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Started by Megan., February 24, 2018, 07:48:57 AM

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Quote from: Megan. on August 31, 2018, 12:46:53 PM
I'll have had 4hrs done before my consult, but I know they'll be more to do.

I'm in a lucky position that my company illness leave policy will cover the full recovery (unless there are serious complications), so I'll just be sat (gently) on the sofa hitting Netflix hard [emoji23]

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I will be doing the same, netflix and sleep and netflix and sleep hahaha
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Megan.

Update: Two things today - completed another genital electro session. I never had much hair down there, so we seem to be making good progress despite shorter sessions. And, I've got my surgery consult booked for the end of September. I don't expect to learn much from it, beyond that I need to finish my electro before I can proceed further, but it will be good to finally speak with the surgeon and talk about options.
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Laurie

Hi Megan,

  I'm hoping you get more than a nice chat with the surgeon. Perhaps a date set, that would be nice wouldn't it?

Hugs,
  Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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Megan.

Quote from: Laurie on September 06, 2018, 11:23:42 PM
Hi Megan,

  I'm hoping you get more than a nice chat with the surgeon. Perhaps a date set, that would be nice wouldn't it?

Hugs,
  Laurie
Sadly a date won't get set until I've completed the (ongoing) hair removal. Wait times are currently minimal however, so it should only be 6-8 weeks from getting a green light to the actual slice n' dice.

In the UK currently,  GRS procedures are contracted out to private hospitals. They are required to meet 18week windows of completion from receipt of referral, unless of course hair removal is required. This does mean that once you get referred by the GIC, if you are otherwise healthy and fit for surgery, it can move quite quickly!

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Jayne01

Hi Megan,

I hope the appointment with the Dr goes well at the end of the month and you come away with answers to all your questions.

It sounds like things will start moving very quickly for you once you are finished with electrolysis. How long do you estimate before you are finished with electro?

Hugs,
Jayne
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Megan.

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Quote from: Jayne01 on September 07, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
Hi Megan,

I hope the appointment with the Dr goes well at the end of the month and you come away with answers to all your questions.

It sounds like things will start moving very quickly for you once you are finished with electrolysis. How long do you estimate before you are finished with electro?

Hugs,
Jayne
Tnx Jayne,  considering I first contacted my GP for a referral to the GIC in Jan'15 it's taken a while so far! [emoji23]

My electro tech isn't willing to give a time estimate, but they did comment that it's already quite sparse down there. They've had other clients who've had their GRS with several of the major NHS surgeons. They commented, and I'm interested to know opinions on this, that it's not the case that every hair needs to go, just about getting to a low density that will prevent any 'matting' inside the neo vagina. I'd rather take longer and be more thorough at this stage though, than rush and have problems down the road that will be very difficult to rectify. X

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LizK

Quote from: Megan. on September 06, 2018, 04:50:33 PM
Update: Two things today - completed another genital electro session. I never had much hair down there, so we seem to be making good progress despite shorter sessions. And, I've got my surgery consult booked for the end of September. I don't expect to learn much from it, beyond that I need to finish my electro before I can proceed further, but it will be good to finally speak with the surgeon and talk about options.

Hi Megan

I think I have finally found someone to do my genital electrolysis...GULP....how bad is it? I am lucky I don't have a great deal to contend with...but still...are you having a particular area done or "everything"

Thanks

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Megan.

Liz,

I'm using Emla (with clingwrap) an hour before the session along with paracetamol and ibuprofen. Pain varies alot more than face. For me, some parts (midline scrotum) are almost totally painless, others are extremely painful, and I just grip the bed for the few seconds of pain. It is NOT as bad as I thought it would be, I have no worries about going to my regular sessions.

I was advised by my surgeons nurse specialist to get the area indicated at this linked cleared:

http://genderxchange.com/styled-6/index.html

But at the suggestion of my electro tech I'm also doing the base of the shaft, as this form the entrance of the neo vagina (if I understand correctly) and I'd want that to be smooth also.

I'm seeing the surgeon for the initial consult on 28-Sep, so it'll be interesting get their views.

