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Custard Squirrel

Hi everybody, I've new here, but if it isn't too much trouble, I was looking to get some wisdom from the lovely people of this forum that might help me out. I elaborated slightly in my introduction post, but long story short, I'm currently attempting to get as firm a grasp as possible on who I really 'am'. I know a gender therapist will be a great help with this, but I imagine the the lived experiences of others must be also be as precious a resource as any. A few places I've seen online have suggested that a good place to start is to make a list of all memories, traits, etc. that have made you begin questioning in the first place.

For reference, I was assigned male at birth. Almost forgot to mention that because I'm so used to avoiding referring to anything that suggests my gender if I can avoid it.

...That probably goes on the list, I guess  :embarrassed:


(Apologies for this upcoming big wall of text!)

So, without further ado, I present what I've come up with so far. Any insight is appreciated!


   1) Some of my oldest childhood memories are closely identifying with, or sometimes wishing I was, female fictional characters. Specifically, I remember my young child self wishing I could be the yellow Power Ranger, and even the female hyena from the Lion King (I suppose I might have had a bit of a furry streak in me at the time, but that seems fairly common). I can't recall ever feeling that way about any male characters. I've had male characters that I liked as favorites, but never in a way that felt like I identified with them or wanted to be like them. In my family we would often play at assigning who was which character from whatever movie or show we were into at the time. I would often engineer it so that, woe is me, I would get "stuck" with a female character. This would become my MO as time went on; coming up with excuses or little deceptions to try to squeak by without being called out because I knew it was 'wrong'.

A more (but not very) recent memory that really stuck with me was around or just before middle school. My teenage aunt was living at my family's house for the summer, and we made it our thing to play the video game Resident Evil together. (Rather, she would play it and I would "advise" because I was too chicken to play, but I digress). The relevant point is that, since I was sort of her "sidekick", she began playfully referring to me by the name Rebecca, a sidekick character from the game. I have such a distinct memory of how inexplicably happy that made me feel. I didn't dwell on it, though, because it made me feel like a freak to think about it.


   2) As a child, I always liked playing with the "girl" toys. This isn't super uncommon, I suppose, but maybe still worth including. It's not that I had no interest in the "boy" toys at all, but I always wished I had some dolls, because they were more fun. I grew up with only brothers, so it was a rare occasion to have the opportunity to play with them. It was generally when I would go to visit relatives who had them in the house. I knew full well that showing interest would invite endless mocking from my brothers and male relatives, so I would pull the classic "darn, she's making me play with them" technique.


   3) When I got a little older and outgrew those toys I graduated onto video games. Picking female (or at least gender neutral) characters was comforting, but getting called on it so often was always a pain. What a wonder it was when they began making games with custom avatars. The Sims was essentially a virtual dollhouse, so of course I had to have it. The first thing I did when I got my hands on The Sims 2's (at the time) expansive customization was make the best approximation of myself that I could, then turn it into a woman. In retrospect that is... almost a little on the nose. I also spent a lot of time in MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online) games, where you could create your own character and identity. Living online as a woman through an avatar was (and is) such a catharsis. The game didn't even have to be good, it just had to have a community and enough freedom for me to express myself. I still play games, if less often these days. I still only make female characters. People have stopped asking why, and I get the feeling it's because they're uncomfortable pressing that issue.

I didn't know where to fit this bit in, so I'll leave it here since it's sort of thematically consistent. I believe this also took place during middle school. I was invited by my older brother's friends to play Dungeons and Dragons with them (yes, we were/are geeks), and though I didn't quite know the game, I went along. It's a tabletop role playing board game, which means that you act out your fictional identity in person around the table and use your imagination. Since I didn't have the safe comfort of anonymity, and didn't know the group that well, I created a male persona as to not arouse suspicion. As we went on our imaginary fantasy adventure, one of our compatriots discovered a mystical and mysterious armor item. Unwittingly, the person who found it put it on, and found his character transformed into a woman. The intention here was that this was a funny gag; a trap to mildly inconvenience you with a curse. You better believe I wanted that thing, but ultimately I could not come up with a convincing enough excuse as to why I would ever want it. I remember questioning myself more than usual. Why was I so disappointed that I couldn't have it? The characters were completely imaginary and formless. What difference did being a woman or man make? I wasn't even that invested in the game. But what a power the fantasy of that item had over me... I don't know. Even if it was just imaginary, the idea of being so close but just out of reach was so weirdly and frustratingly agonizing that I'm getting that feeling back just remembering and writing about it. It felt so unfair.


