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Moving on from immense feelings of relational/transition guilt and inadequacy...

Started by Carrie Liz, December 20, 2013, 04:36:53 PM

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Carrie Liz

(Copied from my blog onto its own topic here, because I really feel like I needed to talk about this a bit more publicly.)

(TRIGGER WARNING: relationship regret / inadequacy to cis-women.)


Well... today's my last day of packing before I move out of the house and head two states away to start my new job. And I'm going to be honest, I'm feeling pretty bad.

Last night, I had yet another dream involving my dad accusing me of being a failure. I've had a dream like this before, where Dad was irrationally accusing me of being a failure. In the first dream like this, basically it was after I'd been on HRT for an entire extra year, and yet I was still stuck in the exact same place as before, miserable, self-loathing, still stuck in "guy mode," still hating myself, still too afraid to make the social switch, while in the dream my friend that I started at the same time with was already full-time, passing, and loving her new life. And when the friend's mother asked my dad what was wrong with me, he pointed an accusing finger at me and said that it was all my fault, that I'd done nothing but sit in my room feeling sorry for myself, and then he accused me of doing drugs, which I had to defend myself against even though I'd never done them in my entire life.

Well, something like that dream happened again last night. But this time it was drinking. He accused me of being a drunk. And again, I've never been drunk in my entire life, so I felt completely betrayed. He was accusing me of being a terrible person because I never did house chores. He pretty much spent several minutes dissecting every single one of my flaws, every single one of my failures as a human being... failing in school, losing my job, how my room's such a disaster, how I never do housework, everything. He then accused me of being selfish, horrible, and again, a drunk. I was nearly crying by this point. Jenny was there too this time. And when I turned to her and asked her to vouch for me, all that she could say was "well, to his credit, he did take Louise (our cat) to the vet several times." And that was all she could say. And I just felt so awful, so betrayed. Because I felt like I put all of this effort into being a decent human being, into being nice to everyone, and yet my own father couldn't see it.


Murg... what an awful dream. And unfortunately, it touched a very tender nerve because of what's happening in my life today. Today is the last day that I'll be living with Jenny, my ex-girlfriend, before moving out. So I'm already feeling pretty bad about this. Because when you come down to it, the failure of our relationship, and the failure of this joint housing, is pretty much all my fault.

This is the girl that I thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with. That I clicked so amazingly well with from the very first instant that we met. That I thought for sure was the one, that we were going to settle down, that I imagined growing old with, and having kids with, and there was nobody else in the entire world that I'd rather be with. The girl that I thought I could never hate, never fight with, as long as we lived, because we just had so much fun every single time we were together. And yet now here I am, leaving her house in shame, as a miserable failure.

Ultimately, it's my own personal shortcomings that split us up. She has her whole life together. I don't know where she gets such energy, such constant ability to not only work a job that she hates without complaining, but still have energy left over to clean, play with our cat, have a social life, and date all at the same time. Even when she's feeling miserable, she still does all of this, and it's just second nature to her, without blinking an eye. In every way that she's a success, I'm a failure. Even when I'm happy, I'm still a pathetic loser that can't get a damned thing done, and still finds ways to be incapacitated by every single little bad thing going on in my life.

This really is all my fault. Our relationship failing is ultimately all because of me. I'm the one who waited four months to send her an e-mail after we were done working at Cedar Point because I was such a social coward. I'm the one who could barely talk to her even though I loved her. I'm the one who almost let our relationship end because I went through an uber-conservative Christian phase of trans denial where suddenly God became more important than her. Then it was because I couldn't function sexually. Because she had what every single normal human being is supposed to have, a healthy sex-drive, and yet I was too ashamed of my own anatomy to enjoy what was right in front of me. Then it was because I couldn't do even the most basic of romantic gestures. I couldn't give her flowers like a normal person in love would. I couldn't get up the enthusiasm to go on trips and have fun date nights and treat her like she deserves. I was too much of a selfish failure in that regard. That's what ultimately split us up. And even then, I feel like I've held her back for seven years. She gave the best years of her young romantic life to me, and yet I wasted them because I was still in denial about my trans desires, and refused to face them no matter how much I knew they were destroying my life. And then to cap off my feelings of failure, it's my fault that now even our basic friendship is ending. It's because of my lack of ability to clean. Because I spend so much time sitting around and feeling sorry for myself that I leave dishes in the sink for several days at a time, and never clean the bathroom, and she constantly has to bother me, day after day after day, to get me to do anything. And now because of this, we can barely talk to each-other anymore without her bitterness about how little I contribute making us argue.

