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Started by Nevoxia, October 17, 2017, 12:28:15 AM

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Nevoxia

Hello.

I have been reading messages on this forum for about a year, because I am constantly asking my search engine questions about "transgender", and "HRT", etc. Very often the search results include posts on these forums. But I have never posted my own questions here before, because usually someone else already has asked and been answered. But tonight I decided to register because after so much thinking about my own experiences and reading about the experiences of others, I finally think I have some questions to pose for myself.

All of the reading of everyone else's ideas has certainly given me a lot to think about in the context of my own. It has added more intuition to help me make sense of my own life. For that, I am very thankful to this forum.

I am 32 years old and questioning whether I am transgender. The primary concern in this question is whether I am legitimately transgender, as in "born this way", or whether I have developed some sort of fetish like  ->-bleeped-<-. Or even whether it's just a simple case of Venus Envy in the style of "grass is always greener on the other side."

I know that the question of "am I transgender" is probably one of the most frequently asked questions that in these places, but nevertheless it is one I continue to ask. I've taken all the internet quizzes that try to determine true gender, true "brain sex", transgender, masculine vs feminine thinking, and all that stuff. But as you can probably guess none of it really helped. I even don't trust myself to not manipulate the results by trying to guess which multiple-choice answer goes with which outcome. I think the main reason they are unhelpful is because they often give results that land right in the middle, hovering around 50%. Even if I had full faith in their accuracy, it basically places me right on the fence I was already on.

Reading other people's stories has often sounded quite similar to my own, which encouraged me to conclude that I am indeed legitimately transgender. But the doubt always comes creeping back in.

There is so much I want to say, and so many details I want to include, but I know that no one really likes to read a wall of text, (verbosity is one of my greatest weaknesses,) so I will try to limit this message to one primary area of question.


How well do you really remember your childhood? How well do you really remember puberty?


Often we are asked "how long have you felt this way?", and often we answer "as far back as I can remember". But for me that answer needs an asterisk. "As far back as I can remember" isn't too far. I feel like I can't really remember anything before the age of 13 or 14. I have only the rarest and vaguest of memories, like maybe a Christmas present I got when I was about 10. I have absolutely no memory of going through any type of puberty change. I feel like I have always had secondary sexual characteristics. I can't remember a time before them.

Is that normal? Is that common? I have yet to read anyone discuss that specific issue.

But the reason it is an issue for me in the transgender question is because it seems that most legitimate transgender people can remember being transgender before puberty, as if that seems to rule out the possibility of it simply being a sexual paraphilia of sorts. But I cannot rule that out for myself because I can't remember a time before I was already sexualized.

I am bursting with details I want to include, but I and holding back so as not to overwhelm my first post more than I already have.

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Nevoxia
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LadyGreen

Hi Nevoxia welcome aboard. For what its worth i didnt know until after puberty and i know a few people who didnt know until rather late in life.

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Cindy

Hi Nevoxia welcome to Susan's,

Firstly there is nothing wrong in asking questions that have been asked before. They are your questions and they are most welcome.

I do think one of the common ones is 'Am I really TG?' and of course the answer is, 'No one knows except you'. There are all the  internet parlour tricks and videos and advice but it comes down really to something pretty simple in concept. "Am I happier being the gender opposite to that which was assigned to me?" It really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks it is what you want.

Going to a therapist, a good therapist can be a big help but the good ones never diagnose, they help you make your mind up.  I use myself as an example. I asked my original therapist years after I transitioned and once we were good friends socially. "When did you know I was TG?" His reply "When you walked into my office - why else would you have come to see me?"
So the answer to the question is very much in your hands. The next part though is the tough bit. What do you want to do about it?

Some like me, are happily living as the woman I have always accepted my self as. I am known as a woman socially, work wise and everything. I have largely forgotten who 'he' was.

