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Pelosi Urged to Condemn Open-Air SF Sex Fair

Started by LostInTime, December 06, 2007, 07:31:51 AM

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LostInTime

Pelosi Urged to Condemn Open-Air SF Sex Fair
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200712/POL20071206a.html
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor

Also calling on Pelosi to condemn the sadomasochism fair was Grace Harley of Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays (PFOX), an African-American and self-described "former transgender person" who said she was "holding back tears" after seeing video from the DVD of an African-American woman whose mouth was bridled like a horse.

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OMG, a pony girl upset her? I also noticed in the article that they railed against a Master having a leash to a slave's collar. Me, I just think to myself, what a lucky slave.
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Suzy

There seems to be a lot going on here.  I'm as pretty big supporter of people doing whatever they want to do in a consensual way.  And I must confess that I really don't know anything about this fair.  But if it is true that this is talking place out on the street, in public, with children present, then it needs to be reigned in.  Sorry, but let the interested people rent some place where they can do whatever they want, out of the view of both children and others (like Harley) who seem to get their jollies by filming, watching, and distributing this material.

Kristi
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LostInTime

Considering the source, it is probably blown way out of proportion.
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tekla

I work the FSF every year, in my best little girl clothes of course, its the only place I can do that "schoolgirls in disgrace" look and get away with it.  I set the stages and sound-systems, and I work in the tents selling beer and water for groups I support.  All the money raised is given to charity.

First, whatever they say about the FSF is true.  Its way over the top, the most amazing thing I've ever seen in public.  Its one of a number of such events including the HowWeird Fest, and the Love Parade that don't just push the limits of common decency, they pretty much ignore them wholecloth.  Where HowWeird and Love Parade are about dance culture, and you do have plenty of kids at those events (not children, but teenagers) FSF is about the Leather Community and all that encompasses.  While I sure prefer to be with the KlubKids, and girls barely dressed with glitter all over more than big hairy guys in ass-less chaps, to each their own.

Having said that....

The blocks of the street that are used are blocked off - and you are expected to pay $5 to get it, with the money going to community projects. (2007 FSF gave a whopping $350,066 to such groups - is PFOX going to cut a check to replace that money?  Didn't think so.)  Folsom Street is in the middle of the in the warehouse district and the location of lots of gay leather bars, its not like this is in a residential neighborhood.  There are no schools there, and I have never seen children there ever.  And, for the record, San Francisco has the lowest amount of children per capita of any U.S. city.

This is San Francisco, if you don't like it, don't go to it, don't even come here in the first place.  And for sure, you have my blessing when it comes to not having one in your town. 

But.... are there groups of people from San Francisco coming to your town and telling you what and how to do things?  Let me know and I will make them stop.  But, assuming there are not hordes for us going to your town and telling you what to do, where does anyone get off coming to our town, where they do not live, work, pay taxes, vote etc. and tell us what to do and how to do it?

What ever happened to the "land of the free"?  No one to my understanding has ever been forced to go the the FSF.  And, as for renting a space, there is simply not one big enough (it runs about five/six blocks), besides, part of the FSF is that is is outdoors, in the sun, right there in front of god and everyone. 

Look, if we wanted some bland middle-class existence we all would have stayed in Omaha or Des Moines.  But since its founding, SF has been a very wild place.  Back in the 1880s-90s the Barbary Coast was known as 'the wickedest place on earth."  Since the 1940s its been a huge gay and lesbian town, one of the first to have an openly gay district.  It was home to the Beats, the hippies, home of the Love-In, and later, setting to some of the first raves in the USA.  It has its own art movement, and the San Francisco Sound, and later a huge punk movement.  Also, its the financial and banking HQ for the Pacific Rim, home to piles of major corporations, the investment center for Silicone Valley, ground zero for the first explosion of dot.coms, a major retail center and one of the world's top tourist destination.  That its pretty much Disneyland for TGs is also part of who we are.

People live in SF because they want to.

Moreover, this is just a bunch of election year grandstanding and a cheep attempt to raise more money.  Someone ought to tell PFOX (odd, how they use that FOX deal that is also the network of the conservative movement) that Miss Nancy is a Congressperson, not the mayor, and as such, has little to no control over the events in SF - not to mention that the people of SF would much rather have her do her job in Congress and not run SF.

And, for the record, I'm so sick of the "oh the children" deal.  If your worried about your kids, try parenting them.  Its not my responsibility to make everything in the world safe and sanitized so that people who want kids as some sort of status symbol but are somehow loathe to spend the time in being a parent have a safe place to raise them.  As a matter of fact, I moved from SF to Iowa to raise my kids, for just that reason.  Once raised, I moved back.

I'm sure - matter of fact I know it as a fact - that the day after FSF most of those people are back at their desks in the law firms or banks, after all, a pony girl outfit, or a full leather catsuit are not cheap.

