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How do I size in women's pants?

Started by GrayKat, November 02, 2017, 09:28:17 PM

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GrayKat

Men's pants is easy.There is waist and inseam, period. But women's is some nebulous numbering system from 0 to whatever. How do I know what to pick? I like to wear tactical military style pants.
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Meghan

Quote from: GrayKat on November 02, 2017, 09:28:17 PM
Men's pants is easy.There is waist and inseam, period. But women's is some nebulous numbering system from 0 to whatever. How do I know what to pick? I like to wear tactical military style pants.
What is your wast size? You should look at size chart to decide what to buy.

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Roll

I'm pretty sure at this point that even most cis-women don't know how to size their pants. My step-mother and sister have to return clothes constantly. I've been playing it safe and buying leggings/jeggings since there is margin for error, and easier just to go off a chart.
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Geeker

The gist of it is you subtract 21 from the men's size to get the women's size, well at least an idea of the women's size for a starting point. From there it's a matter of trying items on.
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ladytiffielou

Just shop and see what fits... Hopefully you have someone supportive behind you to help you out!!

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Meghan

Just don't try petite size since it is to small. I'm am wear size large in Men clothing and I bought size 16 in women's size and it fits me perfectly.

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Bari Jo

I will echo, the just go shopping recommendation.  Youll find a size 10 is a size 12 in another brand.  I really l Iike levis.  Not only do they use ladies sizes, most of the time they also have waist and inseem.

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Katja69

Step 1 - search online for "convert mens pant size to womens"
That will narrow the hunt to within 2-3 sizes

Step 2 - If you are tall, choose # Tall (# T)
I had 2 choices: 10 or 12.  10s fit perfect (in the brand I chose)

Step 3 - Dressing rooms are your friend (embrace them)
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Kendra

Women's sizes tend to throw a curve here and there.
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Faith

Quote from: Geeker on November 02, 2017, 11:28:12 PM
The gist of it is you subtract 21 from the men's size to get the women's size, well at least an idea of the women's size for a starting point. From there it's a matter of trying items on.

That doesn't work for me. That would put me at size 14. In most brands that I have tried I'm a size 11.5. 11 are snug, 12 are loose (wrinkles in all the wrong places, I prefer the 11's :D ). Like you said though, once you're in the ballpark all that you can do is try them on.
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Denise

Each manufacturer had their own sizing.  So I think you'll have trouble finding a set rule.  Also there are other things to consider.

Hips and waist height.  I bought a pair of lower waist and realized that sitting produced, umm crack.  So I only wear them with tunics. 

As others have suggested, try them on.  There is an outlet mall with a Levi's store near me and I just went in and tried them on.  No body cared that I was looking in the women's section.  After all women's jeans are the most comfortable pair of jeans I've ever owned.

One thing though.  If you are on our about to start HRT don't get too many.  The way they now fit is my best indicator that my lower half is changing.

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KathyLauren

There is so much marketing (much of it dishonest) involved in women's clothes sizing that you just have to try stuff on.  I was a 34, gradually reducing to a 32 before transition.  I take a size 10 usually.  At least 10 is my first guess.  If a maker practises size inflation, I may find an 8 fits me better.  Or shrunk second-hand clothes might require a 12.

If you are not out and want to find something that fits without drawing attention to yourself, try this.  Measure your waist.  (Mine was 34.)  Divide by two (=17 for me).  Take a piece of string and tie two knots in it that distance apart (i.e. 17" for me).  Carry the string in your pocket.  When examining a piece of clothing, hold it up on the hanger with the waistband fastened and hold the string next to the waistband.  If the width matches the knots in the string, go try it on!

Unlike men's clothes, where pants have a width and a height, women's sizes do not have a separate height.  Women are all assumed to be proportional. (!)  You may find some clothes marked "tall" or "petite": those refer to non-standard lengths.  If it doesn't say either, then a 10 is just a 10.

I have leaned never to buy anything without trying it on.  No more going to the store, picking up a pair of 34x30s and taking it straight to the cashier.  If I like it, and if the size label says it should fit or if it looks like it could fit, I go and try it.  That goes double for bra sizes, by the way!
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flytrap

It's alot like toddler and boys sizing in that the numbers are relative and don't reflect waist or length. Once you know your general size, it's no different than picking up pants for a guy. You need to pay attention to the rise , but you just get the ones a little bigger or smaller that fit well.
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Paige

Quote from: KathyLauren on November 03, 2017, 07:23:42 AM
If you are not out and want to find something that fits without drawing attention to yourself, try this.  Measure your waist.  (Mine was 34.)  Divide by two (=17 for me).  Take a piece of string and tie two knots in it that distance apart (i.e. 17" for me).  Carry the string in your pocket.  When examining a piece of clothing, hold it up on the hanger with the waistband fastened and hold the string next to the waistband.  If the width matches the knots in the string, go try it on!

Hi Kathy,

Really like your idea about using a string.  I think I may do that for inseam too.

Thanks,
Paige :)
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mm

KathyLauren, you hit right on about trying bras, I never brought a bra that I didn't try on first.  The first one my mom had me put on and she checked how it fit me.
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Meghan

Quote from: mm on November 03, 2017, 08:28:51 AM
KathyLauren, you hit right on about trying bras, I never brought a bra that I didn't try on first.  The first one my mom had me put on and she checked how it fit me.
When I go bra's shopping I always ask sale clerk for bra's fitting since cups size always change when I am on hormones replacement.

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Sarah_P

I've discovered my pant size is anywhere between 8 and 10 (no, I don't mean 9....), depending on the brand. I've mostly bought from goodwill & salvation army, so I really haven't payed much attention to what brands I'm getting. Should probably start making note of that....
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flytrap

The string thing doesn't really work because the waist measurement  depends on the rise of the slacks. The lower the rise, the longer the string has to be.
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natalie.ashlyne

#18
I have to try everything on I have some pants that are size 8, 10, 12, and shirts that are Med Large and xl even 2 xl woman's sizes are so confusing and not regular
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KathyLauren

Quote from: flytrap on November 05, 2017, 11:09:27 AM
The string thing doesn't really work because the waist measurement  depends on the rise of the slacks. The lower the rise, the longer the string has to be.
Oh, I would be so happy if this were true for me!  Unfortunately, my AMAB hips are too straight for there to be a lot of difference.
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