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Am I really trans? (FTM)

Started by Mitenka, February 21, 2018, 01:16:31 AM

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Mitenka

Hi everyone,

I guess I'm struggling right now to trust how I'm feeling and to process how I feel about my gender and body. I feel a deep disconnect between my body and who I am inside. I'm AFAB and I've always felt a certain level of disgust towards my breasts, hips, vagina, etc. I've kind of felt like an "alien" for a long time I guess, stuck in this body and completely bewhildered as to what to do with it or how I'm supposed to relate to it. When I imagine having a body that is coded as male, I feel so much more of a connection, it feels "right".

I also feel this rush of joy when people use male pronouns for me, or mistake me for a boy. I've always related much more strongly to male characters in books and movies, and found it really difficult to relate to girls. I always wanted to hang out with boys more and do "boy" things, but the way my family and background is (INCREDIBLY conservative and very strictly gendered) made me feel insecure around them. I kind of ended up inhabiting this half-way place, never feeling fully accepted or whole.

The issue is that at the same time I really like a lot of "feminine" things, from an aesthetic standpoint. I think things like makeup and dresses and so on are beautiful. I think well-dressed, beautiful, glamorous women are completely enchanting. I also feel that way about well-dressed, beautiful men, haha. I love fashion, and when I was younger I was just as likely to love playing with a sword as with a doll, though one choice was "indulged" up to a certain point and the other was actively rewarded.

I also am really uncomfortable now with a lot of masculine performance when it comes to emotions, sex, and so on. I'm 25 now -- when I was 19 and first allowed myself to express the conflict I felt when it came to gender, and started using he/him pronouns when I was around 21, I subscribed to a lot of the toxic masculine behavior that society expects, but at this stage I feel like I can see it from an outside perspective and reject it. Does all this mean I'm not actually a guy? I've also always been incredibly attracted to androgyny and androgynous expression, the way people like Tilda Swinton, David Bowie, etc perform gender, but when I tried to identify as androgyne there was this constant little voice n my head saying "this isn't enough for me. This isn't quite right." Is that my own internalized transphobia when it comes to being non-binary? Or is it because I am a trans man? I'm just feeling incredibly confused right now, and I'd really appreciate some insight from others.

I've been trying to present more feminine in recent years for a whole range of reasons, ranging from my family's complete horror and abuse when I tried to come out as trans a few years ago, to wanting to indulge and embrace my love of feminine things. But every day I've felt like I had to pick a character to "be" that day. I'd pick an actress or a film or book character who was female to "be", otherwise I couldn't face the day. I felt like I was constantly on a stage, that my slightest wrong move would result in complete disaster I was too terrified to even contemplate.

My dysphoria kind of ebbs and flows. Some days it's completely crushing, and I can barely function, and have panic attacks. Other days I'm kind of indifferent and try to find joy in the material aspects of performing femininely -- makeup and clothes and image. Other times I just feel kind of numb, like I'm looking at myself on a screen, or from outside my body, directing my performance.

I'm sorry I've rambled so much and it's probably all a jumbled mess, but this is kind of where I'm at, and I'm really struggling trying to pinpoint who I am in all of this and where to go from here. I'd really appreciate any insight from you guys, especially perhaps trans people who don't fit the dominant narrative. There's a huge, huge part of me that wants to be able to say, I'm a trans man, but there's another part that's terrified about what that means, and another part of me that worries that I don't have the "right" to say that, because of all this internal conflict. Please let me know what you all think, and thank you so much if you've taken the time to read through my existential angsting, let alone respond, lol :) Wishing you all well.
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VaxSpyder

You can be a trans man and still like feminine things!
Favorite authors and poets - JRR Tolkien, HP Lovecraft, Stephen King, George RR Martin, Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac, Homer

Favorite video games - Assassin's Creed, Dark Souls/Bloodborne, Elder Scrolls, retro NES and SNES games

Favorite movies - Classic horror movies, superhero movies, Lord of the Rings

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Elis

If you question you're trans more than likely you are trans; ask any cis person and it would never have occurred to them to question their assigned gender. It's perfectly normal to not have a consistent level of dysphoria. Same with any medical condition; some days you are coping fine others you're not .

And not every trans person fits into the stereotypical clichéd trans narrative. I certainly didn't.
They/them pronouns preferred.



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CallMeKatie

I know I am a girl inside yet I love sci-fi, computer games and football.
My sister is a cis woman who loves motorbikes and rugby.