   4) This one is a bit more specific. When I was small, I remember once trying to make a dress out of a bunch of towels. This is honestly just embarrassing to remember. It was under some silly pretense that I was pranking my brother or something. But the vivid memory I have of it was how pathetic I felt. I knew it looked stupid. That was the cover anyway. But I didn't really want it to look bad. It was just the best I could do with what I had. I really did try, but I was acutely and painfully aware of how woefully I was failing, and that there was just nothing else I could do. Ugh, this memory is depressing and humiliating for reasons I can't adequately articulate.


   5) Anyway, moving onto more general things, I've always had an issue with self image. I've never made an effort to present myself well because I've always felt that there's just no point. It's impossible to look the way I want to, so why bother? I wear oversized loose clothes that hides my body and turns me into a formless lump. I do my best to choose clothes that don't call attention or get me noticed. To be honest, I just don't like to be seen. I don't like taking pictures. It makes me feel disgusting. I'm 5'11, and just feel like an abhorrent, graceless oaf. Appearance-wise, I'm in no position to judge myself. I've been told a couple of times that I have a handsome face, and whether they meant it or not (lets be real, they were probably just coming up with a random compliment), it just made me feel worse. I don't want to be told I'm closer to the ideal that they're probably holding me up to, if that makes sense.

   6) I've had dreams where I was 'mistaken for' and 'passing' as a woman. In the one I remember I was on a cruise ship. It must have been a women's cruise or something, because in my dream I felt happy to 'pass', but simultaneously guilty, like I was deceiving everyone and was going to be found out and kicked off. That's what makes me so skeptical. The way my dream was framed, it was something I wanted, but it was just a ruse. I was a fraud practicing deception, whether I wanted that to be the case or not.

   7) The other day at work a woman called me "ma'am". I'm not under any illusion that she mistook me for a woman out of nowhere; I wear my hair long, and I'm not macho, but with the way I dress there's just no way. She simply misspoke, and apologized. But even knowing that, it felt like I had received a compliment or something. But then I felt pathetic for feeling that way about someone misspeaking, so win-lose.

   8 ) Recently, my mother received a gift package in the mail. It was one of those assortment box deals, but for clothes. She didn't seem interested in anything that came in it, so she just sort of cast it aside for a while. Since she didn't seem to want it, I couldn't resist. I snuck the clothes away when no one was looking and tried them on. I'm not sure what to say. I can't say I look the way I wish I did in them, of course. But at the same time, it was... maybe 'freeing' is the word? I don't know. I guess it felt like maybe, just maybe, if I tried my hardest and chose carefully, I could pull together an outfit that was just good enough. So, sort of like having the freedom to at least try to be where I want to be? Anyway, I should probably mention, this 'event' is when I finally decided I couldn't keep ignoring these feelings. I don't know what they mean, exactly. I don't know what I should or even can do with them. But I know that I can't pretend they don't exist forever, or even much longer.

   9) Almost forgot, yes, as I mentioned at the top, I've always kind of been put off by using male pronouns. I've always hated hearing my own name, too. I don't do anything that would raise suspicion, like using they/them or anything. Just small things, like avoiding pronouns and saying 'person' instead of 'guy','man','boy', etc. I think it was around high school that I started to actually feel some resentment towards masculinity and all that that entails. Previous to that, I think it would be fair to say that I was jealous of girls, but it wasn't until later that I started to feel specifically like being male was a burden. I mean, I suppose I did always find it to be an obstacle, but not one I actively thought about.

The thing of it is, though, I never questioned that I was. Maybe it's just because I'm a passive person, but my thinking has always been that you are what people say you are. If people said I was dumb, I was dumb. If people said I was weird, I was weird. So if people said I was a guy, I was a guy. It wasn't something I ever questioned, just something I was saddled with. I guess that's where my main conflict is. If I never even thought to question if I was something else, how could I be? The most common narrative seems to be that of the child who knew what they were. I only had what I wished I was, but never believed I could be. Is that something else entirely? I don't know. I don't get it. I feel confused. And I feel alone. But maybe I don't have to be? I feel like all I can do is keep repeating "I don't know".


