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I cheated.. She found my secret. Not well

Started by SomeGirlShay, January 24, 2018, 12:03:46 AM

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SomeGirlShay

This is my first post here.. I don't know how to really begin so I'll just get to the point. Sorry in advance for the format I am typing from my phone.

It all started last summer. My wife and son went out of town for a week long trip. I was feeling extremely dysphoric and decided to finally come out to someone about me being trans. They were trans as well but already open about it. Anyways I thought it was good to come out to them first because they knew the issues that I was facing. Anyways we hung out a few times over the week and one thing lead to another and we did some stuff. We didn't have intercourse mind you but it is still cheating. I was so confused about who I was at this point and I think I started having feelings for this person. After my wife came back this person and I stopped seeing each other but would message back and forth from time to time. I knew what I did/was doing was wrong. Eventually we stopped talking altogether.  After about a month after the last messege this person sends out a mass text, to multiple people, and my wife reads all the texts that we sent back and forth. Needless to say that she wasn't happy and rightfully so, I messed up big time. We took a few days a way from each other before we decided to give it another go. Anyways I neglected to tell her about me being trans. I actually thought that I could just handle being man because I really didn't want to lose her. I was good for about a month when I started feeling dysphoria again. I started researching HRT, cheating and transgender spouses, and how to come out. Last week she looked through my browser history and found my searches. She didn't say anything about it but she asked me if I ever wanted to wear a dress and a wig. I stupidly said no because I was afraid that she would reject me. She seemed ok with this answer. We went on a trip for the weekend and had a great time. I thought we were doing good for the most part but today I was dealt a blow. She told me not to come home because I lied to her. She told me how she looked at my browser history and found out what I was looking up. I told her the truth on why I kept it from her and how I felt she would probably reject me for being this way and that I was hoping to find help be for accepting it fully myself. She, rightfully, doesn't trust me. I told two lies to her out of fear. I wish I wasn't a coward. I know I don't deserve any sympathy for what I have done but I do truly wish I could go back and do the right thing and be truthfully both times. If I could go back I would probably of been open to her sooner and the affair during the summer probably wouldn't taken place. I do have to admit that I did get into marijuana during the summer which effected my mind more than I like to admit so I think it was a combination of being vunerable and high. I have since stopped smoking and things have seemed to calm down as far as my mind goes.

Anyways I am at my dad's house. I want things to work out between my wife and I but it seems this is it. I wished I was more open.. I am super depressed..
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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. There is one thing you might try and that is to get your wife into couples consoling. If you take this approach, you will need to be completely honest and be willing to do what is needed. It's not going to be easy or fast but it's the best way of getting back together.

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Megan.

Hi,  welcome and have a big (hug).

My own hiding of my trans* identity from my Ex lead to a mounting pile of lies, and a resultant loss of trust from my wife when I came clean.

Time to be honest with yourself about who you want to be and be with. These are tough questions, it took me a long time to answer them. If you haven't already, exploring your feelings with an experienced therapist might be a good place to start.

Best of luck with things,  I hope you and your partner each find happiness again.

Megan. X

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SomeGirlShay

Thanks for the replies. I know it is going to be tough no matter the outcome. I just hope I can handle it. 
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rmaddy

I remember what it was like wanting to know more about transgender issues right about the same time that the internet got going.  Suddenly, I no longer needed to go to the library and search the card catalogues hoping to find some scrap of information about why I thought the things I did, and whether anyone else did too.  The walls of The Closet are built out of shame and fear.  You feel like you are all alone, and you dare not talk to anyone.

Then comes the day when your secret slips out.  Is it really surprising that you are unable to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth when you are being interrogated by someone you do not wish to frighten away?  Chances are that you weren't even ready to tell the truth to yourself at that point.  Getting it right on a moment's notice when the stakes are stratospherically high is too much to ask.  Don't be hard on yourself if you made a mess of it.  So did many of us in our turn. 

The broken trust is another problem, and it's going to take a lot of work to undo the damage the you have done to the relationship.  Ultimately, whether the two of you stay together at this point is going to be more her choice than yours.  Wrap your head around that, quickly.  You can't make her stay, and any attempt to try to do so is going to come off very badly indeed.  You've already cheated and lied.  Don't add "tried to control" to that list.

There are still things that you can do, and perhaps you can even affect the outcome.  First of all, stop lying and cheating.  You can't afford another screw up.  Second, give her a pass for now on her toxic behaviors.  It's an invasion of privacy to read someone else's emails/browser history, but you are hardly in a position to press that point.  Third, get professional counseling.  Your initial goal is coming up with a plan to survive whatever goes down.  Yes, you can get some pointers on how to make things right with her and within yourself, but there's a good chance that things are going to get worse before they get better.  Put together the safety net that will allow you to live long enough to have second chances.  Don't lie to the therapist!  Do some individual therapy before you start couples therapy.  Let her know you are getting help, but don't expect her to give you a medal for it at this point.  Be sorry.  Be "I'd do anything to make it up to you" sort of sorry, but understand that there is nothing you you can do to make it up to her.  You've been humbled.  You're going to need to stay there for a long time.

I do wish you the very best.  Transgender relationships can survive, but both parties need to be all in.  Decide if you are.  You owe that to her before you ask her to risk getting hurt even worse. 

Posting here was brave.  Stick around and let your self be supported.
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SueNZ

The replies already posted  are fantastic Shay,
My denials turned to lies and the worst mistake I have ever made. Once it was all out in the open and I have been honest with my wife things are better. I like you am on a journey, if you would like your wife to join you then be open and honest of where you need to go.
Good luck and we are all here with you.