Others are happy with just accepting themselves as they are and living happily, others need some hormonal help to adjust the chemical balance and others live quite happily in a gender fluidity that allows them to explore their nature of feminine/masculine at will.

The choice is really yours and we can explore that here by asking questions and getting comments from others



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Bari Jo

Hi Nexovia, welcome to Susan's.  We are all different in how we remember things and what we remember.  I don't think that could make anyone more or less transgender.  I typically only remember really happy or sad moments from childhood and I had plenty of those extremes.  If things happened that were in between emotionwise they didn't make it into long term storage for me.

I encourage you to take a few sessions with a gender therapist.  They can ask questions and guide your thoughts on the subject of am I trans very well.  I wouldnt put much stock into worrying about why you only remember things after puberty for this question, or really anything.  long term storage is a different beast.  The real question I think you want answered is why do I feel the way I do?  That you might need therapy and lots of processing time.  It might end up that you aren't trans.  Or it might that you are.  time to work things out;)

Anyway, welcome and hugs.  We are here for you.

Bari Jo
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

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11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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KathyLauren

Hi, Nevoxia, and welcome!

Quote from: Nevoxia on October 17, 2017, 12:28:15 AM
How well do you really remember your childhood? How well do you really remember puberty?
I remember a few isolated events from my childhood.  I don't remember my first puberty at all.  I am 63, so it was a while ago.   :D

One event I can remember quite clearly from when I was 7 years old.  My father had subscribed me to a weekly kid's magazine, and in one issue I saw a picture of a girl in a pretty dress.  I knew right away that I wanted to be her and to wear that dress.  I memorized the number of that issue of the magazine so that I could look at the picture again and again.  From that number, I was able to look up the publishing history of the magazine and date the event accurately.  I was seven years and four months old.

I never thought as a kid that I was a girl.  My parents told me I was a boy and of course I believed them.  But I wished I was a girl.  I remember many times going to sleep to fantasies of being a girl.

I didn't notice puberty because I wasn't aware that puberty was a thing.  By the time I figured out that it was a thing, I was well past it.

Doubts are a normal part of this path.  You have probably read, and you certainly will read, about many/most of us experiencing  "what the heck am I doing?" moments.  That's normal.  When those doubts hit, I do a reality check: what is real (i.e. what do I know for certain) and what an I unsure about?  I pretty much ignore the stuff I am unsure about and cling to what I know to be true.

What I know is that I could not have kept on the way I was going.  What I know for sure is that now, on HRT and living full-time as a woman, I am happy for the first time in my life.  The mental static has decreased and I like who I am.  These things are true even when the doubt arise, so I hang on to them.

All of this is stuff that you should explore with a properly-qualified gender therapist.  We do such a good job of burying all this that we usually need some help sorting it out.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Tommie_9

Hello, Nevoxia,

I went through similar stages of self discovery and finally acceptance. I always recommend seeing a therapist who specializes in gender identity issues. Here is a link that will help you find one, if you live in the USA or Canada. It's how I found mine, and she is wonderful! https://therapists.psychologytoday.com/transgender
Best wishes and don't give up,

Tommie
Finding 'self' is the first step toward becoming 'self'. Every step is part of a journey. May your journey lead to happiness. Peace!
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Dave143

Hi Nevoxia,

I don't think i would be able to give you much advice but i can at least tell you that you're not alone as i'm going through the same interogations at this moment and also can't remember much prior to puberty ;)
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SailorMars1994

Wecome new comer! It is nice to see another friendly face.

Just a warning in advance so you do not get in trouble, the word '' ->-bleeped-<-'' is highly looked down on Susans. Mainly because the people who push that label are trying to label us as males whos identity is only sexually based. Tho, I must ask why would you worry you would be part of that label? nothing indicates that you are from what I read.

Anyways, I wish you well here. I didnt know I was female until later. I recall as a young kid i went through many o' times knowing that being female would have been perfered however I didnt realize I was infact female till later too.