Sorry about that massive wall of text, by the way. I probably could have been more concise, but I ended up just typing up what I thought as I went.

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Bari Jo

Hi Custard. You definitely have some traits I would consider as trans.  The playing at female characters and identifying with them is common, myself included.  The making of dresses is too.  When I was mistaken for a girl, I would act like I was mad, but was always pleased.  My history is different though.  Ive known I was trans since I was a kid, but was in denial until recently.  You don't seem too bothered by GD, but that might be because you are young and in my experience it gets worse as you get older.  As you have suggested, I recommend a gender therapist to help guide you.  We will all try based on our own experience, of course.  Anyway, calling you custard since that's sweet:)

Bari Jo
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11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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elkie-t

Hi Custard. You wrote a lovely post about your past and I just ignored it all. What has been, might be of interest to your shrink (who is getting paid by you to listen to it), but not me (I can give you my paypal account...)

Can you answer this simple question to yourself - what is it that you want for you going forward ? And a bonus one - how any of these online strangers on the net (me included) can help you? Ask - and you will receive answers. But to ask the right question, you need to know most of the answer anyway :) so, do your homework
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KathyLauren

Quote from: Custard Squirrel on October 06, 2017, 06:11:43 PMThe most common narrative seems to be that of the child who knew what they were. I only had what I wished I was, but never believed I could be. Is that something else entirely? I don't know. I don't get it. I feel confused. And I feel alone.
Hi, Custard!

That narrative is the best known, because it sells newspapers and TV shows.  It is not the most common, not by a long shot.  Someone posted on these forums a while ago that one therapist said most of their trans clients were in their 50s.  Just reading people's stories here, that seems entirely plausible.

Your history certainly sounds to me like you are probably transgender.  It sounds a lot like mine, in fact, though I am of a generation before video or online games.  And I just figured out who I am in the last couple of years.  I am now 63.

Many of us only figure it out after a lifetime of failed conformity.  There is some integrity in that: if someone tells me that I should have tried harder to be my sex assigned at birth, I can tell them to go pound sand because I tried that for 60 years and it didn't work.

So don't worry about whether you fit into someone else's narrative.  You have to figure out what your narrative means to you, and where you want to take it from here.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Roll

Up until the part about you having long hair your post could have been written by me. I've come to find it's a pretty common story with our generation (I'm assuming we are roughly the same age based on your point of reference with pop culture :D). I can't even count the number of threads I've participated in at this point where we've gone back and forth about our penchant for female characters in games. Hell, even the towel dress came up a week or so ago! And self-image/taking care of myself? Forget it, I had absolutely no positive feelings about my self-image, and my presentation and grooming was pretty much "don't forget pants".

While only you can figure out who you truly are, I will proffer my own experience thus far for a bit of reference as requested. For my part, I know when I started posting here about a month and a half ago I had no idea where I fit in the scheme of things. I knew intellectually I was on the transgender spectrum, there was little room for doubt on that, but I had no idea if I truly wanted to transition or what. I also had these feelings that I was a pretender since my dysphoria had never been extreme enough to push me to action in the past. Well, with a month and a half of posting and a handful of therapy sessions I am already to the point I am confident in who I am: a transgender girl who very much wants to live as the person she is inside.

Before my realization because of other events in my life I made efforts to lose weight, begin proper grooming habits and so forth which triggered all of my feelings in full. Since, I bought real clothes (ie: women's clothes) that fit me, mostly suit me (it's trial and error fashion wise), and the feelings they evoked have only solidified my resolve. I tried makeup to cover beard shadow, looked in the mirror and saw hope staring back at me and my resolve became even stronger still. Everyday is a new step in my journey to being ever more positive where I want to go in life, and finding the courage to overcome my fears. Ordering those clothes was monstrously terrifying the first time, after all, what if someone else opened the package? Now, I don't really care if they do, I just think of it as saving me the trouble of having to push myself to come out. (Though a new found shopping addiction is starting to be a problem financially. :D) This Tuesday I'm attending my (albeit just online) Therapy appointment dressed to the nines and looking someone in the face while presenting as female.

