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Started by Confuseddude, November 04, 2017, 09:17:14 AM

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Confuseddude

Hi everyone I had a long talk with my wife about what would happen if I transitioned and i think basically the conclusion is my life would fall apart.  My wife might not divorce me but she said she couldn't be more than my roommate and sex and intimacy would be off the table.  My family at best would talk behind my back and sort of fake accept me and at worst disown me.  I'm trying to be sensitive and not tear everyone else's lives up.  I would like to think transitioning isn't necessary but ever since I came to the realization I'm trans the disphoria keeps getting worse.  All I wanted in life was a decent marriage with a decent sex life maybe even kids someday.  I guess my life isn't horrible but between me being trans and my wife being asexual it has not gone the way I wanted it to.  I really love my wife and want to be her man but my female self keeps getting in my way.  I don't want to be a man but sometimes I wish I could just make her go away.  Are other people's lives this hard?
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kayla1618

Hold up a minute.  Shes asexual??
Isn't that perfect then!?

If you start HRT, your sex drive is likely to decrease by more than 50% anyways (not always, but statistically),
and her being asexual, she won't have to put out just to satisfy your needs, which means she gets to live more of her truth as well. So....You guys get to remain friends/roommates still, possibly even cuddle buddies,  and sex kinda just magically goes away as an issue.

Forgive me if Im not seeing the entire picture, but I see this as a complete win/win  ???


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Confuseddude

Thanks for the reply.  In theory yes but even of my drive comes down I think I will still desire to be intimate cuddling etc.  Although asexual she is still I think it's called a aromantic which means although she could care less about sex she still wants to be married to a guy and isn't attracted to females.  She talked like we would be really good friends but above that she wasn't sure she could be closer even in a non sexual manner.  Also she is concerned about our parents both disowning us as I am as well. 
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Confuseddude

Ok so wanted to add something else I asked her how are relationship would work and she talked like all intamacy wouldn't go away as I originally thought but sex would be completely off the table.  I guess the biggest thing is my  family not liking me etc.  It would be nice to not transition but I hate feeling this way.
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elkie-t

We don't know what future awaits us (neither does your wife). Transition is a leap of faith. Do it for yourself, or don't.


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SoupSarah

When I confessed to my wife my gender issues (April this year, so still pretty raw) She was initially very supportive, said all the 'correct' things. Within 3 days that had changed to a list of rules that I could not do (including telling my daughter or parents) and then a couple of days later telling me she could not live with me as a woman. We have been together for 28 years, she is my only love. That was really hard to deal with....
  But we kept talking, she understood that what I am experiencing is not by choice, its simply the only way I will survive and I understood that she was trying to protect her family and me. We have kept talking, I have been brutally honest with her, telling her things that I know would cause pain, but were truthful. She reciprocated explaining all her fears and worries. My parents are 'god-fearing', homophobic and conservatively narrow minded they would walk away except they would lose access to their only grandchild. We have not told them yet, but have dripped hints and ideas over the last few months. Changes do not happen overnight, and to a degree you have a control over the speed and amount of information you can give out to anyone. We as a family now are in a position that if my parents disown us then it is their loss. my wife and I are still talking, and facing very tough difficulties, but I can honestly say we are closer now than ever before, we have a deep mutual understanding of each other. From that comes a great respect and love. I am confident we will survive. How our relationship actually ends up is anyone's guess, but we are at least working together.
So, to answer your question,  Are other people's lives this hard? The answer is, everyone faces difficulties. If one persons path is harder than an others, who can say, its all subjective. My best advice is keep talking and you will find your way.
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Confuseddude

Thanks for the reply Sarah that really helps.   Your story and parents sound very similar to mine.  I've gotten to the point I can't keeping denying who I am .  Now does that mean transitioning or not I don't know.   I would like to say no as that sounds more logical and easier but I've spent 28 years doing that.  She wants out and is tired of being ignored.  At the moment other than I am scheduled to see a therapist I am not sure where to go from here.   I just want the torture to end.  Hugs
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JoanneB

We all would like to have our cake and eat it too. When dealing with GD, there is hardly any perfect answer. Like Elkie said, doing anything about the GD is a leap of faith.

Based on your posts, it seems like you are an "All In" or "All out" mindset. I like to thing of "Transitioning" more in terms of the dictionary meaning of Change. Or in other words, what baby steps do you need to take in order to manage your particular flavor of GD? Odds are suppressing it or denial are not viable long term options, so what then?

I found some peace of mind in thinking of myself more in terms of Non-Binary, since that is the reality of my life. Today, I do not need to live full-time female, but sure do want to. But there are many other, even more important aspects of myself that would be put at risk such as my wife and livelihood. To be 100% authentic may lead to loosing a good 60% of what else goes into making me, Me. I work hard at maintaining the delicate balance between my female and male aspects.

