I want to be a wet nurse? Need input from anyone with experience

[Asakawa]

I have thought about this multiple times and I think that, if I could, I would like to be a wet nurse. Am I shooting too high here? I am not very knowledgeable on the field to be honest, but I have always seen lactation as, like, the top of femininity! Since I am not very knowledgeable I wanted to see if anyone could share any insight on this? I know that as a MTF trans this is a very unlikely scenario and hard .

[Dena]

While it's possible, you would need to have a discussion with your Endo. It requires a carefully  administered hormone routine over about a 9 month time period to accomplish. I have seen a few threads where this has been discussed and accomplished on this site but for me, the experience wouldn't be worth the trouble.

[Asakawa]

What about the social aspect of it? How easily could it be achieved? What about acceptance? I wish I could pass 100%, but I can't . I think there will always be something male about me that others will pick up. I wish I was, like, 100% femme, but I'm not . If I were 100% it would be much easier, but what if I can never be 100% passable? Then what will I do? Will I be left at the mercy of adult nursing relationships??? I mean, I think I have read that breast milk is able to help with cancer when consumed? Not sure how much truth there is to that.

[salaniaseviltwin]

"What about the social aspect of it?"

The social aspect of it, would be up to you. The only people that should know about your actions on this topic, should be yourself, your doctor, and your SO if you have one. Unless you are nursing in public. And if you do manage it, make sure you wear nursing shields. Otherwise, you might leak through your tops.

"How easily could it be achieved?"

I don't mean to discourage you, but unfortunately it's not easily achieved whatsoever. Even the majority of adopting mother's typically need to supplement with a formula for their children if they wish to try to breast feed. And for cis-gendered women they usually have to start any routines approximately 3-4 months prior to when birth from a surrogate will occur or they know whether or not they will be adopting.
Typical routines try to mimic certain hormone levels of pregnant women, with a sudden stop causing prolactin levels to skyrocket while others rapidly decline, causing the women to have a higher chance of inducing lactation.
I will say, because we are trans and most of us have been on some form of a regimen of hormonal editing, we are more capable than our make counter-parts, but often times less capable than our cisters.

"What about acceptance?"

Acceptance, I can't really say anything about.

"I wish I could pass 100%, but I can't . I think there will always be something male about me that others will pick up. I wish I was, like, 100% femme, but I'm not . If I were 100% it would be much easier, but what if I can never be 100% passable? Then what will I do?"

When it comes to being passable or not, just remember all the celebrities that have had issues with some form of the public questioning their gender. Ciara, Kesha, Sandra Bullock; all of them have had a spotlight thrown on them for questions regarding their gender, Ciara and Kesha because of "Hermaphrodite" rumors, and Sandra Bullock for the excess cartilage on her larynx.

"Will I be left at the mercy of adult nursing relationships[emoji47]"

While there are people that enjoy it, that would be up to you.

"I mean, I think I have read that breast milk is able to help with cancer when consumed? Not sure how much truth there is to that."

There are studies that have shown some form of increase in white blood cell count(?) with a correlation to drinking a nursing mother's milk, I don't recall the actual results or purpose of the study.

Either way, discuss it with your doctor, they will be able to determine if it's something you could safely dive in to, if so good luck and keep us updated. It is something you will have to be patient about and my understanding is that it can get rather painful.

I hope I didn't discourage you, I was merely stating any information I currently have.

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[Mendi]

I feel for you, that is something also that I've been thinking about lately very much, especially since I don't have any children and now I wont ever have. I'm also slightly disappointed, that unfortunately this body will always remain somewhat damaged, it might look great outside, but interiors are damaged beyond repair.

The situation isn't made any easier, that I work as a nurse in children's hospital.

I still remember vividly a situation few weeks ago, where I was feeding a baby from a bottle. I was holding her like babies are held, close to my chest and could feel her through my small growing breasts. In the same room, there was a mother breast feeding her own baby.

The situation was just something out of this world. The dysphoria that I felt, well I'm not sure if it even was dysphoria anymore. I felt like I would leave this body.....whatever I am, a spirit etc, would just leave this body there and never come back.

Felt extremely good and at the same time the realization, that I will never be like that mother breast feeding.