Hell, it's even my fault that I'm moving out right now. Because I couldn't keep my own personal problems out of my work life. Because I let myself get so worked up with dysphoria that I made a mistake that resulted in my termination. Because I just had to sit there feeling miserable instead of being brave and doing something about it. Because I'm still hiding. Because I'm still stuck in this horrible self-loathing state that takes up all of my mental energy.

It's all because of me. Because I'm such an inadequate human being, such a screw-up, such a freaking loser, so selfish, so uncaring. And so what looked like a perfect relationship is now ending in a state where we can barely stand to be around each-other because we're constantly fighting about cleaning, and the guilt-tripping and arguing about housework never ends. And again, it's my fault. She's always happy, always helpful, even when she's feeling bad. I'm always miserable, lazy, snappy, selfish, and I couldn't support the basic needs of a single other person. Hell, I can't even support my own needs.

So yeah... I'm feeling pretty bad today. And the worst part is, I still haven't learned. I still haven't dealt with this most basic of problems. I'm still hiding, still letting myself feel like crap every single day because I'm too scared to do anything about it, and because I'm letting my own feelings of inadequacy keep me from doing something that would help my functioning on the most basic of levels. And yet I still don't. And so I'm still spending almost every single hour of every single day feeling miserable, not having the ability to function on the most basic of levels.

And so I'm leaving this house in shame... it's all my fault in the first place, and the worst part is, I still haven't learned. I'm still putting up with being a self that I hate, still letting myself sit on the sidelines of life, still letting myself be miserable, because I'm too much of a coward to face up to it. And because I refused to face up to it for all of these years, I threw away the prime romantic years of a girl who deserved so much better than me.

And every single time I look at her, I feel inadequate... like I'm an idiot for ever thinking that I could possibly have the gall to be expected to be accepted as a member of the same gender as her, or any other girl for that matter.

And the thing that really kills me, is that everyone who I came out to says "what took you so long? I knew that you were suffering. I could see it. And now you're looking so much happier. If this was bothering you so much, why did it take you so long to do something about it?" And I really don't know. I just constantly seem to be petrified. I sat by idly as it destroyed my school life, my social life, my working life, and this relationship. And the worst part is, I still haven't learned. I'm still letting fear hold me back.


Anyone have advice to give? How can I move on from these horrible feelings of guilt, these feelings that I've failed as a son/daughter, failed as a significant other, and now that I feel like I'm failing as a trans woman? I just feel like I'm constantly being petrified by feelings of inadequacy... and I'm letting that social fear, and that lack of self-acceptance, keep me from being myself, and from being happy, on the most basic of levels. And it's been tearing my life apart for years now, but I still can't seem to learn from it.
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Misato

Quote from: Carrie Liz on December 20, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
I just feel like I'm constantly being petrified by feelings of inadequacy

Looks like that feeling is pretty deep given how brutal you were to yourself in your writing.

I want to reply and I'm having a hard time figuring out what to ask cause there's so much there. I'm honing in on the mentions of fear though:

Quote from: Carrie Liz on December 20, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
I'm still letting fear hold me back.
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and I'm letting that social fear, and that lack of self-acceptance, keep me from being myself, and from being happy,

Your dad and you appear to not have a good relationship. Your relationship with your ex is over. You've lost your job though are starting a new one. Troubles with school in the past. Given the mental anguish you must be under from stress and from the smackdown you've given yourself here, you may not even have your health. But, that brings me to a good question: Girl, at this point, what do you have left to lose?

And, if I may suggest, you may be able to address the inadequacy by being kinder to yourself. Embrace language about yourself, that's the opposite of the violent words you've chosen to use on yourself here. Start there and maybe a door will open for you to address your problems, instead of using your problems as a club to beat yourself back down.

