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Moni's The Tipping Point in Transition and Normalization

Started by HappyMoni, February 02, 2018, 08:14:34 PM

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HappyMoni

Oh my gosh, I am so grateful for you sharing this Kendra and Rachel. You both have amazing lessons presented so eloquently here. Rachel, it tears my heart out that your ex would say that to you. I am in awe of the strength you have both shown in your individual ways. Not  only that, but you are shining examples of getting through a lot hurtles and pain to normalize your lives and be happy in your true genders. It certainly isn't the end of our stories. We have more battles to fight, but I think that someone reading your stories can't help but find inspiration. To any new people reading this, the paths are very different but a happy ending can happen.
Moni
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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Kendra

My worst struggles were not immediately before starting transition but I definitely had my low spots.  When my voice changed in the mid 1970s I became suicidal and angry and quit many activities I had enjoyed, including music.  I knew where the family's shotgun and ammunition was stored and considered it, and I remember my hand on the car's door handle thinking about jumping out at 70mph (110kph).  In the decades that followed I had to lose 1/3 of body weight (my waistline is 16" / 40cm smaller than mid 1990s), drank a ridiculous amount of alcohol (quit in 2003) and ignored my health - because I didn't like who I was.  Taking care of other issues paved the way for recognizing what the actual problem was.  I knew the answer when I was an early teenager but shut all that down as impossible.  And then I started exploring, and talking to people here.

We each have unique backgrounds.  I am pretty open about mine in case that might help others, much as others helped me understand what is possible.
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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HappyMoni

   I feel motivated to talk about one of the earliest tipping points and that is realizing one is trans and, in my case, later in life. Last night, I finished the survey about heath care put out by Susan. I have had very supportive health care people. I decided to type in 'transgender' into You Tube and see what came up. Others have had vastly different experiences from me , so I thought I would explore a bit.  I came upon this video of a guy acting like a scientist. I will go into as little detail about his main thesis as it is toxic in my opinion. He would refer to M to feminine instead of male to female. He spoke of those of us who transition later in life  with a smirk on his face. He would basically sum us up as being a group of people driven to act female because of sexual desire. I came away from it thinking about the poor people just exploring their gender issues and happening upon this video. I could see how it would confuse them and maybe discourage them from their own real self discovery. So, how did this apply to my journey? When I was young, I would go to sleep at night as early as four years old and dream of being female. It was very pleasant thinking on my part, but not sexual in any way. I was not a child like Jazz or maybe Julia here on Susan's. I went along with the 'male plan' that everyone in my life had for me. It was possible for me because of my particular make up. It was a battle. When puberty hit, this feminine aspect of me was incorporated into my sexual thoughts. Not having the body match my thoughts of who my mind said I was, made for difficult times. My sexual thought pattern got squeezed in a sense. It intensified my femininity at times only to have it come crashing down in the reality that being a female was out of reach for me. This process could easily be mistaken by me or some some pseudo scientist type as a sexually driven femininity. More importantly some newbies out there might buy into his views and wander in limbo for years thinking, "It is just sexual, this thing that drives me." I lived that limbo  for decades. I was convinced I wasn't 'trans enough' to do anything. Would you like further proof that it wasn't what I thought, just a sexual thing? Well, at 57 years old, I couldn't stand the battle any longer. I had to try something. I did transition. If what this guy says about this being a sexual thing was true, as my drive went down with the  hormones, I would be less feminine, less happy, less comfortable. The opposite was true. Believe me, I watched myself, thinking that with each step I took, my world might fall in on me. The reality was this. Sexuality was less important to who I was than I thought. Living female was right, comfortable for me. Every personal interaction is better with me as a female instead of as a male. Getting my body right was amazing, never a second thought that it was wrong. I am finally a whole person.
   So why am I writing this? It is a cautionary tale for those of you exploring your own gender story. You will come upon people passing themselves off as scientists. They will try to stick you in a box and slap on a label telling you your claims of who you are are illegitimate, a perversion, bogus. Don't let them convince you that what you feel is this bla bla bla classic pattern that  some scientist created. You are the expert of you. You may not know all your answers yet, and that is okay. I just sat there last night  watching this smug guy talk about how he knows trans. He knows nothing. If anyone is perverse, it is the person who gets his jollies out of demeaning trans people without a clue as to what it is really like being trans. Lol, I'm woman enough to admit I don't really understand 'cis.'
Moni
I am woman, hear me roar! (Someone should write a song)
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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TonyaW