Enjoy your stay here!
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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Artesia

I don't remember much before my senior year in high school.  Cartoons mostly, and very specific episodes.  Other than that most of my childhood information comes from my family.

I will join the others in suggesting the use of a gender therapist.
All the worlds a joke, and the people, merely punchlines

September 13, 2016 HRT start date
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Nevoxia

Thank you all for your responses and kind words.

I've been struggling to find a therapist for a couple years, part of the problem is money, because I don't have health insurance, and part of the problem is that I live in Alabama.

But I recently found a community psychiatry program that appears to be affordable, my first appointment with my therapist is actually coming up next week. While I am not optimistic that they are necessarily qualified as a gender therapist, they do appear to take me seriously because they've already set up an appointment with an endocrinologist, before I have even met the therapist.

Someone asked why I would even think about " ->-bleeped-<-", I can answer that, but I hope I don't offend anyone. Also, I hope I don't hijack my own post into a debate about this. I am aware that many people would use it as a weapon to say that transgender women are never real, but I consider that both may exist separately. The distinction, according to a post elsewhere by a transwoman named Dianna, is that if you have  ->-bleeped-<-, it is mostly part of your masturbation fantasy, and after your masturbation has concluded, all of your feminine feelings disappear instantly and completely. Until the next time. And the truth is, that does somewhat describe my experience. I feel "feminine" all the time, and only occasionally become aroused enough to need to engage in "masturbation" activity. But the activity always includes the fantasy, and immediately afterwards I always feel really awful, and immediately think "what the heck is wrong with me," and "what the heck am I doing to myself." It's not only a feeling of intense shame or guilt, it actually seems like a feeling of intense clarity. As if for just a brief moment afterwards, I am completely and totally sober, and the rest of the time I was under the influence of some drug. During that brief moment of sobriety, I wish I could keep that clarity continuously at all times. Essentially cure myself of dysphoria and the need to transition. But then when the sobriety fades,  when the drug is back on, I begin to feel the dysphoria again, the need to transition again, and I fear and avoid the unsustainable clarity that brings guilt and shame. So I've sort of developed an artificial "asexual" attitude to avoid that moment afterwards. I haven't had a date, or so much as held hands for human contact, in 5 years, and another 5 years of celibacy before that as well. I have always felt this way, but only in my recent years have had the will to avoid it. I cast further doubt on my own legitimacy because I see parallels with this pattern, and certain aspects of the "sissy fetish".

For what it's worth, I will note a couple other aspects of my experience that might not be typical.

My earliest memory, it's not dated so I do not know if it is before puberty, is a memory of hating my male parts. The hatred and disgust for those parts was not necessarily accompanied by a desire to be a girl. And not necessarily a feeling of not being a boy. Simply, I hated the parts between my legs. I think fairly quickly though, the desire to have girl parts replace the boy parts did become part of it. Though perhaps not initially. And from the earliest time I had access to the internet, I was researching sex reassignment surgery. But perhaps the weird thing is, I didn't necessarily think I wanted to be a girl in whole and in life. I had no real desire to wear girls clothing or makeup, and I didn't even want breasts. I didn't know HRT was a thing, somehow I had missed that and only knew about the surgical aspect. So I simply wanted to get the SRS and replace my boy parts with a girl parts, but then to continue living normally as I had been, not taking a girl named and wearing girl clothes and wearing makeup and all of the other aspects of femininity that transgender women feel the need to master. I didn't need people to use female pronouns with me, or even recognize me differently. It would just be a difference under my clothes that only I knew and cared about. Basically I guess I just wanted to be a boy with a vagina, but I never actually put it in such thoughts or words until now. I suppressed that because of how ridiculous and inaccessible it was. But then somewhere in my late teens or early twenties, when I failed continuously in my attempts to get a girlfriend or even a date, I promised myself, if I don't find my soulmate by the time I am 30, I will give up and get the SRS I've always wanted. Needless to say, my twenties flew by much faster than I expected. And when I was was still scared to go forward, I just ignored it again for the next two years. Now I'm 32, I have only recently educated myself about the very word "transgender" and all that it implies and entails. And I'm seeking professional help to talk about these things, and also as a step to receiving the HRT. But as I doubt that my therapist will have an in-depth knowledge of a broad variety of experiences, it seems like there was a better chance that someone here could recognize whether this is typical for transgender women or if it means something else. ( like a non-binary thing?)
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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. Stop trying to over analyze this at this point. You are thinking under the influence of Testosterone and your brain wasn't designed to run on it. Yes, testosterone bumps our sex drive way up, just ask any of the FTMs on the site but it also drives our dysphoria up as well. When you masturbate your body produces endorphins  that are far stronger than heron. They acts fast and leaves the body relatively fast but it produced relief from dysphoria (and pain) for a short while.

