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Started by Julia1996, December 21, 2017, 08:19:29 AM

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Julia1996

Hi guys. I have something I've been wondering about. There have been some posts about how estrogen changes and rewires sex drive and orgasm with MtFs. So I am wondering how yours have changed with testosterone.  And is it true testosterone cause the clitoris to enlarge to the size of a small penis?
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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Elis

No experience with the first question but 2nd is true. Looks and works like any other which is neat. But only grows up to like 2 or just over inches long. And stops growing at around the 2 year mark
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Alexthecat


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CMD042414

Growth of my clitoris happened week 1 and it was actually quite uncomfortable. Almost 4 years in and I am sure it is done growing. Considerably larger than before in length and girth. Not the size of a small penis though. My sex drive went through the roof by the first month. The first 2 years was out of control. Sex ruled my life. It has stabilized but I am still constantly horny. Difference is now I can not think about it when doing other things but as soon as I am home and/or free I need a release.
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Oblivion

My sex drive was crazy for the first 6 months, never thought it could be like that. Orgasms I find a lot easier to reach now I'm on T, had real trouble pre-T so yeah that's better. Lower growth is a thing but no it doesn't get to be the size of a small penis, unfortunately. For me it was an incredibly uncomfortable and painful experience, especially after I'd get my shot.
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Kylo

Huh, that's weird, you guys say it's uncomfortable while growing? I didn't feel a thing and it's grown plenty in the last year. Then again I never got any feeling when the female parts grew in adolescence either.

Main difference between E and T orgasm is the length, focus and after effects. Sensation lasts less time than on E, is focused more around lower body I guess and seems more intense, and the after effects are that you want to rest and you don't tend to want more. At least that is my observation.

Previously it would have the opposite effect of waking me up and making me feel somewhat unsatisfied and thinking hell, I should just do it again in order to feel more tired... it's the opposite now.
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Julia1996

I know my boobs hurt when they were developing but I never thought about your lower growth hurting. I think a sore dick would be worse because that's an area that gets bumped more. Poor guys. I'm sorry it was painful for a lot of you. I've noticed the lag guys have after orgasm. My boyfriend gets that way. He doesn't usually go to sleep because most times he wants to go again but for 10-15 minutes after the first time he gets quiet and just wants to lie there. Then after the second time he usually goes to sleep. He also gets turned on really easy. Sometimes I only need to touch him or say something dirty and he's totally horny. So testosterone does the same stuff to you guys that it does to CIS guys.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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Laurie

  This was an interesting question Julia. I found the answers surprising in the similarity of what I remember before starting hrt and the effect of same, made it a non issue. One difference I had though, was that I don't remember the intensity of release to be all that much nor was I horny "all the time". Now, I think I can count on one hand the times I've even done it since starting hrt and that's in contrast to engaging in self gratification that did become almost an obsession in the couple months prior to starting. Why it became very frequent pastime then, I have no idea. Perhaps my tiny primitive lower brain got an inkling of what was to come and was trying to save it's self.
  So now ,that pleasure is gone and I haven't experienced (nor tried to) the elusive female "O", I have no fun at all. lol Oh well, that's enough of my nonsense.

Hugs,
  Laurie



April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
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Julia1996

Quote from: Laurie on December 22, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
  This was an interesting question Julia. I found the answers surprising in the similarity of what I remember before starting hrt and the effect of same, made it a non issue. One difference I had though, was that I don't remember the intensity of release to be all that much nor was I horny "all the time". Now, I think I can count on one hand the times I've even done it since starting hrt and that's in contrast to engaging in self gratification that did become almost an obsession in the couple months prior to starting. Why it became very frequent pastime then, I have no idea. Perhaps my tiny primitive lower brain got an inkling of what was to come and was trying to save it's self.
  So now ,that pleasure is gone and I haven't experienced (nor tried to) the elusive female "O", I have no fun at all. lol Oh well, that's enough of my nonsense.