Quote from: HappyMoni on March 10, 2018, 09:05:05 AM
    When I was young, I would go to sleep at night as early as four years old and dream of being female. It was very pleasant thinking on my part, but not sexual in any way. I was not a child like Jazz or maybe Julia here on Susan's. I went along with the 'male plan' that everyone in my life had for me. It was possible for me because of my particular make up. It was a battle. When puberty hit, this feminine aspect of me was incorporated into my sexual thoughts. Not having the body match my thoughts of who my mind said I was, made for difficult times. My sexual thought pattern got squeezed in a sense. It intensified my femininity at times only to have it come crashing down in the reality that being a female was out of reach for me. This process could easily be mistaken by me or some some pseudo scientist type as a sexually driven femininity. More importantly some newbies out there might buy into his views and wander in limbo for years thinking, "It is just sexual, this thing that drives me." I lived that limbo  for decades. I was convinced I wasn't 'trans enough' to do anything. Would you like further proof that it wasn't what I thought, just a sexual thing? Well, at 57 years old, I couldn't stand the battle any longer. I had to try something. I did transition. If what this guy says about this being a sexual thing was true, as my drive went down with the  hormones, I would be less feminine, less happy, less comfortable. The opposite was true. Believe me, I watched myself, thinking that with each step I took, my world might fall in on me. The reality was this. Sexuality was less important to who I was than I thought. Living female was right, comfortable for me. Every personal interaction is better with me as a female instead of as a male. Getting my body right was amazing, never a second thought that it was wrong.

Um... yeah. 

Though a tad younger at the start of my transition (54), this portion is almost word for word my experience.

Add in that I was(and still am) pretty happy with most things in my life and I can see why I had questioned whether I really could be trans. 

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steph2.0

Quote from: HappyMoni on March 10, 2018, 09:05:05 AM
   I feel motivated to talk about one of the earliest tipping points and that is realizing one is trans and, in my case, later in life. Last night, I finished the survey about heath care put out by Susan. I have had very supportive health care people. I decided to type in 'transgender' into You Tube and see what came up. Others have had vastly different experiences from me , so I thought I would explore a bit.  I came upon this video of a guy acting like a scientist. I will go into as little detail about his main thesis as it is toxic in my opinion. He would refer to M to feminine instead of male to female. He spoke of those of us who transition later in life  with a smirk on his face. He would basically sum us up as being a group of people driven to act female because of sexual desire. I came away from it thinking about the poor people just exploring their gender issues and happening upon this video. I could see how it would confuse them and maybe discourage them from their own real self discovery. So, how did this apply to my journey? When I was young, I would go to sleep at night as early as four years old and dream of being female. It was very pleasant thinking on my part, but not sexual in any way. I was not a child like Jazz or maybe Julia here on Susan's. I went along with the 'male plan' that everyone in my life had for me. It was possible for me because of my particular make up. It was a battle. When puberty hit, this feminine aspect of me was incorporated into my sexual thoughts. Not having the body match my thoughts of who my mind said I was, made for difficult times. My sexual thought pattern got squeezed in a sense. It intensified my femininity at times only to have it come crashing down in the reality that being a female was out of reach for me. This process could easily be mistaken by me or some some pseudo scientist type as a sexually driven femininity. More importantly some newbies out there might buy into his views and wander in limbo for years thinking, "It is just sexual, this thing that drives me." I lived that limbo  for decades. I was convinced I wasn't 'trans enough' to do anything. Would you like further proof that it wasn't what I thought, just a sexual thing? Well, at 57 years old, I couldn't stand the battle any longer. I had to try something. I did transition. If what this guy says about this being a sexual thing was true, as my drive went down with the  hormones, I would be less feminine, less happy, less comfortable. The opposite was true. Believe me, I watched myself, thinking that with each step I took, my world might fall in on me. The reality was this. Sexuality was less important to who I was than I thought. Living female was right, comfortable for me. Every personal interaction is better with me as a female instead of as a male. Getting my body right was amazing, never a second thought that it was wrong. I am finally a whole person.
   So why am I writing this? It is a cautionary tale for those of you exploring your own gender story. You will come upon people passing themselves off as scientists. They will try to stick you in a box and slap on a label telling you your claims of who you are are illegitimate, a perversion, bogus. Don't let them convince you that what you feel is this bla bla bla classic pattern that  some scientist created. You are the expert of you. You may not know all your answers yet, and that is okay. I just sat there last night  watching this smug guy talk about how he knows trans. He knows nothing. If anyone is perverse, it is the person who gets his jollies out of demeaning trans people without a clue as to what it is really like being trans. Lol, I'm woman enough to admit I don't really understand 'cis.'
Moni
I am woman, hear me roar! (Someone should write a song)

