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Female envy vs sexual attraction?

Started by Paige, February 06, 2018, 06:16:01 PM

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Paige

Wow thanks everyone for all the responses.  It certainly sounds like others have a bit of uncertainty in this area. :)

Gallinarosa as far as my attraction, I'm not 100% sure, perhaps there's a bisexual side to me.  I've never explored this, I may be in denial but I have so many hangups with maleness I some how doubt I would ever go there.  Perhaps I would end up asexual.

It's kind of academic for me.  My SO isn't the least bit happy about me transitioning.  She barely tolerates me taking low dose E.  If I do take the plunge, we will probably divorce after 30 years together.   She doesn't want to be in a lesbian relationship.

Take care,
Paige :)
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Sarah_P

I wondered about this when I began my transition. I knew I was definitely attracted to men. I've only ever dated women (long long ago), and remember how uncomfortable I felt about sex. Yes, I enjoyed it physically, but not mentally or emotionally. I know now that I was just not comfortable with who I was and my supposed role.
Now that I've been transitioning, I can say without a doubt that I am definitely attracted to men AND women. Right now I think I lean more towards men, but that may be because I've repressed that side of me my entire life & want to finally explore it. But I'd definitely still be open to a relationship with another woman.
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Charlie Nicki

Quote from: gallinarosa on February 07, 2018, 07:58:09 PM
I am now wondering if this is something lesbians have always dealt with? (This is one of those places where suddenly being in a lesbian relationship can be confusing for a straight girl.) I wonder if it would be too obnoxious to ask some of my friends ;-)

Well having lived as a gay man for most of my life, I can tell you it can definitely happen. In my case, I was never envious of any of my ex boyfriends, it was more like I felt the need to keep up and be just as good as they were in whatever they were better than me. In my head it was some sort of competition where I couldn't allow myself to be less attractive than they were. This can of course get really mentally and physically exhausting, for example if you're not naturally motivated or inclined to be a gym rat yet your significant other is one. This is probably one of the things I'm happy I will never have to feel again! Although knowing my luck, I'll end up being a lesbian and will still have this problem lol. Kidding! maybe not.


Quote from: gallinarosa on February 07, 2018, 07:58:09 PMThank you all for being inclusive. It really is nice. And if my spouse reads this: I swear, dear, I am not freaking out. I am just uncontrollably curious. Hahaha!

You are the best.
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JulieAllana

I wonder how often trans women hook up with each other?
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judithlynn

This is a very interesting topic.

Like Ashley, for my entire life I have had a lot of relationships with women. I have been married and had live in partners. However what I never knew until about 5 years ago was that I had very very low Testosterone levels (about 5.2 when I restarted HRT) which is below normal for a male.  Having transitioned twice , I realised early on especially with my wife (who was incredibly beautiful, talented (although when I met her full of self doubt), although with my encouragement she eventually became a very successful author, She was very sexual, but  the thing I could never give her and which eventually led to the break-up was sexual penetration as basically I was impotent. Of course in my mind I always envied her. But with her and all the other women in my life we have always had great "Lesbian" sexual relationships.

Of course as I became older I realised that basically over the many years I had always envied these women. With some especially my wife I adored her - sort of put on a pedestal. So when she had an affair (for the sexual penetration) and I made the mistake with her blurting that I thought I was trangender, this destroyed the marriage instantly.

Interestingly the one relationship with a woman that did last a long time was with a woman that I never  found sexually attractive with us forming a firm bond.

These days especially in the last 4 years since I  re-started my transition (the first time I lived for nearly 3 years full time) where I have been on a full HRT dose and especially in the last 4-6 months my sexual attraction has changed to probably more like bi-sexual. I am still attracted to women, but increasingly find men very nice.  Its probably because from my latest blood assays, it turns out that my body is no longer producing any Testosterone and my T levels are very small, with LH levels well below 1.  My Oestrogen levels however are consistently between 450-610 depending on when during the day my blood tests done. Also I have just completed my 3rd month on Progesterone (Promethium) which is also having an effect. As my doctor explain, Judith you are very definitely Hormonally female.
Now my hero worship of women is over, although I do still notice when a women is nicely dressed or with attractive make-up, but I am starting to really be attracted to men.

I am probably too late to be married to a man, but a nice relationship with a loving man (or dominant woman) would be nice at my time in life.
Judith

:-*
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Michelle_P

Quote from: JulieAllana on February 08, 2018, 03:54:38 PM
I wonder how often trans women hook up with each other?

In older lesbian social circles in my region, that is about all that is considered acceptible by many.   Some social groups here look down on and may ostracize a cisgender lesbian that associates or 'hooks up' with an out or non-passing transgender lesbian.  I dislike this behavior, but engaging in this sort of thing is their choice.

They don't know what they are missing.   ;)

I know several transwoman couples.  Hey, they are happy, and love each other.  I'm good with that.
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Violet10Dencies

I can relate to a lot of the other comments. Only looking back on it now does it seem very clear that is was more envy than attraction, at least in high school and college. The attraction aspect was and still is there, but now I'm able to distinguish between the two (most of the time, haha).

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pamelatransuk

Hello Paige

You initiated a really deep and interesting debate.

I am sorry your SO is opposed to your transition and does not want to be in a lesbian relationship. I hope you can find an amicable solution. Perhaps that would be transitioning and staying with your SO in an asexual friendship just like so many of us older ones do.

I wish you happiness.

Pamela


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Paige

Quote from: pamelatransuk on February 10, 2018, 05:18:41 AM
Hello Paige

You initiated a really deep and interesting debate.

I am sorry your SO is opposed to your transition and does not want to be in a lesbian relationship. I hope you can find an amicable solution. Perhaps that would be transitioning and staying with your SO in an asexual friendship just like so many of us older ones do.

I wish you happiness.

Pamela

Thanks for the support Pamela.  We've talked about an asexual relationship but I don't think she would really be interested in that.  I'm starting to believe this is my destiny and I'm hoping we can figure something out but if we don't, we certainly tried.

Take care, glad you like the thread :)
Paige :)
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