What you enjoy doesn't make you who you are :)
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AprilRyan

Yep, I absolutely agree that what you enjoy doesn't make you who you are inside. I'm a girl who is a huge geek, gamer, and metalhead, all things that are generally thought of as more "male" interests, but that doesn't make me any less of a woman. I was driving my car with my best friend with me a few days ago listening to Testament and Iron Maiden and she commented that I was the only girl she knew that was into metal, I said "There are plenty of girls out there who listen to metal, just because you personally don't know any doesn't mean there aren't any out there."


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Jessica

Hi Mitenka! Welcome to Susan's Place!  I'm Jessica.  I'm a mtf woman that still enjoys doing what I always have.  Just because I'm changing my gender, it doesn't mean I'm not comfortable doing things like off road, fishing, etc.  I now am comfortably able to do new things that were awkward before, like nails, makeup and hair.  And like Elis said, "If you question you're trans more than likely you are trans".

I see your new here, so I'll post some links that may help you get better acquainted with the site.

Please feel free to stop by the introductions forum
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,8.0.html to tell the members about yourself.

Things that you should read



"If you go out looking for friends, you are going to find they are very scarce.  If you go out to be a friend, you'll find them everywhere."


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FinallyMichelle

Hi Mitenka,

I never know how appreciated it is to comment on the female to male questions. Haha, I have never even liked that distinction, mtf or ftm, it seems like an oversimplification.

So much of my life has been spent babysitting, the latest round loves my tase in music especially Lenka. Play Lenka, play Lenka. My friend comes home to Lenka almost every time I watch her girls for her. Not long ago she said that she loved that song 'Everything at Once', here I never thought she payed any attention to what was playing. 😊 Anyway, she said she was tired of being the woman all the time, why do we have to be one thing? You like being a woman and it fits you, I just get tired of it. I didn't know what to say then anymore than I know what to say now. Really, why? Why do we have to be one thing? The whole chromosome thing?

You have a lot going on there, I am glad that I was never that conflicted. The thing that is stands out from what I am reading is the dysphoria. That is probably the key in all of that. Even if it is not constant it is very real and causes you great discomfort. I don't know about the rest but dysphoria is not know for working itself out eventually, it's pretty consistent in how enduring it is. Wait, was that redundant? Lol, I can't tell. Doesn't matter though I guess. 😊 Is the question, to be female aching to be male, or to be male with some "female" interests? Is that what you are struggling with? Is it fear of the unknown?

Sorry, now my mind is wandering, could be contagious. 😄
So many times it is all about asking the right questions. Start with the dysphoria maybe and work your way out from there?

I don't know and I have to go. Sorry.
Probably I don't know what I am talking about and can't be any help 😃 but I am here if needed. Well... I am not here now, gotta go, gotta go, but later certainly.
Hugs
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Claire Grey

You be you -- and love yourself. Male, female, non-binary -- make your own label. Maybe check out a resource like Kate Bornstein's gender workbooks or her writings. Tools for sorting through or deciding you don't need to sort through. I'm a tall, 46-year old high-femme MTF attorney. Some days I wear jeans and harness boots -- some times I get grease under my nails. Sometimes I obsess about foundation. It's all good.
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Sephirah

The guys here will likely be able to provide way more insight than I can, but what I would like to say is... don't be sorry, okay? You've come to the right place. That's what this site is. It's a place for people to come to try and help make sense of what they're feeling.

You're very welcome here, and never be afraid to put down your thoughts, however you may feel they're organised. This can all be a very confusing, scary, jumbled mess at the start. No matter who you are. And sometimes we all need to just throw it all at the wall and see what sticks, as it were. :) So don't worry, okay? The folks here are a wealth of information and insight. And we're glad to have you with us. *hugs*

What I will say is, coming from the other side of the coin, as it were, I can relate to a lot of what you're saying. The idea of playing a role day in and day out. Actually forcing yourself to be someone else because you think it's how those around you want you to be, is something I've done myself in the past. Feeling like you're on stage and have to put in an Oscar-worthy performance, even though deep inside you don't feel it in the slightest, is something I definitely can relate to. You feel like you're looking out through someone else's eyes, and no matter how good you are, there's a resentment simmering deep down that it just isn't the real you.

Something I will also say, through my own experiences interacting with others, is that there are all kinds of men and women in this world. Many don't adhere to the stereotypes the world churns out. As others have stated, what you like and what you take enjoyment in does not necessarily equal who you are. Now more than ever it's easier to be an individual. To forge your own path and be yourself, rather than trying to fit yourself into a mold because it's one you think the world has created for you.