Wow. I have little more to add, other than thank goodness I didn't let such BS  on YouTube and otherwise get to me - though my own self doubts held me back for 50 years, so I guess other people's bizarre diagnoses weren't needed.

Otherwise, all I have to say is "ditto." Thanks for writing about my life, Moni.

Stephanie


Assigned male at birth 1958 * Began envying sister 1963 * Knew unquestioningly that I was female 1968 * Acted the male part for 50 years * Meltdown and first therapist session May 2017 * Began HRT 6/21/17 * Out to the world 10/13/17 * Name Change 12/7/2017 (Girl Harbor Day) * FFS With FacialTeam 12/4/2018 * Facelift and Lipo Body Sculpting at Ocean Clinic 6/13-14/2019 * GCS with Marci Bowers 9/25/2019
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HappyMoni

So I am waking this thread from the dead. Wake up, wake up! 

(Possible trigger alert for F to M readers, next paragraph.)


I am getting close to a point of no return for me. It's funny to think that GCS was not my point of no return, but if I had a reason to, I could go out in public at this point and still pretend to be male. To be clear, there has not been once second in the last 10 months that I have regretted GCS. I love it! No, once I have boobs, that will be the point where there is no option to bail and believably take that male role. I want the surgery so bad I can taste it. I believe it to be the missing piece to me seeing myself as a functioning sexual being. It will also mark the ending point for my transition. I don't think there will be any more surgeries after this. (Possibly a small GCS revision, not sure yet) It kind of hit me today that when I was in my transition, I concentrated on how to act. With the end of transition, I will concentrate on how to be.

One personal note for anyone who knows me. I don't often spend a lot of time wondering 'what could have been.' I think it takes away from the life I have finally found. Like the name says, I am happy. Today, on the way to work, I did start thinking about when I was young and my sister was still alive. I look back. We were so close. I see now that it was always messed up by the fact that I had to be a guy. I regret all the things that we could have done as sisters. Wow this is why I don't allow myself to think this way often. It sucks!
Moni
If I ever offend you, let me know. It's not what I am about.
"Never let the dark kill your light!"  (SailorMars)

HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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Anne Blake

Moni, I hope that you can get to the point that you realize that the tipping point, whatever that is for you, had already taken place and you are the woman you feel or want to be. I had just that kind of moment last Sunday. Deb and I were strolling in the mall and walked into a specialty dress shop. After looking through an amazing selection, I chose a dress to try on. There I stood, a crazy old woman looking at herself in the mirror wearing the most beautiful wedding gown and so many unrealized dreams came to fulfilment....in an instant my eyes filled with tears. Next August there will be a wedding joining two crazy ladies....yes, both of us full and complete women. I have no idea when the tipping point took place but there is no doubt about who I am. Although I must admit it is amazing and confusing to be asking my friends to be my maids of honor and both Deb and I fighting over who gets to ask whom. And what an honor to ask one of my best friends to walk me down the aisle.....

You have known me for some time now, have you seen a tipping point? Has there been one or does there need to be one? I used to think that I needed a point or series of actions, surgeries, realizations, whatever to allow myself to be me. Right now, it is all to difficult to understand. The intellectual analytical in me doesn't really care about that anymore. My intention is to live the remaining years that I have as fully and completely as me, Tia Anne. I truly hope that you can get to this point soon.

Your sister,
Tia
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