I've had 1.5 hours so far, and have another 30 min session tomorrow morning. These are quite short compared to some on the site here, but it seems to be going well.

Good luck. X

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LizK

Thanks for that Meagan...The diagram is pretty much what I was given with a special note to saying the entire shaft including the bottom 2 cm and a Diagonal piece of the scrotum

https://imgur.com/RnGLmn6 this is the diagram I was given which correlates pretty well with what you have.


I was reading through the materiel again before posting it here and it says the surgeon wants no further laser treatment at least 4 weeks out from Surgery so I would guess this probably applies Electrolysis (will confirm on thurday when I speak to him) so that leaves me about 4 weeks to finish the what laser didn't get...If my surgeon thinks its worthwhile then I will do it....its not like they are starting from scratch...I did a self examination tonight and some hair trimming whilst I was there and you can certainly see where the laser has been....I might have 1 or 2 hairs about 1/3 the way up and quite a bit more at the base but then a large section of the scrotal tissue is bare due to laser....I will have to see .

Thanks so much for sharing the info with me it was very helpful
 

Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Megan.

Quote from: LizK on September 17, 2018, 05:04:43 AM
Thanks for that Meagan...The diagram is pretty much what I was given with a special note to saying the entire shaft including the bottom 2 cm and a Diagonal piece of the scrotum

https://imgur.com/RnGLmn6 this is the diagram I was given which correlates pretty well with what you have.


I was reading through the materiel again before posting it here and it says the surgeon wants no further laser treatment at least 4 weeks out from Surgery so I would guess this probably applies Electrolysis (will confirm on thurday when I speak to him) so that leaves me about 4 weeks to finish the what laser didn't get...If my surgeon thinks its worthwhile then I will do it....its not like they are starting from scratch...I did a self examination tonight and some hair trimming whilst I was there and you can certainly see where the laser has been....I might have 1 or 2 hairs about 1/3 the way up and quite a bit more at the base but then a large section of the scrotal tissue is bare due to laser....I will have to see .

Thanks so much for sharing the info with me it was very helpful

Ur welcome, and tnx for the diagram you've shared too.

I suspect the 4 week gap between removal and surgery is regardless of method, but please share back what you find out.

Hair post surgery and dilation are (understandably) my two biggest concerns about the full depth route. I'm still not fully set on my surgery choice (full or cosmetic), but until then I'll keep going with the removal so I have the choice. X

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LizK

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Quote from: Megan. on September 17, 2018, 01:11:41 PM
Ur welcome, and tnx for the diagram you've shared too.

I suspect the 4 week gap between removal and surgery is regardless of method, but please share back what you find out.

Hair post surgery and dilation are (understandably) my two biggest concerns about the full depth route. I'm still not fully set on my surgery choice (full or cosmetic), but until then I'll keep going with the removal so I have the choice. X

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I am really concerned as well but there is not a whole lot I can do about it. I have been hunting for someone to even do it for over 18 months, I have an appointment today for genital electrolysis assessment and it was quite by chance I even found these people although I have a recollection I have called this company before and they have declined..I see them this morning and we they will no boubet give me an assessement.

Your thoughts on which surgery are similar to mine...I have my last pre surgical consult on Thursday and I suspect he will want to know which procedure he is performing... ;)

Will let you know what he says...

Take care

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Mariah

It's that bad, however it is worth it to get the genital electro done. I haven't had any hair inside my vagina as a result of having it done. I'm super pleased in that regard. The gap is to ensure that the skin has a chance to heal from the last session before surgery. Hugs
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Megan.

Had a really bad electro session this morning, was meant to last 30mins, but I had to end it five minutes early as I was starting to experience early stages of shock. I don't think I did a good job with the Emla, and was also perhaps a bit dehydrated. It's also a very mental thing, if I can get my head in the right place, it's much easier.

Times like this make me really doubt if I should continue the hair removal as I'm still very unsure about the cosmetic/full-depth surgery choice.