There is something about my small growing breasts. When I hold children in my lap and feel them leaning to my breasts, it feels good, but at the same time I realize, that the breasts will never be used in their original purpose. They might look good in years to come, but essentially those are just decorations.

[Mikaela]

You mention your concerns about not being able to be 100% femme, and that brings up something for me. I hear this a lot from mtf women. If you look at it closely, though, you have to ask yourself what that really means. Are all cis women 100% femme? We are as bad as cis women, in some ways, constantly comparing ourselves to an unrealistic ideal, portrayed by media and marketing. We, of all people, should shift our focus on being our true selves! We are rock stars, going to great lengths to shift our bodies to be more in line with our inner life. Have we done the work to even know deeply what that is? Maybe I'm a more of a geeky tomboy gal, more comfortable in front of a computer in my sweats. Or a girl who enjoys swinging an ax and working around the farm. Not all cis women are ultra feminine, either. It's more important, if we're going to go to all this work, to get comfortable in our new, smoother skin, than it is to look like the cover of cosmo. 


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[sarah1972]

There are a few facebook groups on the topic of nursing for MTF women. Some are really lucky and they can lactate easily but for most it does involve taking additional medication to induce lactation. It also requires a strict pumping regimen every few hours when trying to get lactation going. There are certain protocols one can follow which includes medication and pumping and there have been several success stories. An additional, and not uncommon issue, is that you may not produce large amounts of milk. This is an issue which also happens to many cis females.

[mako9802]

Domperidone works very well....Not going to say how to get it but you will lactate.  How much is the only question.  Don't do it though.

[Asakawa]

I know it pretty much is estrogen + Progesterone + prolactin and I've taken domperidone before for a little while. However, just recently there was a warning issued for the med I think in 2014:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4275141/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domperidone#Rare_reactions

Domperidone use is associated with an increased risk of sudden cardiac death (by 70%)[36] most likely through its prolonging effect of the cardiac QT interval and ventricular arrhythmias.[37][38] The cause is thought to be blockade of hERG voltage-gated potassium channels.[39][40] The risks are dose-dependent, and appear to be greatest with high/very high doses via intravenous administration and in the elderly, as well as with drugs that interact with domperidone and increase its circulating concentrations (namely CYP3A4 inhibitors).[41][42] Conflicting reports exist, however.[43] In neonates and infants, QT prolongation is controversial and uncertain.[44][45]

UK drug regulatory authorities (MHRA) have issued the following restriction on domperidone in 2014 due to increased risk of adverse cardiac effects:

Domperidone (Motilium) is associated with a small increased risk of serious cardiac side effects. Its use is now restricted to the relief of nausea and vomiting and the dosage and duration of use have been reduced. It should no longer be used for the treatment of bloating and heartburn. Domperidone is now contraindicated in those with underlying cardiac conditions and other risk factors. Patients with these conditions and patients receiving long-term treatment with domperidone should be reassessed at a routine appointment, in light of the new advice.

However, a 2015 Australian review concluded the following:[42]

Based on the results of the two TQT (the regulatory agency gold standard for assessment of QT prolongation) domperidone does not appear to be strongly associated with QT prolongation at oral doses of 20 mg QID in healthy volunteers. Further, there are limited case reports supporting an association with cardiac dysfunction, and the frequently cited case-control studies have significant flaws. While there remains an ill-defined risk at higher systemic concentrations, especially in patients with a higher baseline risk of QT prolongation, our review does not support the view that domperidone presents intolerable risk.

Someone did mention to me that usually when you are on high levels of E + P your Prolactin naturally goes high. That and also nipple stimulation will make your prolactin levels raise temporarily.

You do pretty much have to pump every one hour including also when you sleep or at least getting up int he middle of the night to pump. I believe eating milk producing food is also a good idea and when ready to lactate you have to come off the hormone program. I was asking mainly more on the society arch and how a MTF lactation nurse would fit in the whole grand scheme of things. I guess if all fails there are always the adult nursing relationships.

[salaniaseviltwin]

If I remember correctly those of us in the USA aren't capable of getting Domperidone from or pharmacies, but can legal obtain it with a prescription from Canada? Is this still true?

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