Hugs,
  Laurie

You should try having an orgasm on hrt. It's much better. I think guys have different sex drives. Before hrt I was kind of a boy whore and hooked up with a lot of guys. I wasn't interested in self gratification because I really didn't want to touch it. Tyler on the other hand was hyper horny when he was 16-17. He was ALWAYS in the bathroom. He never said he was masturbating in there but come on. Why else would he take a playboy in there with him? Lol.  I think the frequency of self pleasuring is just different for different people.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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PurpleWolf

Quote from: Julia1996 on December 22, 2017, 02:34:00 PM
Tyler on the other hand was hyper horny when he was 16-17. He was ALWAYS in the bathroom. He never said he was masturbating in there but come on. Why else would he take a playboy in there with him? Lol.  I think the frequency of self pleasuring is just different for different people.
Does Tyler read this forum & what you write about him here,  ;D?!! And Tristan?!

That sounds like me 10+.......  ;D Always in the bathroom, yeap.

Interesting to see what T will do to me  ;D!
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Julia1996

Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 23, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
Does Tyler read this forum & what you write about him here,  ;D?!! And Tristan?!

That sounds like me 10+.......  ;D Always in the bathroom, yeap.

Interesting to see what T will do to me  ;D!

Oh god no! Lol I don't think they would appreciate me sharing personal stuff about them. :D. My dad asked if they had a parents of trans kids group here. I told him no. Technically the SO forum could Include parents but I totally didn't want him on here reading stuff I've written. Some of the stuff I've talked about here would be icky and awkward having my dad read it.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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PurpleWolf

Quote from: Julia1996 on December 23, 2017, 01:21:25 PM
Oh god no! Lol I don't think they would appreciate me sharing personal stuff about them. :D. My dad asked if they had a parents of trans kids group here. I told him no. Technically the SO forum could Include parents but I totally didn't want him on here reading stuff I've written. Some of the stuff I've talked about here would be icky and awkward having my dad read it.

Like, totally  ;D! Just don't let your dad in here!
!!!REBIRTH=legal name change on Feb 16th 2018!!!
This is where life begins for me. It's a miracle I finally got it done.


My body is the home of my soul; not the other way around.

I'm more than anything an individual; I'm too complex to be put in any box.

- A social butterfly not living in social isolation anymore  ;D -
(Highly approachable but difficult to grasp)


The past is overrated - why stick with it when you are able to recreate yourself every day
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Julia1996

Quote from: PurpleWolf on December 23, 2017, 01:24:14 PM
Like, totally  ;D! Just don't let your dad in here!

I won't. Lol. Thankfully my dad respects my online privacy.  And I've learned to respect his. I wanted a couple of pictures of my dog my dad had taken. He said he would find them for me when he got home . I told him I could find them and he said no, to leave his laptop alone because he had some personal stuff on there. I thought yeah, right. He's my dad so what personal stuff could he possibly have. Maybe his dumb fantasy football stuff or football stats  that no one cared about. So I got on his laptop and started looking through his picture files trying to find the dog pictures. I was scanning the thumbnails and I caught site of this buff naked guy. I couldn't imagine why my dad had a naked guy picture on his laptop. So I opened it. OMG! The naked guy was my dad!!!! Ewwwww! ! I went blind for a couple of hours but my sight came back. I have no clue why my dad would have a naked picture of himself on his laptop but I certainly wasn't going to ask. Since then I don't touch his laptop!
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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PurpleWolf

Quote from: Julia1996 on December 23, 2017, 01:45:48 PM
I won't. Lol. Thankfully my dad respects my online privacy.  And I've learned to respect his. I wanted a couple of pictures of my dog my dad had taken. He said he would find them for me when he got home . I told him I could find them and he said no, to leave his laptop alone because he had some personal stuff on there. I thought yeah, right. He's my dad so what personal stuff could he possibly have. Maybe his dumb fantasy football stuff or football stats  that no one cared about. So I got on his laptop and started looking through his picture files trying to find the dog pictures. I was scanning the thumbnails and I caught site of this buff naked guy. I couldn't imagine why my dad had a naked guy picture on his laptop. So I opened it. OMG! The naked guy was my dad!!!! Ewwwww! ! I went blind for a couple of hours but my sight came back. I have no clue why my dad would have a naked picture of himself on his laptop but I certainly wasn't going to ask. Since then I don't touch his laptop!

