Not all politicians hate us apparently

[lilcuddlymouse]

I just came across this article released a few days ago https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/senators-mccain-gillibrand-collins-reed-introduce-bipartisan-legislation-to-protect-transgender-service-members.

If anything good has come of Donald Trump's presidency, it is that the LGBT community seems to have become more united and politicians are actually trying to help us.

[Devlyn]

Here in Massachusetts we have a transgender bill of rights, brought to us by our Republican Governor. The previous Democratic governor didn't do it. Tbe major difference isn't Republican/Democrat, it's  North/South. Now why does that sound like deja vu?

Hugs, Devlyn

[Deborah]

Yeah, here in Georgia we have zero legal protections plus it's a right to work state so one can be fired for no reason at all.  Maybe the Democrats would do better for us today but they haven't been in power here since 2003.


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[Laurie]

   I have to agree with the Devyln, it is more of a north / south divide but it is also a religious divide. Way back when I was against all the atheist legislation removing things like the pledge of allegiance, nativity scenes form city parks, etc, thinking such things were basically harmless. But now we have too much of a religious influence in our government that is doing real harm to people that I would like to see it influence removed completely.
   I can only hope that the north wins the civil war once again and a return to a separation between church and state.
That's enough out of me lest I go too far and violate our Terms of Service.

Hugs,
   Laurie

[AnneK]

Yeah, here in Georgia we have zero legal protections plus it's a right to work state so one can be fired for no reason at all.

I have a problem understanding how "right to work" translates into "can be fired for no reason at all".

[Devlyn]

Sounds like Employee-at-will.

[Deborah]

Yes, I was confused.  It is employee at will.

What does it mean to be an at-will employee? According to one of the leading Georgia Supreme Court cases on the subject, it means that motives of an employer in terminating an at-will employee are legally immaterial. (Georgia Power Co. v Busbin, 242 Ga 612). Because the reason for termination is legally immaterial an employer can fire an employee for any reason or no reason, good reason or bad reason. The reason behind the termination does not matter.
http://bkandylaw.com/georgia-employment-at-will/


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[Roll]

I seem to recall something about work protections in Atlanta passing, or was it just proposed and didn't go anywhere?

[AnneK]

One thing that's clearly needed is employee protection.  The standard of living has been dropping steadily since the '80s, with Reaganomics and helping the wealthy & corporations, at the expense of everyone else.

I've never been in favour of unions, but it appears they've become necessary to protect people.

[MaryT]

What does it mean to be an at-will employee? According to one of the leading Georgia Supreme Court cases on the subject, it means that motives of an employer in terminating an at-will employee are legally immaterial.

Many years ago, I saw a US documentary in which people fired on the day before their retirement were interviewed.  Employers did it so that the employees would forfeit their pensions.  Can that still happen?

[Deborah]

I'm not sure if that specifically can happen.  But I do know that there are some in my town who worked in the textile mills their whole lives and when the mills closed and moved overseas they were left with an $11 a month pension.

Ain't capitalism great!


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[AnneK]

I'm not sure if that specifically can happen.  But I do know that there are some in my town who worked in the textile mills their whole lives and when the mills closed and moved overseas they were left with an $11 a month pension.

Ain't capitalism great!

That's why more protection for the average person is needed.  I doubt it will happen with the current administration.

[Chloe]

Democrats . . . haven't been in power here since 2003.

I think you mean 'since the Klan" Politicians don't "hate us" - 'the mob constituents' they're constantly catering too maybe???

[Dena]

Many years ago, I saw a US documentary in which people fired on the day before their retirement were interviewed.  Employers did it so that the employees would forfeit their pensions.  Can that still happen?

That's not how it worked and to some degree, it happened to me. You become vested in a pension. That means after some period of time like about 5 years you become a member of the pension plan. If you are terminated for any reason before that, you don't become a member of the plan. After that date, you are in the plan but what you will receive will be  greater the longer you remain in the plan. The company I was canned from when I was starting my transition got rid of around 750 people out of 1,000 in the period of a year or two so I suspect they banked a huge amount of money that would have ended up in a pension plan. In addition, they had openings that I applied for much latter but I suspect one of the reasons for not rehiring me was because I would have had pension time already banked making me eligible for a pension plan much sooner.

[Michelle_P]

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[Cindy]

Ok I've cleaned this thread up a bit.

I have a terrific idea.

Firstly follow the ToS and don't bash people no matter your political preferences.

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[lilcuddlymouse]

I didn't even think this would be a divisive subject on this forum. I never said anything against Democrats or Republicans. It's a fact that Donald Trump and a few other of his administration have written bills and executive orders reversing decades of improvements of LGBT rights. It's nice to see there have been states working to at least protect our rights within their borders.

[Alicia Francesca]

Libertairian here.I am glad Trump is my president and not Hillary.Trump will not be perfect but I think things would have been a lot worse under another Clinton admin.

[Alicia Francesca]

I have a problem understanding how "right to work" translates into "can be fired for no reason at all".

Jesus does not hate anyone.People do.

[Roll]

To answer my own question above in case anyone cares: There are indeed trans-inclusive anti-discrimination work laws in Atlanta at least. (http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/fact_sheets/all_jurisdictions_w_pop_10_11.pdf)

Jesus does not hate anyone.People do.

Except for Paulie Shore. He and Jesus have bad blood after Shore stiffed Jesus on a writing credit for Bio-dome.

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I'll... I'll shut up now.