Oh, and I never, ever had that clarity as a child of being a "girl trapped in a boys body". I too only had what I wished I was. But here I am, itching to get started on HRT and coming out.
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Devlyn

Quote from: elkie-t on October 06, 2017, 09:47:53 PM

...Can you answer this simple question to yourself - what is it that you want for you going forward ? And a bonus one - how any of these online strangers on the net (me included) can help you? Ask - and you will receive answers. But to ask the right question, you need to know most of the answer anyway :) so, do your homework

DING DING DING! We have a winner in todays "Yes, Exactly This!" contest.   :) 

My providers wanted to know about my goals, not my past.

Hugs, Devlyn
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echo7

How do you feel about socializing as a woman?  Are most of your friends already female?  Men and women socialize in very different ways, and that is something important to consider aside from the external trappings of living a female role in society.
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Allie24

There's not much I can add here that hasn't already been said.

To start, 5'11" is not a bad height. That's model height. I'm 5'11". There are cis women who are even taller than me! Don't sweat the height issue, that's nothing.

Now here's something important to think about though: there is a huge difference between entertaining the idea of womanhood and womanhood itself. Say you do transition and you pass 100%. You must contend with 1.) the change in your physical body and 2.) being treated as a woman, which, when compared to the "burden" of manhood, is no walk in the park. You are far more likely to be physically/sexually assaulted as a woman (and as a trans woman this is especially dangerous because a sexual assault can lead to you being murdered as well). Society has higher standards for how you present yourself. As a man you can dress in loose clothing and blend into the woodwork, but as a woman you're looked down upon for not trying. People will treat you like you are made of glass sometimes. You will receive unwanted attention from some really creepy dudes. And you will also find that the way women interact with each other is way different than how men interact with each other.

None of this is said to discourage you, but to get you to understand the reality of what you are about to embark on (if you so choose). But it's not my place to say that this is your path or not. You may have some things in common with those on this board, but that's not what you should be going off of. The decision is in you.

I also haven't even mentioned the reality that awaits you if transition does not meet your expectations. You may not pass 100% and that comes with its own problems. Bathrooms, workplace discrimination, physical/sexual assault, harassment, name calling.

But, none of this should matter, because transition is done for you, and you alone. It is done so that you can feel like a functional human being, DESPITE what others may think, and DESPITE what you may expect your results to be.

Best of luck to you on your journey <3
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Custard Squirrel

Thanks for the replies, everybody! It's been very helpful in a variety of ways, both the warnings and encouragement! Like elkie-t and a couple of others mentioned, I absolutely agree that it isn't possible to assess just based off of history, shared or otherwise. I guess I'm just looking for somewhere to start the conversation with my therapist, or a point of reference moving forward. My big concern (if not one I have to contend with immediately) is that, though I know what I want, I may not know myself well enough to trust myself.

Quote from: Bari Jo on October 06, 2017, 07:34:17 PM
Hi Custard. You definitely have some traits I would consider as trans.  The playing at female characters and identifying with them is common, myself included.  The making of dresses is too.  When I was mistaken for a girl, I would act like I was mad, but was always pleased.  My history is different though. Ive known I was trans since I was a kid, but was in denial until recently.  You don't seem too bothered by GD, but that might be because you are young and in my experience it gets worse as you get older.  As you have suggested, I recommend a gender therapist to help guide you.  We will all try based on our own experience, of course.  Anyway, calling you custard since that's sweet:)

Bari Jo

Thank you! Also, Custard is good, I just had no idea what to use for a forum name, haha  :laugh:

Quote from: elkie-t on October 06, 2017, 09:47:53 PM
Ask - and you will receive answers. But to ask the right question, you need to know most of the answer anyway :) so, do your homework

Ay, what a catch-22. I guess now is as good a time as any to suddenly become a good student who does their homework :P

Quote from: KathyLauren on October 07, 2017, 11:50:51 AM
Hi, Custard!

That narrative is the best known, because it sells newspapers and TV shows.  It is not the most common, not by a long shot.  Someone posted on these forums a while ago that one therapist said most of their trans clients were in their 50s.  Just reading people's stories here, that seems entirely plausible.

Your history certainly sounds to me like you are probably transgender.  It sounds a lot like mine, in fact, though I am of a generation before video or online games.  And I just figured out who I am in the last couple of years.  I am now 63.

Many of us only figure it out after a lifetime of failed conformity.  There is some integrity in that: if someone tells me that I should have tried harder to be my sex assigned at birth, I can tell them to go pound sand because I tried that for 60 years and it didn't work.