You've given a long list of stressors so, I think you were entitled to a good wallow. You've been knocked down. Time to get up again. Better than stayin' and layin' on the ground. :)
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Shantel

CarrieLiz,
        I think Misato hit on something, the overwhelming guilt is ruining your life! I'm no shrink and maybe you should be discussing this in great detail with one, but since you have a Christian background you may understand that such extreme crushing guilt doesn't emanate from God, but from the one that wants to destroy your life. As a friend and fellow traveler on these same paths I can only advise you to get up off your ass and get busy doing the things that you know you need to be doing. This will help you change that negative tape that keeps replaying in your head. I'm not being mean or trying to be a turd to you, you know we all care for you a lot. Just pick yourself up and do what I suggest, it works for me whenever I get in a depressed mood. Hugs & Love, Auntie Shan.
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Carrie Liz

I think you may be right.

That's really all I can say. I never really noticed before just how brutal my self-criticism is. But when you come down to it, I really do pretty much blame myself for everything. I have this feeling of always being a failure, so much so that every single task I'm given immediately turns into a test of character, where I feel like I'm being judged the instant I receive it, and thus because I constantly feel bad, I never feel like doing it.

I really don't know where this came from. It's been going on since middle school at least. I really am just constantly miserable in absolutely everything, because I always feel like what I'm doing isn't good enough. I feel like there's these constant eyes watching me, judging me for every single one of my imperfections.
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Misato

That seems like a step forward. You know where it started.

Now, mindful the adage "old habits die hard" let's mark tonight as the night it begins to end.

Can we hear something good about you? Can be anything at all. Only thing is ya gotta mean it.:)
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Carrie Liz

Well, I think part of my problem isn't that I have nothing good to say about myself, it's actually that I think too much of myself. So when I give myself compliments, it just feels like more that I'm not living up to. I've spent my entire life being complimented. I've been in the top 1% of pretty much everything I've ever done. And I think that's one of my problems, is that I always feel like I'm letting people down.
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Jennygirl

Quote from: Misato on December 21, 2013, 12:29:47 AM
That seems like a step forward. You know where it started.

Now, mindful the adage "old habits die hard" let's mark tonight as the night it begins to end.

Can we hear something good about you? Can be anything at all. Only thing is ya gotta mean it.:)

+1 to this mega awesome post.

I as well would love to hear you say something good about yourself Carrie!
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Heather

Quote from: Carrie Liz on December 21, 2013, 12:41:22 AM
Well, I think part of my problem isn't that I have nothing good to say about myself, it's actually that I think too much of myself. So when I give myself compliments, it just feels like more that I'm not living up to. I've spent my entire life being complimented. I've been in the top 1% of pretty much everything I've ever done. And I think that's one of my problems, is that I always feel like I'm letting people down.
Carrie their is nothing wrong with being a overachiever that's can be a very positive thing. But it can be a negative thing when you put so much pressure on yourself to achieve that it makes you completely miserable. Their is nothing wrong with trying something and falling short of your expectations. The word failure should not be in your vocabulary the only way to fail at something is to give up or even worse never try at all.
Carrie your not a failure I know you feel bad that your relationship didn't workout the way you hoped it would but that doesn't mean you failed all it meant was she wasn't the person for you. They will be others who will come along maybe you won't have the same feelings as you did for her, but maybe just maybe you'll find a person you love even more than her who is right for you in every possible way. Just hang in there girl I know you've been going through a lot lately but you will get through this your not a failure at all.
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LordKAT

Sometimes, the hardest person to forgive is yourself. No one is perfect, no one can live without mistakes. We all have done some mighty stupid stuff. So forgive yourself, let yourself be OK with being you. good and bad Make a list of goals, start really general like transition. Under that list some major steps, under each of those some minor steps. Maybe one goal is to improve on your housekeeping abilities. Again start general, then break it down. Then pick a minor little step and do  it. then be glad you did and pick another. Don't be in any rush to complete them, just keep doing one, then the next.

The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. Step one, you are OK so forgive yourself and move on.
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Misato

Quote from: Carrie Liz on December 21, 2013, 12:41:22 AM
So when I give myself compliments, it just feels like more that I'm not living up to. I've spent my entire life being complimented. I've been in the top 1% of pretty much everything I've ever done. And I think that's one of my problems, is that I always feel like I'm letting people down.