You lack critical information that you will shortly gain. Starting on HRT, you will receive a blocker that reduces testosterone so you no longer feel it's effect. In addition, you should start getting some experience in public as yourself. The normal response these items is that you become comfortable with our life.

We don't have a mental condition and applying mental terms to it is misleading. Our brain was different from birth and it's a physical condition we suffer from. Therapy is still a good idea because we suffer from years of discomfort with ourself and it helps to learn more about what we are facing but therapy isn't going to change who we are. The only treatment is to match the body to the mind.
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Nevoxia

You are right. I think about it almost 24/7. As if it's the greatest question of my life that I can somehow answer just by thinking. I guess I should just relax about it for a while, go ahead with the HRT, and then see how I feel about it. Somehow the way you put it just makes so much sense. Thank you for taking the time to offer your insight.
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HappyMoni

Quote from: Nevoxia on October 17, 2017, 02:21:08 PM
Thank you all for your responses and kind words.

I've been struggling to find a therapist for a couple years, part of the problem is money, because I don't have health insurance, and part of the problem is that I live in Alabama.

But I recently found a community psychiatry program that appears to be affordable, my first appointment with my therapist is actually coming up next week. While I am not optimistic that they are necessarily qualified as a gender therapist, they do appear to take me seriously because they've already set up an appointment with an endocrinologist, before I have even met the therapist.

Someone asked why I would even think about " ->-bleeped-<-", I can answer that, but I hope I don't offend anyone. Also, I hope I don't hijack my own post into a debate about this. I am aware that many people would use it as a weapon to say that transgender women are never real, but I consider that both may exist separately. The distinction, according to a post elsewhere by a transwoman named Dianna, is that if you have  ->-bleeped-<-, it is mostly part of your masturbation fantasy, and after your masturbation has concluded, all of your feminine feelings disappear instantly and completely. Until the next time. And the truth is, that does somewhat describe my experience. I feel "feminine" all the time, and only occasionally become aroused enough to need to engage in "masturbation" activity. But the activity always includes the fantasy, and immediately afterwards I always feel really awful, and immediately think "what the heck is wrong with me," and "what the heck am I doing to myself." It's not only a feeling of intense shame or guilt, it actually seems like a feeling of intense clarity. As if for just a brief moment afterwards, I am completely and totally sober, and the rest of the time I was under the influence of some drug. During that brief moment of sobriety, I wish I could keep that clarity continuously at all times. Essentially cure myself of dysphoria and the need to transition. But then when the sobriety fades,  when the drug is back on, I begin to feel the dysphoria again, the need to transition again, and I fear and avoid the unsustainable clarity that brings guilt and shame. So I've sort of developed an artificial "asexual" attitude to avoid that moment afterwards. I haven't had a date, or so much as held hands for human contact, in 5 years, and another 5 years of celibacy before that as well. I have always felt this way, but only in my recent years have had the will to avoid it. I cast further doubt on my own legitimacy because I see parallels with this pattern, and certain aspects of the "sissy fetish".