So don't worry about whether you fit into someone else's narrative.  You have to figure out what your narrative means to you, and where you want to take it from here.

That's surprising to hear! In my head I know I shouldn't let myself be duped into thinking popular narratives reflect reality, but it sure can happen before we realize it. Just another reason having representation is so important. Thanks, and I'll do my best!

Quote from: Roll on October 07, 2017, 05:15:02 PM
Up until the part about you having long hair your post could have been written by me. I've come to find it's a pretty common story with our generation (I'm assuming we are roughly the same age based on your point of reference with pop culture :D). I can't even count the number of threads I've participated in at this point where we've gone back and forth about our penchant for female characters in games. Hell, even the towel dress came up a week or so ago! And self-image/taking care of myself? Forget it, I had absolutely no positive feelings about my self-image, and my presentation and grooming was pretty much "don't forget pants".

While only you can figure out who you truly are, I will proffer my own experience thus far for a bit of reference as requested. For my part, I know when I started posting here about a month and a half ago I had no idea where I fit in the scheme of things. I knew intellectually I was on the transgender spectrum, there was little room for doubt on that, but I had no idea if I truly wanted to transition or what. I also had these feelings that I was a pretender since my dysphoria had never been extreme enough to push me to action in the past. Well, with a month and a half of posting and a handful of therapy sessions I am already to the point I am confident in who I am: a transgender girl who very much wants to live as the person she is inside.

Before my realization because of other events in my life I made efforts to lose weight, begin proper grooming habits and so forth which triggered all of my feelings in full. Since, I bought real clothes (ie: women's clothes) that fit me, mostly suit me (it's trial and error fashion wise), and the feelings they evoked have only solidified my resolve. I tried makeup to cover beard shadow, looked in the mirror and saw hope staring back at me and my resolve became even stronger still. Everyday is a new step in my journey to being ever more positive where I want to go in life, and finding the courage to overcome my fears. Ordering those clothes was monstrously terrifying the first time, after all, what if someone else opened the package? Now, I don't really care if they do, I just think of it as saving me the trouble of having to push myself to come out. (Though a new found shopping addiction is starting to be a problem financially. :D) This Tuesday I'm attending my (albeit just online) Therapy appointment dressed to the nines and looking someone in the face while presenting as female.

Oh, and I never, ever had that clarity as a child of being a "girl trapped in a boys body". I too only had what I wished I was. But here I am, itching to get started on HRT and coming out.

Wow, it's really nice to finally have someone who can relate to these experiences, even if I don't yet know where I'll end up along that spectrum myself. It also makes me so happy to hear how you were able to find the courage and resolve to make such positive changes in your life! I might have to borrow a little bit of that courage :D. Good luck with the HRT and with coming out, I'm rooting for you!

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on October 07, 2017, 05:27:21 PM
DING DING DING! We have a winner in todays "Yes, Exactly This!" contest.   :) 

My providers wanted to know about my goals, not my past.

Hugs, Devlyn

I'll have to work on coming up with goals. That's my goal! :laugh: Thanks for the hugs!

Quote from: echo7 on October 07, 2017, 07:31:06 PM
How do you feel about socializing as a woman?  Are most of your friends already female?  Men and women socialize in very different ways, and that is something important to consider aside from the external trappings of living a female role in society.

It's something I've thought about a bit. I have social anxiety (sort of the reason I've been working with a therapist to begin with), so I don't have a very large social circle. My interactions are generally limited to family or people I know from work; people I might call friends, but not "see them over the weekend" close. That being the case, my socialization experience with any gender is pretty shallow. I am friends with more women than men, and I do tend to get along better with them, but that may simply be because (at least in my experience) women tend to reach out more.

Quote from: Allie24 on October 07, 2017, 10:49:38 PM

Now here's something important to think about though: there is a huge difference between entertaining the idea of womanhood and womanhood itself. Say you do transition and you pass 100%. You must contend with 1.) the change in your physical body and 2.) being treated as a woman, which, when compared to the "burden" of manhood, is no walk in the park. You are far more likely to be physically/sexually assaulted as a woman (and as a trans woman this is especially dangerous because a sexual assault can lead to you being murdered as well). Society has higher standards for how you present yourself. As a man you can dress in loose clothing and blend into the woodwork, but as a woman you're looked down upon for not trying. People will treat you like you are made of glass sometimes. You will receive unwanted attention from some really creepy dudes. And you will also find that the way women interact with each other is way different than how men interact with each other.