I was puzzled by this at first because I appeared to be reading a contradiction: Others are evaluating you and put you in a position to be in the top one percent by their evaluation, yet, you feel like you're letting them down.

But others aren't so much the problem, are they? Others may say things that exacerbate the situation and your perception of yourself, but I don't know if they are at the heart of the matter.

Heather might be on to something with being an overachiever. When you do complement yourself, it sounds like it might go something like, "I did good, but, if I made these tweaks here, here and here things would be so much better! Gagh! Why didn't I see that before!!!"

I still think it'd be good to say something kind about yourself without a qualifier.
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Lauren5

Carrie, you are a very selfless person. I like to think of myself as one as well. Our main concern is being self-defeatist; when something goes wrong with someone else, we're the first on our own blame list. We feel inadequate, guilty. I know I probably sound like a hypocrite for saying this. I think that you should realize how special you really are.You care for others, and are willing to sacrifice your own pursuits for theirs. You just need to have some "me time." I think it will do you good.
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Carrie Liz

Quote from: Misato on December 21, 2013, 01:43:47 AM
I was puzzled by this at first because I appeared to be reading a contradiction: Others are evaluating you and put you in a position to be in the top one percent by their evaluation, yet, you feel like you're letting them down.

But others aren't so much the problem, are they? Others may say things that exacerbate the situation and your perception of yourself, but I don't know if they are at the heart of the matter.

Heather might be on to something with being an overachiever. When you do complement yourself, it sounds like it might go something like, "I did good, but, if I made these tweaks here, here and here things would be so much better! Gagh! Why didn't I see that before!!!"

I still think it'd be good to say something kind about yourself without a qualifier.

Okay, what I meant was like in terms of ability I'm always evaluated high. Like, on IQ tests and math ability and reading ability and pretty much everything that I've ever done. But despite these high evaluations, I've never translated them into actual success. I failed classes all throughout high school. I did fail out of my first college, and almost failed out of my second one. I got a C in Algebra II class despite being rated #11 in the entire state. I got a D in physics despite winning two county-wide engineering competitions. That's really what I'm talking about. It's just that despite tremendous potential, despite everyone always telling me how smart I am, saying they're jealous of me, telling me how much of a good person I am, I never live up to those standards. I always find some way to fail. And so whenever I'm complimented on my abilities, I always feel like I'm letting people down because I'm not living up to that potential.

So I guess it's kind of become like that. Where I've started taking compliments to be read as expectations... they become this high standard that I have to live up to, so whenever I feel like I'm not living up to that standard, I feel like a failure.

It's not even that I'm an overachiever who's never satisfied with what I do. It's just that for my entire life, I've been someone with tremendous potential, someone who my family is constantly saying "I wish I had your brains" and things of that nature, and yet I've never been able to translate that ability into actual academic/work success. So I've always dealt with people being disappointed in me. It's like, for someone who's not as smart, getting straight-A's would be this tremendous accomplishment, because it feels like they're overcoming their lack of ability, so their family is so proud of them. It's a sign that they studied and worked hard. Where with me, I got "A"s on tests with no effort whatsoever, so getting straight-As became an expectation. And anything less than that was a sign that I wasn't living up to my potential. So I spent my entire school career feeling like I was letting everyone down. And now that feeling of being a failure has just kind of permeated every single facet of my life.

So that's why compliments really don't make me feel better anymore. To me, they just feel like more expectations that I'm not living up to... more pressure to be perfect.


And, well, okay, something nice:
Well, I am really proud of myself for coming out publicly last month. I never thought I'd be able to do that, and yet I did. (Now the problem is, because I'm out publicly, now a lot of people are expecting me to make that social switch, so I think a lot of the pressure that I'm feeling right now transition-wise is because of that. Like I said, that's how my mind works. I'm just always wrapped up in what people are expecting me to do, and I constantly feel like I'm letting those people down.)
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Jennygirl

I think you have already more or less said it, but it sounds like your mental capacity is working against you by fearing failure which is disallowing you to move forward with confidence.

