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autism and lgbt? This really makes me feel like something must be wrong with me?

Started by dmj23, January 16, 2018, 02:24:51 PM

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dmj23

I just was looking up how people with autism have lgbt identities. I didn't know that. I have had a long history of accusations on this. Where people always thought I had it but I have a 136 iq last checked and a 3.24 gpa on my education. And generally the symptoms seem very different for me. I do have some commonalities like physically for one I have a sandal gap. But I have a chromosomal abnormality my pcp believes I have xx/xy chimerism which is in the process of being confirmed. I didn't know though that people with autism have lgbt identities usually. I have the social side to it in common I like one sided conversations and I really don't care what is going through the other person's head because it is really none of my business. Generally when I am conversating it's like when I am at work trying to pass time. I used to be scared of people because my mom would tell me that everyone thought I was weird and crazy so I had a stuttering problem for a while until I got to a point I just didn't give a damn about other people on what they were thinking. Rather to me it's been what am I going to get from the situation if their negative feelings don't affect me I'm not going to care. But I don't get why they are lgbt? Like that supports what some people say about lgbt people. It makes me uncomfortable to admit it for me. Because I always felt like I was different when it came to gender than like most people. Like many cis and transgender people have an identification with gender existing and it belonging to a specific sex. I have never seen it that way and that in itself helps me and defines my sexuality differently. And my gender identity doesn't suffer as badly. Because I never understood gender identity. I wonder if that's more because of being messed up not being able to understand it. I only really understand the sex. Which has always deduced my personality to female even though everything else points the other where. And then sexualitywise I have some things about it that bothers other lgbt people more than it does straight people because they don't really care it seems. But it bothers me to know that those with the disorder have it more because it makes me feel like something might not be right with my perception of things. If this makes sense? Is this a proven fact?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29159906
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Dena

Autism doesn't imply limited intelligence. People with Asperger's can have normal and above normal intelligence. Autism normal indicates that a person may have difficulty with social skills. That said, I have noticed that transgender normally carries with it above normal IQ and we tend to lack some of the social skills. It's possible that struggling with an insolvable problem (being transgender) help develop our ability to reason and our lack of social skill is the result of us not fitting into society as we are. I can't prove if we are in the autistic spectrum or not because the symptoms could be the result of something not related to autism.

You can't change what was but you can identify the issues you need to work on and go forward. That is the growth that happens in therapy and the transition so the more work you put into it, the more you will get out of it. You will see it happen in the member on the forum where they join and you wonder how long they will remain here. Somewhere along the line they find themselves, they start helping others and become a part of the community. Just give it time and you will see it happen to you.
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Gertrude

I have it mildly, IQ of 140. I have 5 kids, 2 of which are diagnosed with autism and a couple others that have something going on. Most of my kids are above average to superior intelligence. A few have social problems. I have 1 boy and 4 girls, so it does affect girls. I was a little facts curator as a kid. So is one of my daughters. She's a lot like my mom, it's freaky because Mom died before she was born.


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SailorMars1994

I was diagnosed with autism, and after years of questioning and feeling shame knowninamntrans without question. People who are uneducated use autism as a correlation of transgender identity because they want people who are trans with or without autism to doubt themselves. Autism, by and large is problems adjusting with social situations/skills and often repetitiveness. Also,  many mildly autistic people actually excel in many areas and came use it to their advantage. I think you have little to worry about
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SailorMars1994

To simplify it, i too had my Autism diagnosis used against me by some to prove I wasn't trans. Years later I have seen that my autism and being transgender neither promotes one and another nor does it cancel one and the other out. I simply am a woman with some very mild autism , or so says the drs xD. I have at times difficulty understand people, yet am very smart in many other ways. I may be socially quirky but I am most importantly me, just like how you are you! Don't do a scare, you are fine!!

PS on a personal front, after living full time as a woman for like ever now, I can say that even if my womanhood was brought on due to autism , which it isn't and has been proven it isn't,I wouldn't care. Give me more of both then, inlove my life now.
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dmj23

I've never been diagnosed as autistic in any sense it's just like I said my personality made people think that. As a child I was very friendly when I was like 5 or 6 and was very affectionate. It's like I said I just got a bad reaction from that point from people about myself. Like I like to be social but if I went for that I'd do everyone harm because no one really likes me to be very social it's not something people are comfortable with


Quote from: Dena on January 16, 2018, 04:20:41 PM
Autism doesn't imply limited intelligence. People with Asperger's can have normal and above normal intelligence. Autism normal indicates that a person may have difficulty with social skills. That said, I have noticed that transgender normally carries with it above normal IQ and we tend to lack some of the social skills. It's possible that struggling with an insolvable problem (being transgender) help develop our ability to reason and our lack of social skill is the result of us not fitting into society as we are. I can't prove if we are in the autistic spectrum or not because the symptoms could be the result of something not related to autism.

You can't change what was but you can identify the issues you need to work on and go forward. That is the growth that happens in therapy and the transition so the more work you put into it, the more you will get out of it. You will see it happen in the member on the forum where they join and you wonder how long they will remain here. Somewhere along the line they find themselves, they start helping others and become a part of the community. Just give it time and you will see it happen to you.
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Colleen_definitely

In my experience, smart people often have aspie like social quirks.  I do scientific stuff for a living and a lot of my scientist customers are ridiculously smart and nearly every single one of them is that way.  I often wonder if it's just a side effect of being brilliant and bored by normal people or totally engrossed in one's work.

I'm above average and have quirks a plenty, but that's mostly from poor socialization as a kid due to family situation, gender dysphoria, and being easily bored by school.  I was told I might have mild Asperger's pre-transition when I was super anxious and depressed but that has improved immensely.
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dmj23

yeah I looked up Asperger's there's a lot more similarity but I like to be social
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Laurie

 Hi Dmj,

  I am not sure we've crossed paths. I'm Laurie. I checked out your linked reference and would like to point out one thing about it. The study was talking about sexual preference rates, not gender identity. That is a pretty big difference What it found was...

"Research suggests that individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) report increased homosexuality, bisexuality, and asexuality, but decreased heterosexuality"

  That is different than gender identity. At least that was my take on it.

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dmj23

Quote from: Laurie on January 16, 2018, 09:04:35 PM
Hi Dmj,

  I am not sure we've crossed paths. I'm Laurie. I checked out your linked reference and would like to point out one thing about it. The study was talking about sexual preference rates, not gender identity. That is a pretty big difference What it found was...

"Research suggests that individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) report increased homosexuality, bisexuality, and asexuality, but decreased heterosexuality"

  That is different than gender identity. At least that was my take on it.

Hugs,
  Laurie


well I identify as gay so either it's kind of why I feel discouraged but thank you for your input
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JMJW

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23897727

If this happened to me , where "treatment was withheld" because of Asperger Syndrome, I would be upset to say the least.
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