I felt excluded from the space but moved on.  I just kind of shrugged off the negative juju - in a sense - taking them as compliments (?).  I don't particularly dress like a stereotypic, magazine female (whatever that means) - no makeup, t-shirt and sweatpants rolled to my knee; messy, tragic hair shoved under a baseball cap...I perpetually look like I'm off to work-out or dance class.  My voice is typical male baritone.  Both those experiences I was tired and didn't even attempt a vocal shift.  Most of the time (and have since avoided further confrontational clockings) - I just shift to an 'up too late screaming at the concert' raspy voice, and it seems to work well enough to avoid confrontation.
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Stevie

Quote from: Soli on September 10, 2017, 07:31:51 AM
oh nooo, children are the best, not the worst, plz don't say that, I love children, AND all of their questions, they're not fake and I love that. Sorry I just couldn't let this be said like that. Our own lives are not much, children are us.  :)

  The kid gendered me as female from my appearance which was affirming, calling me on my voice hurt a little at the time but made me work harder so it was helpful in the end.  I love kids too, teenagers not so much.
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HappyMoni

I have brought my voice as high as I can comfortably speak. I find for quick exchanges it is okay. Talking for longer periods, I think I am pretty obvious. No one has been reactive to it in any way. People are gonna say what ...? I don't know what I would say in that position. They may change there thought pattern about you but most everyone is nice about it. I know I don't generally pass because I get sir'ed on the phone. I noticed that the better I know someone, the more I can relax into a more feminine intonation. If I talk in a more pressured situation, I tense up and sound more masculine. It has been a process allowing myself to be feminine in public. Fourteen months full time, I got it. The voice, for some reason, I still can't seem to let go and sound more feminine. Part of it (no offense meant) is it is a fear of sounding like an effeminate man. Nothing wrong with that except it isn't what I am.
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Alanna1990

My dears, this was very helpful to me, so much that I can talk to anybody and they'll never know, when I had my first interview with the principal from my school, she was completely unaware about my condition until she read my legal name, she was extremely surprised, so I can confirm this works.

http://www.looking-glass.greenend.org.uk/voice.htm

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DawnOday

Speech training by Sandy Hirsch along with many other useful presentations.  This is a power point presentation.  You will need flash player unless you download it as a powerpoint presentation. Sandy Hirsch was one of the professional presenters at Gender Odyssey and will be giving another presentation at the CPath conference in Vancouver BC. 

http://www.powershow.com/view/62269-MTU0N/The_Transsexual_Voice_powerpoint_ppt_presentation
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Soli

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Sarah_P

Quote from: meganjames2 on September 09, 2017, 04:21:45 AM
I try my best to use my 'head'  voice,  but my pitch drops over time and I have to keep consciously lift it back up.

This is the problem I have. Especially if I'm just talking to friends or family. If I'm speaking to strangers, I've (almost) always managed to keep the pitch up.
My voice is a major source of my dysphoria these days, and it really bothers me having to sound at least moderately male on work days. I think what others said is correct - if you have to go back & forth, it is much harder to find your voice when you need it.
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Megan.

I have had a few voice modification lessons with an expert in this area. Introducing brief pauses into a sentence can give you a mental cue to bring the pitch back up.

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