You can google Folsom Street Fair, or go to FolsomStreetEvents and find plenty of pictures.  Its might not be for everyone, but if you look close a the pictures you will not find any children (the red herring charge). 
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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tekla

And if they keep it up, we're going to have to give them a spanking.

ZOOT:  Oh, I am afraid our life must seem very dull and quiet compared
      to yours.  We are but eight score young blondes and brunettes, all between
      sixteen and nineteen and a half, cut off in this castle with no one to
      protect us!  Oh, it is a lonely life -- bathing, dressing, undressing,
      making exciting underwear....  We are just not used to handsome knights....

DINGO:  Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Zoot!  Oh, she is a naughty
      person, and she must pay the penalty -- and here in Castle Anthrax, we
      have but one punishment for setting alight the grail-shaped beacon.  You
      must tie her down on a bed and spank her!
  GIRLS:  A spanking!  A spanking!
  DINGO:  You must spank her well.  And after you have spanked her, you
      may deal with her as you like.  And then, spank me.
  VARIOUS GIRLS:  And spank me.
      And me.
      And me.
  DINGO:  Yes, yes, you must give us all a good spanking!
  GIRLS:  A spanking!  A spanking!
  DINGO:  And after the spanking,.......

well, you can look up the rest yourself.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Suzy

Now tekla,

Next time please tell us how you really feel.  Stop beating around the bush, OK?      (oops, another of those bad puns)

Thanks for a firsthand account.

Kristi
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LostInTime

I really have to try and get out there for this one year. :)
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Shana A

"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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tekla

What bothers me - aside from the fact that these are outsiders - is that they are not telling the truth.

CNS News - Founded by L. Brent Bozell III, called Cybercast News because they could not trademark the term Conservative News Service, the top staff includes a past director of radio media for the National Republican Party, and a past campaign manager for Pat Robertson's failed presidential campaign.

Grace Harley, funny most of the time its REVEREND Grace Harley
Rev. J. Grace Harley
Jesus is the Answer
World Wide Healing Ministry International, Silver Springs Maryland

Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays - A Protestant ministry dedicated to anti-homosexual rants.  Run as a 501(c) out of Fort Belvoir Virginia

Americans for Truth, a newly reorganized national organization devoted exclusively to exposing and countering the homosexual activist agenda (direct cut and paste from their web site) out of Naperville, Ill.

The third group, well again a cut and paste from their web site.
CWA (Conserend Women of America) is built on prayer and action.

We are the nation's largest public policy women's organization with a rich 28-year history of helping our members across the country bring Biblical principles into all levels of public policy.

What We Do

We help people focus on six core issues, which we have determined need Biblical principles most and where we can have the greatest impact. At its root, each of these issues is a battle over worldviews.

We have several active departments in our national office in Washington, D.C.

CWA is a unique blend of policy experts and an activist network of people in small towns and big cities across the country working to address mutually held goals and concerns. Meet the CWA spokespersons. CWA works with many other groups around the country. Find these and other sources of information on our links page.

Mission Statement

The mission of CWA is to protect and promote Biblical values among all citizens - first through prayer, then education, and finally by influencing our society - thereby reversing the decline in moral values in our nation.

Vision Statement

The vision of CWA is for women and like-minded men, from all walks of life, to come together and restore the family to its traditional purpose and thereby allow each member of the family to realize their God-given potential and be more responsible citizens.

Statement of Faith

    * We believe the Bible to be the verbally inspired, inerrant Word of God and the final authority on faith and practice.

    * We believe Jesus Christ is the divine Son of God, was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, died a sacrificial death, rose bodily from the dead on the third day and ascended into Heaven from where He will come again to receive all believers unto Himself.

    * We believe all men are fallen creations of Adam's race and in need of salvation by grace through personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    * We believe it is our duty to serve God to the best of our ability and to pray for a moral and spiritual revival that will return this nation to the traditional values upon which it was founded.


Yikes!  So what do we have?  A bunch of fundamentalist front groups, all with tax-exempt status, doing what they always do, using scare tactics to raise more money for themselves.  Even if it is "liberal tolerance run amok in San Francisco" is that not SF's problem, and not a problem for people in Maryland, Virgina, and Naperville?  Moreover, a little civics lesson, as Miss Nancy has never gone to this as far as I know (and most of the people I know avoid it like the plague) and is an elected official of the federal government, and has such has no power to do anything about it.  But, she makes great copy in an election year, particularly an election year which all the polls have these folks getting spanked big time at the ballot boxes.  Moreover, these people went to the fair and took pictures and posted them on a web site so that anyone could see them.  Who is protecting the children from their web site?  And did attending the Fair corrupt them so that now they are rampant homosexuals?  No.




FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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