For what it's worth, I will note a couple other aspects of my experience that might not be typical.

My earliest memory, it's not dated so I do not know if it is before puberty, is a memory of hating my male parts. The hatred and disgust for those parts was not necessarily accompanied by a desire to be a girl. And not necessarily a feeling of not being a boy. Simply, I hated the parts between my legs. I think fairly quickly though, the desire to have girl parts replace the boy parts did become part of it. Though perhaps not initially. And from the earliest time I had access to the internet, I was researching sex reassignment surgery. But perhaps the weird thing is, I didn't necessarily think I wanted to be a girl in whole and in life. I had no real desire to wear girls clothing or makeup, and I didn't even want breasts. I didn't know HRT was a thing, somehow I had missed that and only knew about the surgical aspect. So I simply wanted to get the SRS and replace my boy parts with a girl parts, but then to continue living normally as I had been, not taking a girl named and wearing girl clothes and wearing makeup and all of the other aspects of femininity that transgender women feel the need to master. I didn't need people to use female pronouns with me, or even recognize me differently. It would just be a difference under my clothes that only I knew and cared about. Basically I guess I just wanted to be a boy with a vagina, but I never actually put it in such thoughts or words until now. I suppressed that because of how ridiculous and inaccessible it was. But then somewhere in my late teens or early twenties, when I failed continuously in my attempts to get a girlfriend or even a date, I promised myself, if I don't find my soulmate by the time I am 30, I will give up and get the SRS I've always wanted. Needless to say, my twenties flew by much faster than I expected. And when I was was still scared to go forward, I just ignored it again for the next two years. Now I'm 32, I have only recently educated myself about the very word "transgender" and all that it implies and entails. And I'm seeking professional help to talk about these things, and also as a step to receiving the HRT. But as I doubt that my therapist will have an in-depth knowledge of a broad variety of experiences, it seems like there was a better chance that someone here could recognize whether this is typical for transgender women or if it means something else. ( like a non-binary thing?)
Hi and welcome. My name is Moni and I am a happy transsexual when you boil it down(look down to see where I am in transition.) What you describe about cycling feminine to feeling horrible after sexual activity was me to a tee. Many years I dealt with this. It doesn't tell you you are not trans.  I can't say if you are. I might say if you can see how you feel with actual experiences with others, it will tell you a lot. I loved being seen as female in public. It surprised me. I would advocate for therapy and actual experience both. See you around.
Moni
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Nevoxia

Quote from: HappyMoni on October 18, 2017, 05:19:28 AM
   Hi and welcome. My name is Moni and I am a happy transsexual when you boil it down(look down to see where I am in transition.) What you describe about cycling feminine to feeling horrible after sexual activity was me to a tee. Many years I dealt with this. It doesn't tell you you are not trans.  I can't say if you are. I might say if you can see how you feel with actual experiences with others, it will tell you a lot. I loved being seen as female in public. It surprised me. I would advocate for therapy and actual experience both. See you around.
Moni

I'm so glad to know that someone else may have been similar to me and found a positive outcome. It really gives me hope for my own outcome. Thank you for sharing with me. And congratulations on the progress you've made, detailed in your signature. It makes me feel optimistic and look forward to having others with whom I could share the details of my own transition progress. My first appointment with a therapist and endocrinologist are both next week. I will share here if there is anything worth mentioning afterward.
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HappyMoni

Hi Nevoxia,
   I hope you will share and if I can help let me know. I look back to my past and try to keep in mind that for so long I was pulled between what I was, a male by birth and what I wanted to be, a female. On top of that I was a sexual human being in a highly impossible situation. I think this situation distorted my sexuality. It wasn't until I watched myself transition, saw that it was right, and then I realized my mental cycling was finally done. Now, for me, it seems ridiculous that I thought it might be any kind of fetish type thing. You do have to figure yourself out and we are pulling for you.
Moni
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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