Types of vaginoplasties

[Mandy M]

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Can someone help me? I hear a lot about penile inversion and even Suporn's technique being 'sealed' and 'non-lubricating.'

However, the prostate gland produces (in my case) a huge amount of ejaculate. Nothing to do with testicles and sperm: it's the gland which secretes a large amount of fluid.

Although most of that fluid appears on orgasm, why is this not part of the lubricating system? Or is it?

And, what exactly is the plumbing for that ejaculate?

Can someone explain those questions in words, rather than resorting to links if at all possible? That's not trying to be awkward, I just would love someone to explain to me here where the fluid from the prostate goes in a vaginoplasty surgery? Do all surgeons plumb it the same way?

Thanks!

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[kelly_aus]

Can someone explain those questions in words, rather than resorting to links if at all possible? That's not trying to be awkward, I just would love someone to explain to me here where the fluid from the prostate goes in a vaginoplasty surgery? Do all surgeons plumb it the same way?

Thanks!

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As it is pre-op, the prostate is connected to the urethra..

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 kelly_aus explain part of the reason not being connect to the new vagina, also the amount of fluid decreases when your T level decreases.

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Ok....just trying to get on board. We are looking to understand how, or if what little ejaculation might exist after year, maybe decades of testosterone suppression, gets into the newly constructed vaginal canal  (?).
No clue. Does it? Can it? ....??

[kelly_aus]

kelly_aus explain part of the reason not being connect to the new vagina, also the amount of fluid decreases when your T level decreases.

I can only think that it's related to the "delicacy" of the prostate and the issues that go along with prostate surgeries.. It would also add the the complexity of SRS, which is already complex enough.

But, honestly, I don't know, you'd have to ask a surgeon.

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Complete, any fluid coming out of the urethra can easily be pushed into the vagina as many cis girls know

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no SRS surgeon want to even touch the prostate as problems with controlling peeing are so common when the prostate is involved in surgery.

[AnonyMs]

I've found the theory of it doesn't help me with understanding what people end up with. There's no way to know if any of its correct, and I know that some of what I commonly hear is wrong. And as far as I can work it out there seems to be little correlation between the theory and what people actually end up with.

I prefer to look at photo's so I can judge the aesthetic results myself and to look for stories of people who've had problems. Even better if you know anyone who can show you in person, and I've seen a few now.

On the subject of lubrication I'd look for stories from people who say they have it or don't rather than trying to understand why.

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So l will offer my personal experience in the hope that it might help. I first started having regular sex with men about a year post -op. It was readily available to me and much more pleasant that dilating. Because I was having a lot of sex and often,  (at least once a day, usually more ) there seemed to always be sufficient moisture to get things started and then  even more as things warmed up.
After my divorce there was a period of about a year where I was not having much sex and neither was l dilating. My second husband was quite large,  both in length and girth and so sex was uncomfortable for both of us.
At that time,  mid 80's l found a surgeon doing colonovaginoplasty. For me this was the greatest discovery since sliced bread. I was able to handle my well endowed husband with no problems and have never worried about lube or dilating since.
I am told a newer even better iteration is now coming on line and would recommend that to anyone interested if normal heterosexual sex with a man.
Just my opinion, of course.  YMMV

[Mandy M]

kelly_aus explain part of the reason not being connect to the new vagina, also the amount of fluid decreases when your T level decreases.

Mine hasn't   I produce a huge amount: mostly on ejaculation, but some pre.

I have zero testosterone.

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[Mandy M]

Anyhow, if I understand this correctly, the prostate ejaculate will continue to go along the urethrea which in trans females doesn't come through the vagina, but above it? Sorry for my ignorance but that's right isn't it? In cis females the pee hole is in the vagina but in trans it isn't?

It's a pity the prostate ejaculate can't be routed into the vagina because it's such an obvious source of lubcrication as well as pleasure.

Sorry if this is all a bit ignorant. I know a lot about hormones and trans psychology but very little about the mechanics of vaginoplasty.

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[Lisa_K]

Anyhow, if I understand this correctly, the prostate ejaculate will continue to go along the urethrea which in trans females doesn't come through the vagina, but above it? Sorry for my ignorance but that's right isn't it? In cis females the pee hole is in the vagina but in trans it isn't?

Umm, a woman's pee hole isn't in her vagina. Maybe a simple anatomy diagram would help?

For a basic idea how penile inversion is performed, check out this animated video of one surgeon's technique. You'll notice at about the 3:40 mark, the unused length of the urethra (pee tube) is opened up and attached to the pre-inverted penile skin. This provides mucosal tissue and does aid some in lubrication.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXx549vixYc&list=FLvvlQFST07f3qo5i9mWCDVw&index=1

Even if you did have ejaculate from the prostate on orgasm, if you're talking about intercourse, you're going to need lubrication well before getting to that point. I have a 40 year old model. I've always had to use lubrication for sex but it isn't that big of a deal. I do have a degree of natural moisture but not enough for penetration or dilation.

[Mandy M]

Hiya, yes sorry I should have been a bit less ignorant and a bit more precise. Apologies.

What I mean, is that a cis-woman's pee hole is below her clitoris, right? So although it's not in her vagina, as you rightly say, it's surely close enough in a trans vaginoplasty for prostate ejaculate to spread into the vagina? It sits between the clitoris and the vagina, no? So on stimulation prostate fluid must surely spread into the vagina and lubricate it?

I do have stacks of prostate ejaculate which is nothing to do with sperm (I don't have testicles).

Mind you, I take your point about ejaculate vs pre-cum. I don't have a huge amount of the latter.

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