It sounds like you have a lot of flexibility. Perhaps not the ideal world you would like, yet options are open for finding some level of inner peace. Only you can answer the simple question of:
"Which Pain is Worse?"
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(ROCK) ---> ME <--- (HARD PLACE)
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Meghan

Quote from: JoanneB on November 05, 2017, 07:30:17 AM
We all would like to have our cake and eat it too. When dealing with GD, there is hardly any perfect answer. Like Elkie said, doing anything about the GD is a leap of faith.

Based on your posts, it seems like you are an "All In" or "All out" mindset. I like to thing of "Transitioning" more in terms of the dictionary meaning of Change. Or in other words, what baby steps do you need to take in order to manage your particular flavor of GD? Odds are suppressing it or denial are not viable long term options, so what then?

I found some peace of mind in thinking of myself more in terms of Non-Binary, since that is the reality of my life. Today, I do not need to live full-time female, but sure do want to. But there are many other, even more important aspects of myself that would be put at risk such as my wife and livelihood. To be 100% authentic may lead to loosing a good 60% of what else goes into making me, Me. I work hard at maintaining the delicate balance between my female and male aspects.

It sounds like you have a lot of flexibility. Perhaps not the ideal world you would like, yet options are open for finding some level of inner peace. Only you can answer the simple question of:
"Which Pain is Worse?"
Just like pick your poison huh

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Confuseddude

Yah it's definitely a which pain is worse kind of thing.

Thanks for the replies everyone.  I don't know what I will choose but hopefully my therapist can help guide me in the right direction.  I'm not really sure how to be in between and somewhere in the gender range.  I would like an outlet for my female self but I'm trying to not freak my wife out too much.

Hugs

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Jayne01

Hi Confuseddude,

I was just about to start my own thread asking how people cope not transitioning when I saw your thread. I am in kind of similar situation.

I didn't know anything about being transgender until about 2 1/2 years ago where my world started to tumble. I am 45 years old and married to the live of my life and best friend for the past 16 years.

My wife is very supportive but also has many valid fears of her own about what our relationship will become. I would love to be able to not transition and find a happy place where I continue to be the husband she married. I don't know if I am able to do that. I am 2 months in HRT and I am enjoying the physical and mental changes it is starting to give me. I did not know I was transgender until a couple of years ago. In hindsight I probably should have known something wasn't quite right, but I didn't. Now that I do know, to not transition feels like I will be deliberately living a lie. If my wife asks me to live that lie, I would do it for her, but she would never ask that of me. I however have asked myself if I could do it. I would make that sacrifice for my wife if I thought it was the best thing to do. I just don't know if it is or isn't the right thing to do.

I want to be the best version of myself, and as each day goes by, it seems that Jayne is a better me than John.

I've laid awake many nights (including tonight as I write this) trying to answer the question of transition or not.

I can definitely understand your dilemma and can only offer you moral support because I am facing the same dilemma.

One thing I can offer is that transition is not like an on/off switch with only two options. It's more like a volume control with many steps in between. It isn't all or nothing, you may find what you need somewhere in between.

Jayne
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Meghan

As I about to begin my HRT soon, and I know it is a important decision to make for myself and my future. As my Therapist said I am so comfortable and happy when talking about my transgender, and I can't choose to go around pretend I am ok. She said this is who I am and I should move forward with my transition process.

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Confuseddude

Hi Jayne thanks for sharing.  I guess unfortunately it's never going to be a win win type of scenario and as much as I would like to have a supporting family behind me I am not going to get them. It's hard though part if the time I am like this shouldn't be that big of a deal who cares how I look but she seems to think different.  For a long time it felt like two parts of me were fighting each other and until realizing I was trans I couldn't figure out why.  The old fabricated me that was ingrained by my parents and the culture and the real me which I am just now discovering.  One of the real shockers to me is the discovery I might be bisexual which at the moment I am trying to think about too much as it kind of creeps me out.  Guess it makes sense if I am female but as a guy I don't like the idea.  Homophobia was drilled into me as a kid so that is still very much there.  Thanks everyone for the support.
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LaRell

You can never live your life for other people.  Yes it is a noble thing to try not to tear other peoples lives apart......but you are not responsible for other peoples feelings and their own personal issues that would cause them grief over your own personal transition.  Yes your wife stands in a place to be affected by it, I am married myself and know how that goes.  But as for the rest of your family and friends and things, you aren't responsible for them or whatever they may think.  Those feelings of dysphoria are not going to go away.  It has been my experience and observation, that the best thing for ones happiness, is to not try too hard to suppress those feelings.  Obviously, you know your own life and what you are dealing with better than any of us on this forum do, but living for others will only cause resentment, and sadness when a person is not able to live authentically to themselves and who they really are. 

Sno

Hi hon.

You have a supporting family - us! We are a challenging bunch, but we do so from a place of love :)

It's really shocking when we realise that a large part of how we view ourselves is developed from our childhood, where we learn from our culture and parents, and how many 'bad habits' we still carry from that time.

Talking of bad habits, have your heard of Fear, Obligation and Guilt? It's known as fog (for obvious reasons), and a nasty way to override our ability to think rationally, by engaging our emotions....

(Hugs)

Rowan.
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