You can't believe how hard I laughed on this one,  ;D!!!!!! Now you can't TOTALLY let your dad in here,  ;D!!!
!!!REBIRTH=legal name change on Feb 16th 2018!!!
This is where life begins for me. It's a miracle I finally got it done.


My body is the home of my soul; not the other way around.

I'm more than anything an individual; I'm too complex to be put in any box.

- A social butterfly not living in social isolation anymore  ;D -
(Highly approachable but difficult to grasp)


The past is overrated - why stick with it when you are able to recreate yourself every day
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sarah1972

Hahaha... you always have the funniest stories....thanks for sharing them and brighten all our days!!!

Quote from: Julia1996 on December 23, 2017, 01:45:48 PM
I won't. Lol. Thankfully my dad respects my online privacy.  And I've learned to respect his. I wanted a couple of pictures of my dog my dad had taken. He said he would find them for me when he got home . I told him I could find them and he said no, to leave his laptop alone because he had some personal stuff on there. I thought yeah, right. He's my dad so what personal stuff could he possibly have. Maybe his dumb fantasy football stuff or football stats  that no one cared about. So I got on his laptop and started looking through his picture files trying to find the dog pictures. I was scanning the thumbnails and I caught site of this buff naked guy. I couldn't imagine why my dad had a naked guy picture on his laptop. So I opened it. OMG! The naked guy was my dad!!!! Ewwwww! ! I went blind for a couple of hours but my sight came back. I have no clue why my dad would have a naked picture of himself on his laptop but I certainly wasn't going to ask. Since then I don't touch his laptop!

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DawnOday

Quote from: Julia1996 on December 22, 2017, 02:34:00 PM
He was ALWAYS in the bathroom. He never said he was masturbating in there but come on. Why else would he take a playboy in there with him? Lol.  I think the frequency of self pleasuring is just different for different people.

Julia   It's not the pictures. It's the articles.  Bwahahahaha
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Laurie

Quote from: DawnOday on December 23, 2017, 06:25:50 PM
Julia   It's not the pictures. It's the articles.  Bwahahahaha

Yep Dawn is correct. It was all the good articles.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it. (Though I did wish I was the girls)
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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SeptagonScars

My sex drive has gotten more intense and more easily satisfied since I started taking testosterone. I also get turned on by the slightest thing (and sometimes really quite weird or awkward non-sexual things too).

Before my sex drive was more lingering and I often didn't even know if I was horny or not until I "found out". It was a lot easier for me to reach multiple orgams before T as well, but it's still possible for me to reach occasionally. But other than that I don't think more things have changed about my sex drive. Not due to taking T at least. My frequency of masturbating hasn't really increased though, it's still once/twice a day since I was 9.

Yes, taking T has increased the size of my clit. Not by a huge amount, I admit, but still. It was about 0,5 cm (0,2 inch) before T and then grew to about 2,5 cm (1 inch) and I doubt it will grow more now as I haven't noticed any more such changes for the past 2-ish years now. (Been on T for 4,5 years). Mine does look and feel very similar to a penis, but yeah albeit a very small one. I like it regardless, though.

It was kind of uncomfortable in the beginning of it growing due to clothes chafing against the tip of it extending further and not being protected by the labia anymore. But eventually I didn't notice the chafing much. I still do sometimes but not enough for it to bother me.
Mar. 2009 - came out as ftm
Nov. 2009 - changed my name to John
Mar. 2010 - diagnosed with GID
Aug. 2010 - started T, then stopped after 1 year
Aug. 2013 - started T again, kept taking it since
Mar. 2014 - top surgery
Dec. 2014 - legal gender marker changed to male
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Jul. 2018 - came out as cis woman and began detransition
Sep. 2018 - stopped taking T and changed my name to Laura
Oct. 2018 - got new ID-card

Medical Detransition plans: breast reconstruction surgery, change legal gender back to female.
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