None of this is said to discourage you, but to get you to understand the reality of what you are about to embark on (if you so choose). But it's not my place to say that this is your path or not. You may have some things in common with those on this board, but that's not what you should be going off of. The decision is in you.

I also haven't even mentioned the reality that awaits you if transition does not meet your expectations. You may not pass 100% and that comes with its own problems. Bathrooms, workplace discrimination, physical/sexual assault, harassment, name calling.

I've definitely given this a lot of thought as well. What do I even know about what it means to be or live as a woman? How could I be qualified to make that decision? That has honestly given me the most pause. But that's something I'll have to discuss with the therapist.

Then there's the danger. I've heard and read so many accounts about how different and pervasive it is. I've been paying attention and noticing things. Small things, like guys who linger and block the doorway when they talk to you. On a cognitive level, I'm aware of these dangers. But without having lived as a woman, there's just no way a person could really understand or be prepared for what it's really like. At the very least, though, I do know some of the most basic safety precautions, things like avoiding isolated areas, safety in numbers, never letting a drink out of sight, etc. It's all scary, but as you said, I wouldn't want to let that be the reason I stopped myself. Whatever happens, I'm blessed that the place where I work is as inclusive and safe a place as any, so I wouldn't have to worry about facing discrimination from employers for the time being.

With regards to personal upkeep, it would certainly be a lot more effort. There's a silver lining to caring about and taking some pride in my appearance, at least. The thought of picking out outfits I actually want and experimenting with what suits me sounds like so much fun (shoulders are probably the biggest challenge!). Both a science and an art! Ditto for cosmetics, but I can easily see that getting tedious eventually, even if it is crucial. Having said that, I'm doing my best not to underestimate the burden of that societal pressure, and only giving it a try could dispel any ignorant misconceptions I have in that regard.

Quote from: Allie24 on October 07, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
Best of luck to you on your journey <3

Thank you so much!



Sorry about writing so long again, I just wanted to address everyone who was kind enough to respond. I chickened out for a while and was afraid to read what people had said, sorry  :-X
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Devlyn

It's a big step to post your private thoughts publicly. I'm sure you've discovered now that it's quite liberating.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn
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Roll

Quote from: Custard Squirrel on October 08, 2017, 10:50:36 AM
With regards to personal upkeep, it would certainly be a lot more effort. There's a silver lining to caring about and taking some pride in my appearance, at least. The thought of picking out outfits I actually want and experimenting with what suits me sounds like so much fun (shoulders are probably the biggest challenge!). Both a science and an art! Ditto for cosmetics, but I can easily see that getting tedious eventually, even if it is crucial. Having said that, I'm doing my best not to underestimate the burden of that societal pressure, and only giving it a try could dispel any ignorant misconceptions I have in that regard.

Don't worry about shoulders too much, I've learned that they are not quite the obstacle we think they are. Countless beautiful cis-women, including actresses (Demi Moore even) and models have shoulders just as broad as the average male shoulder width and some broader, but they learn to dress and style their hair in ways to down play them. For instance, I've bought three tops so far; one makes my shoulders (and upper arms) look every bit as bad as I worried. The other two tops my shoulders look perfectly fine in. You'll find googling the subject brings up countless blogs and articles targeted at cis-women regarding shoulders even. And while I haven't had the opportunity to experience this myself yet, reportedly HRT makes a big difference as we carry far more male muscle mass in our shoulders and upper arm than we realize, and the loss of that has a stark narrowing effect.
~ Ellie
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I ALWAYS WELCOME PMs!
(I made the s lowercase so it didn't look as much like PMS... ;D)

An Open Letter to anyone suffering from anxiety, particularly those afraid to make your first post or continue posting!

8/30/17 - First Therapy! The road begins in earnest.
10/20/17 - First coming out (to my father)!
12/16/17 - BEGAN HRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/21/18 - FIRST DAY OUT AS ME!!!!!!!!!
6/08/18 - 2,250 Hair Grafts
6/23/18 - FIRST PRIDE!
8/06/18 - 100%, completely out!
9/08/18 - I'M IN LOVE!!!!
2/27/19 - Name Change!

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