Something in your post strikes me as interesting, and it's something I'd like to address, if I can.

Quote from: Mitenka on February 21, 2018, 01:16:31 AM
I also am really uncomfortable now with a lot of masculine performance when it comes to emotions, sex, and so on. I'm 25 now -- when I was 19 and first allowed myself to express the conflict I felt when it came to gender, and started using he/him pronouns when I was around 21, I subscribed to a lot of the toxic masculine behavior that society expects, but at this stage I feel like I can see it from an outside perspective and reject it. Does all this mean I'm not actually a guy?

I feel you were kind of accurate when you called it a performance, Mitenka. In my view that's really what it is. Growing up as male, and being treated as such by my peer group, there was a sort of script handed to me on how to be. How to act. The "done thing to do". The "How To Be One Of The Boys Compendium", you know? It was very odd. Sort of a collective consciousness. I tended to always watch from the outside but what I could see was pretty much a groupthink mentality, to be seen as strong enough to fit in. What people were told was "cool" was what everyone aspired to do. And that was usually mandated by the *shudders* I hate this expression... the Alpha Male of the group.

It wasn't about what was right or wrong, so much as what was cool. What garnered respect, I guess. I dunno. Where I grew up, a lot of it was what made you look strong or weak. What made you look tough, or not. And this was very black and white. Don't show emotions. Be a hardcase. Treat women like objects. Do that and people would respect you.

For me it was jarring and uncomfortable. Not who I was. So as a result I never fit in with my peer group. But I know that's the "rulebook" that was thrown at guys where I lived.

Seeing it from the outside, I understand why you feel uncomfortable with it. Having not been exposed to that kind of mentality, it seems toxic and strange. That doesn't make you anything less. It means you never had that kind of indoctrination.

I'm sure that girls had something similar that I never had access to. Something I missed out on. But does that make me anyone less? No, it doesn't. It means that as an individual we have to learn to write our own rulebook on how to be, and how we want to live. There's a lot that people are exposed to, growing up, that goes towards shaping how they think. And while that may be, in part, based on the gender they're perceived as, it doesn't dictate what gender they are, you know? And you shouldn't let that influence the way you feel now. It doesn't make you someone or something else. That comes from inside you.

From what you've said in your post, I feel that it's something you need to explore further. Is there any way you could get in contact with a therapist who specialises in gender issues? If so that would be a good course of action to take. Talk to them about what you've said here and see what comes from it. I really don't like telling people flat out if I think they're trans or not, because I think that's something that can only be decided by the individual. But I do think that it's something you need to look into further. Because it's obviously something that's a big part of your life.

*extra big hug*
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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Degenderate

For what it's worth, I'm FtM and very confident in my identity as a trans man. That said, I absolutely get the same feelings sometimes of indecision, doubt, and confusion. Or feel pressured to feed into that dumb idea of what a "man" is, rather than who I am. You're not alone in that one, I believe it's pretty normal to be doubtful here and there.   :)

Also, there's always gender-fluidity, if that feels like it fits better. Gender-fluid is kind of rad, you can take your gender day-by-day and switch up your style/expression however you like. Gender is a spectrum, after all, and sometimes its also a moving target.
Adrian - 28 - FtM
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MeTony

FtM here too. Your interests does not make your gender. I have had stereotypical male hobbies. Playing Soccer, playing hockey, watching motorcykel competitons, gaming. Sci-Fi, Fantasy, I am also a metal head.

But my hobbies does not make my gender. It's just stuff I like. Until last summer people sa me as a girl with unusual hobbies. It is accepted and nothing wierd.

What happened last summer? I could not be quiet anymore and started coming out to my close ones.

We are all unique human beings. Do what makes you happy. Don't deny yourself the joy of fashion if that makes your heart tic.

I do also think women are fantastic beings. Beautiful and fashionable. But I don't identify with them. It's not me. I identify and compare myself with men. Because I am a man.

I think there are attractive men and women in the world. I've labled myself as pan. There are many different names for attraction, bisexual, pansexual, demiflexible, polyamorous etc. look them up if you need a lable of preference. Nothing wrong with different preferences. We are all humen and unique.


Tony
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Sno

He comes here to ask a question, he does.
Difficult questions.
Always difficult questions.
And yet my precious, he has adventured within.
Within, where his answers lie.
And yet, his adventures have been unguided explorations.
And the question is really, do I need a guide?
Yes, my preciousness, yes.

Rowan
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