Next time I'll apply more Emla and further in advance (2hrs not 1), and do a second application too. Hopefully that'll make things bareable. The area around the base of the shaft is certainly the most sensitive/painful, the scrotum actually being very comfortable in comparison. X

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LizK

Hi Meagan

Thanks for the update and it sucks when these proceedures don't go as we plan.

I had a couple from the base zapped yesterday as a"tryout" for further treatments...I certainly didn't do the time you did but I can empathise with you...I am booked to try and do a complete clearance tomorrow..

I understand your dilema over which surgery...it doesn't help when tring to find the motivation to do this kind of treatment.


I was thinking about our discussion and trying to think how I am going to physically put this emla cream on. I found that with my face if I gave it 1 1/2 hrs and applied it thick enough, I would get about 15 minutes effective numbing so I would do 4 small sections.  I am trying to work out a way to do this in sections...as best I can work out I may be able to do it in two sections...sctrotal and penile base....then I have to somehow get in a car and drive 30 minutes.....I may have to do some experimenting today....


How did you "secure" your Emla? I was thinking cling wraping each area seperately...? Don't really know just guessing at this stage..


Take care

Liz


Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Kendra

Megan, sorry to hear you had a rough electrology session - I had a few that were really difficult to handle and brought a beach towel to my last few sessions.  The pain level caused me to sweat so much I disintegrated the disposable paper on the bed/table.  Keep thinking about the long term benefits.  Try to let your mind wander and think about other things when you're there.  You are almost through it, your next one will be better.
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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RachelT1963

Sorry to hear about your last session Megan. Your a strong lady and you can get through it. As you are aware a lot of the time it is a state of mind. Stay strong x

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Michelle_P

Megan, I am really sorry you had that experience.  I have found that paying any attention to the process leads to my focusing on and anticipating each insertion and zap, which makes things much worse.

Now what I do is a form of mindful meditation.  I pay attention to my breathing.  Breath in.  Hold 5 seconds, counting in my head.  Breathe out through pursed lips.  Hold a second.  Repeat.  I focus on the pressure of the chair supporting me, holding me.

I also listen to music.  Calm, rythmic music works best.  My worst session was when my electrolyst had loud, jarring music playing, which made it hard to get into that meditative state. We agreed not to use that music any more!  Focusing on the music can also help, much like the breathing meditation.

Liz, for electrolysis at the South Pole I put on a coat of EMLA and the plastic wrap, in several pieces for each area to be worked, about an hour before treatment.  That was a 40 minute drive with everything wrapped up.
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AnonyMs

Quote from: Megan. on September 18, 2018, 06:01:02 PM
Had a really bad electro session this morning, was meant to last 30mins, but I had to end it five minutes early as I was starting to experience early stages of shock.

What are the symptoms of shock?
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Megan.



Quote from: LizK on September 18, 2018, 07:00:43 PM
Hi Meagan

Thanks for the update and it sucks when these proceedures don't go as we plan.

I had a couple from the base zapped yesterday as a"tryout" for further treatments...I certainly didn't do the time you did but I can empathise with you...I am booked to try and do a complete clearance tomorrow..

I understand your dilema over which surgery...it doesn't help when tring to find the motivation to do this kind of treatment.


I was thinking about our discussion and trying to think how I am going to physically put this emla cream on. I found that with my face if I gave it 1 1/2 hrs and applied it thick enough, I would get about 15 minutes effective numbing so I would do 4 small sections.  I am trying to work out a way to do this in sections...as best I can work out I may be able to do it in two sections...sctrotal and penile base....then I have to somehow get in a car and drive 30 minutes.....I may have to do some experimenting today....


How did you "secure" your Emla? I was thinking cling wraping each area seperately...? Don't really know just guessing at this stage..


Take care

Liz

Liz,  I wrap myself in clingfilm to keep the Emla in place and put knickers over the top while I drive the 30mins to the electrolysist, and peel it off just before the session. I can't say it's a pleasant experience!

Next time I will apply one lot 2 hours before, then another application 1 hour before, giving it time to penetrate through the skin.

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