I think it's time you listened to your gut for a change, and told the self evaluating cautious side of your brain to shut the heck up for a split second.

I was the same way about test scores vs grades and "potential", but I really didn't give a crap about school because I was able to realize the simple fact that my poor grades were due to the fact that I had little to no interest in whatever the topic was.

I've only ever been able to "succeed" at anything when I truly see a need for myself. Perhaps you have been trying too hard to please others your whole life and it had become trying too hard to please yourself.

Maybe try relaxing and see what you really want, and then act on it only if you feel necessary... rather than trying to achieve things that you really might find forced / do not care about?
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Misato

Quote from: Carrie Liz on December 21, 2013, 05:47:46 AM
And, well, okay, something nice:
Well, I am really proud of myself for coming out publicly last month. I never thought I'd be able to do that, and yet I did. (Now the problem is, because I'm out publicly, now a lot of people are expecting me to make that social switch, so I think a lot of the pressure that I'm feeling right now transition-wise is because of that. Like I said, that's how my mind works. I'm just always wrapped up in what people are expecting me to do, and I constantly feel like I'm letting those people down.)

Let me get my editor cap... There! We need to make the above... this:

Quote from: Carrie Liz on December 21, 2013, 05:47:46 AM
And, well, okay, something nice:
Well, I am really proud of myself for coming out publicly last month. I never thought I'd be able to do that, and yet I did.

Less is more, as they say. :) I'm not going to deny either Carrie that when I saw the unedited version I did have to laugh because I rather expected ya to do something like the parenthetical in your response.

As for the edited version, I'm happy for you. You beat your own expectations for yourself. You were more than adequate.
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mac1

Carrie you are looking great. I am envious.

Long hair is not really essential for a female appearance. My wife's hair is even shorter (only male crew cuts are shorter) than my hair and she is never mistaken as male.

Continue with your transition and feel good about yourself as a woman.

I have not keep current with your situation the past couple months. How is the job situation with you?
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Randi

One of the major hallmarks of a woman is the ability to clean.

They spend their lives cleaning up messes that other people make.

You need to figure out how to do this drudgery with a smile.

Quote from: Carrie Liz on December 20, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
It's because of my lack of ability to clean. Because I spend so much time sitting around and feeling sorry for myself that I leave dishes in the sink for several days at a time, and never clean the bathroom, and she constantly has to bother me, day after day after day, to get me to do anything.
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christinej78



Hi Carrie Liz,  I'm new to Suzan's Place, to acknowledging that I am transgender (MTF, what a relief it has been) and is my first post on this site. I noticed that the last post on this thread, that you started, was 23 December 2013.

I hope all your issues have been resolved and that you are living life to its fullest. You don't owe it to anyone to be miserable; you owe it to yourself to be happy. You are a very beautiful young lady. Best wishes for a very happy future; you deserve it. Christine J.


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Jessica

Quote from: christinej78 on March 16, 2018, 07:08:50 PM


Hi Carrie Liz,  I'm new to Suzan's Place, to acknowledging that I am transgender (MTF, what a relief it has been) and is my first post on this site. I noticed that the last post on this thread, that you started, was 23 December 2013.

I hope all your issues have been resolved and that you are living life to its fullest. You don't owe it to anyone to be miserable; you owe it to yourself to be happy. You are a very beautiful young lady. Best wishes for a very happy future; you deserve it. Christine J.

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Kylo

Eh, I know the sensation of feeling like a failure. Parents expected a lot from me, I was a bright kid, been to uni four times, but I never got the kind of success they wanted or that I wanted. I feel fairly responsible for dragging my SO down to the South West to start a business venture that won't work in this economy. Then killed a ten year relationship by being myself.

But I learned a few things along the way. Namely that I'm not perfect - nobody is. That just because I'm smart - or so they say - doesn't mean I'm lucky. A lot of success in life comes from who you know, being in the right place at the right time, making the lucky choices. And that other people expect a lot, but unless you have a real obligation to someone, like a parent does to a child... let them expect. At some point you realize no matter if you spend your life doing stuff to please other people and not yourself all you'd get would be a pat on the back and more expectation.
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