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Jessica

Welcome to Susan's!  Hopefully your wife will understand your belief that you needed to withhold the truth from her.  Fear is a strong motivator.  Being completely honest with her for now on is foremost important if you want to regain her trust.  It may take time, but if she understands your fear, she may realize you you lied out of love.

Jessica

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SomeGirlShay

Thank you all for the advice so far. I don't know what the future holds but I am going to be starting therapy very soon and hopefully I'll be able to work through this. I am really glad I was able to find this website because I really needed something like this to stay positive.
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CarlyMcx

Seriously and honestly—why do you want to stay married to someone who will never accept your feminine identity and who snoops your browser history?
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SomeGirlShay

Quote from: CarlyMcx on January 24, 2018, 03:36:09 PM
Seriously and honestly—why do you want to stay married to someone who will never accept your feminine identity and who snoops your browser history?

Thank you for your reply. To answer that question is pretty simple, She has never done it before the text message from the person I had an affair with and probably wouldn't have if I wasn't upset the day it happened. We kind of had an argument and I threw my phone on the bed before taking a shower. The text came in while I was in the shower and she saw it in the preview. I don't blame her for checking the phone and I don't really blame her for checking the history. I get it I broke her trust an I should of been open with her in the first place. I don't know what to feel at the moment, I am just trying to give her the space she needs with out bothering her too much. I don't think there is anything I can really say or do to change the situation so I am trying to brace myself the best that I can do. If it turns out that she doesn't want to move forward together than I am going to have to been ok with it. Right now emotions are up and down. On one hand I am glad she now knows and on the other I am sad. She has messaged me recently and said that she would like to remain friends if nothing else. I don't know I really don't want to paint a bad picture of her and I hope I didn't make her out to be someone that isn't accepting. I wrote this post late last night when I couldn't sleep so I think I forgot to mention that she doesn't want to show hatred towards me but she doesn't think she could be in a relationship based on the lies. I do love her but I need to respect her decision one way or the other. I am going to use this time to find myself and hopefully just be ok with it.
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DawnOday

Captain Obvious here. Set your browser settings to delete history when closing browser. Set to "all time". Clean out your facebook activities weekly. Clear your cache of pictures and if you have to keep some put them on a memory stick. I know it seems like the horses have already left the barn. I have hurt my wife many times because after my first marriage I thought everybody cheats. My current wife don't cheat. I realize this now and I have done everything in my ability to let her know she is my rock. Apparently it's working as she is becoming more and more aware of the dilemma that has been my life.  Just be effusive in your explanation and let her know what she means to you and you would be lost without her. Many support groups have info for significant others you may want to attend some meetings together. I hope everything works out.
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rmaddy

Quote from: CarlyMcx on January 24, 2018, 03:36:09 PM
Seriously and honestly—why do you want to stay married to someone who will never accept your feminine identity and who snoops your browser history?

I don't think we can ever assume what our partner will or won't do.  For my part, I dealt with snoopiness by a) recognizing and sympathizing with the fear that drove it, and b) talking about it in couples' counseling.  I don't think SGS should be pressing this point now for the obvious reason, but if she (pronoun guess--apologies if wrong) chooses to believe that perhaps her spouse will come to accept her as she is, I salute the hope she places in the power of love and wish her the best.  The odds are seriously against the relationship surviving, but what a triumph if it does!
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Artesia

I did the hiding and lying thing for years as well.  In the end, all the trust and love in my relationship was gone.   Come clean about everything, talk about your reasons, use a counselor, and always remember that even if everything goes south, things will always get better, eventually.
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SomeGirlShay

Update: We have had a chance to talk recently. We have decided to take things slow and if nothing else we will remain friends. She is being pretty supportive but doesn't know if we could be a romantic couple. I feel ok taking it slow because it gives us both a chance to find out what we really want. We had a great talk today.
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rmaddy

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SomeGirlShay

Another Update: We have been back together since my last update. She has been very supportive and even thinks it will work out between us.

I have been trying to find therapy for the last month, contacting multiple therapists with no luck. It has been pretty difficult trying to figure out everything. Work has been pretty stressful because I feel more than ever that people are just looking at me. It could be possible that the reason I feel this way is because I have been wearing undergarments out in public an although people don't see them I feel like they do.

I told a close friend last week about me being trans. They seemed to take it ok and have been trying to help me find a therapist. She gave me a number of a therapist labeled "open-minded", which is a start and hopefully turns into something.

I have been contemplating whether I should stay with my current job or look elsewhere. I have searched jobs in my area with no luck. I live in a pretty rural area of California. I do feel a good majority of my staff will be ok with it but I am not sure as far as the community as a whole.
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gallinarosa

I am so glad to hear your update! As someone who has been in your wife's shoes (my spouse did not cheat but there were definitely lies), I agree with much of the advice already given. I know I was able to (fairly easily) let go of my feelings of being lied to as I came to understand why and also felt assured of a change in that behavior. The fact that my spouse proactively found a therapist and started going right away helped reassure the commitment to addressing it. And within 2-3 weeks, we went together. The therapist was able to soothe my concerns and explain how many transpeople feel forced into hiding their true selves and can develop habits of lying that become their defense mechanism. Having a third party (who is a "professional") tell me that probably helped a lot. So I hope you are able to find someone. I hear some couples who live too far from adequate services get a therapist they can Skype and they do sessions that way.

The other thing my spouse did was to show a commitment to making our relationship better so that I felt it was something worth fighting for as we moved forward. I am truly grateful for that <3

If your wife needs support or could use a community of spouses, feel free to PM me.
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