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I may be overthinking this

Started by RachClayburn, October 18, 2017, 05:36:33 PM

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RachClayburn

Recently, I came out to my SO, and am in those beginning stages of seeking support/therapy, to work through the various things that need work. I'm feeling good inside, and Rachel is starting to emerge, mentally. As a result, I feel the need to maybe discuss this with others who I'm sure will be supportive, including a couple of coworkers.

One of these coworkers is, herself, a trans woman. She's had electrolysis, top surgery, has legally changed her gender to female, passes as female to, I believe, most anyone, and is really rather successful professionally. Of anyone I know and can talk to, she seems the most appropriate for such conversations. The issue is that I also sometimes feel like I'm not sure if I should trust her, because she generally isn't very discreet. Another part of me thinks this is absurd, because of anyone that I know should be discreet about my personal transgender journey, she seems most likely to be.

It's one of those situations of - Do I trust my instincts, or follow what seems like common sense here? Another facet is that one of her best friends, that she tells pretty much everything to, is my boss. While I do really like my boss, I'm not ready to have that conversation with her, and I fear I could be, even unintentionally, outed to her when they're out having drinks or a spa day, or something of the like.

Is it unusual for one trans person to out another, or am I just being needlessly paranoid about something that should probably be a non-issue? Because of life experiences, I tend to have issues trusting others. I'd like to think I can trust her, but something tells me that maybe I shouldn't. At least not at this time.
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Tessa James

Hey Rachel very good to hear you're coming out.  Transgender people are just like anyone else and while we might hope a shared experience would lead to discretion, trust can be a concern.  I found my coming out story was apparently too juicy a story for many people not to share.  It is in our critical interest to control the narrative.  Only you can tell your personal truth.  Still people do love to gossip and transgender stories are hot right now ;)  People do attempt very limited disclosures and that is harder still if we are transitioning in place.  That is staying at your job, school or home for example.

If you are embarking on your coming out with people for the first time I suggest you consider your very best and most trusted friends/family.  People you are more sure of and know will at least listen.  Sharing your coming out story can be a wonderful experience if scary at first.  I found it brought me closer to family and friends as they respected my vulnerability and often responded with sharing more about themselves.  I am sorry to say that our community and shared vulnerability do not always make us tight knit and protective of each other.  I won't forget getting my worst public take down from a sister who is also trans.  It so surprised me as I thought anyone who has been through this will surely have empathy and compassion right?  We do our best :D
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Dena

The golden rule in therapy and to some degree here is that you don't out somebody. If your coworker hasn't been around others where stealth is important it's very possible she may not keep your secret. Until you are ready to come out or if your sure she can keep a secret it would be best not to tell her. If you want to test her, you might ask her a few questions about her transition and see if she tells you things that she shouldn't but be warned she could also ask you why you are interested.
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RachClayburn



Quote from: Tessa James on October 18, 2017, 05:56:52 PM
Hey Rachel very good to hear you're coming out.  Transgender people are just like anyone else and while we might hope a shared experience would lead to discretion, trust can be a concern.  I found my coming out story was apparently too juicy a story for many people not to share.  It is in our critical interest to control the narrative.  Only you can tell your personal truth.  Still people do love to gossip and transgender stories are hot right now ;)  People do attempt very limited disclosures and that is harder still if we are transitioning in place.  That is staying at your job, school or home for example.

If you are embarking on your coming out with people for the first time I suggest you consider your very best and most trusted friends/family.  People you are more sure of and know will at least listen.  Sharing your coming out story can be a wonderful experience if scary at first.  I found it brought me closer to family and friends as they respected my vulnerability and often responded with sharing more about themselves.  I am sorry to say that our community and shared vulnerability do not always make us tight knit and protective of each other.  I won't forget getting my worst public take down from a sister who is also trans.  It so surprised me as I thought anyone who has been through this will surely have empathy and compassion right?  We do our best :D

Thank you so much for that insight, Tessa. It's given me some valuable perspective on this, and I really appreciate your advice.

HUGS!

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RachClayburn



Quote from: Dena on October 18, 2017, 06:49:09 PM
The golden rule in therapy and to some degree here is that you don't out somebody. If your coworker hasn't been around others where stealth is important it's very possible she may not keep your secret. Until you are ready to come out or if your sure she can keep a secret it would be best not to tell her. If you want to test her, you might ask her a few questions about her transition and see if she tells you things that she shouldn't but be warned she could also ask you why you are interested.

Thank you Dena for that very solid advice. I do know she comes from a very accepting family, so stealth likely has never been something she's needed to worry as much about, but that's merely conjecture on my part. Patience is probably best here, and yeah, she's super sharp, and may already suspect this about me anyway, so trying to pick her brain without lying about myself (Asking for a friend, or such) would definitely not be wise.

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Tessa James

Quote from: RachClayburn on October 18, 2017, 07:45:21 PM

Thank you so much for that insight, Tessa. It's given me some valuable perspective on this, and I really appreciate your advice.

HUGS!

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I will too happily admit to being full of it too often and refer to that old saw; take my advice, I'm not using it ;D  Welcome aboard the best ride in town and yes, we are known as a huggy place.  Love Wins & Hugs Warm Our Hearts
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RachClayburn

Quote from: Tessa James on October 19, 2017, 01:24:06 AM
I will too happily admit to being full of it too often and refer to that old saw; take my advice, I'm not using it ;D  Welcome aboard the best ride in town and yes, we are known as a huggy place.  Love Wins & Hugs Warm Our Hearts

  :D :icon_woowoo: :icon_joy:
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