Swedish parliment makes historic decision to pay forcibly sterilised trans peopl

[stephaniec]

Swedish pariiment makes historic decision to pay forcibly sterilised trans people

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/03/23/swedish-parliament-makes-historic-decision-to-pay-forcibly-sterilised-trans-people-25000/

Pink News/By Jess Glass    03/23/2018

[Mumei]

I looked up the Finnish Statue on the matter, I assume the Swedes would have had a very similar statute in place before they got rid of theirs.

What I find really strange is that, the statute actually demands the "sterilization" of the person. They use the word "sterilize!!!"

If the statute used the words like "sex change, so the persons body is inline with their gender" I could at least understand their logic, not that I necessarily agree with the logic. But to use the word "sterilize," is very harsh.

This is an English language translation of the legislation.
http://trasek.fi/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/TransAct2003.pdf

But there is a way around the Finish legislation, which is pointed out in section 7 of the statute.
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[Mendi]

There is no real work around in Finland. Well, getting recognition in other country, but that most often means living in other country for years. I´ve been contemplating of moving away, not just because of getting my gender recognized, but because this country is far from the fighter for human righs, that we advertise to be.

The way our gender clinic treats people...is just horrible. It´s basically pshychological torture, there is no other words to describe it.

And what makes it even more confusing...is that the place in Helsinki is basically run by few lesbian nurses, who have been there forever, from the start I think.

As I was sent to death from that place, I asked from the nurse, if she is one of those rare militant feminist lesbians, who hate all transwomen with passion.

Shocked look and silence and some words was all I got...I guess I hit quite close with my words...

[Mumei]

this country is far from the fighter for human righs, that we advertise to be.

The way our gender clinic treats people...is just horrible. It´s basically pshychological torture, there is no other words to describe it.

Shocked look and silence and some words was all I got...I guess I hit quite close with my words...

Hi Mendi,

Why is the grass always greener on the other side?

I always though Finland was paradise and always wanted to live there because I heard you have free university education for Finish speakers over there, is free university at least true?

Those nurses sound a little bit TERFY (I hope I'm allowed to use that word here) though.

[Mendi]

Things are great, just as long as you don´t belong to any minority.

If you suddenly find yourself belonging to a minority group...well then you will find out, that this country is far from the place, that is advertised to be.

And I´m not talking about sexual or gender minority, just by getting yourself injured and handicapped, will mean that you will experience what it means to be minority in this country. For example, if you live in some service house after you are injured, your home can be moved to some other location, taken care of some completely different company and staff who don´t even know you like the staff in previous place knew you.

TERF is the word/term for those nurses...doctors don´t stay in those clinic for long, six months to a year, but those few nurses....10 to 16 years!

[Mumei]

Sounds like it'd be hard for you to get a job then.
Maybe you'd have to work for yourself in order to make money.

[Mendi]

Sounds like it'd be hard for you to get a job then.
Maybe you'd have to work for yourself in order to make money.

We have laws in place to guard against that kind of discrimination and I´ve never had difficulties, as I´m nurse, where workforce is always needed.

But a lot of transpeople are unemployed here, even when discrimination is illegal.

[Mumei]

Nurse!!

You can get a job anywhere in the world.

[Mendi]

Nurse!!

You can get a job anywhere in the world.

Not anymore (and I´m a practical nurse), because a lot of things have changed. You can get a recognition for the occupation, but for example in Australia it costs tens of thousands of dollars to get the recognition.

[Mumei]

Damn.
It sounds like you have already looked into it.
Can you get a working holiday visa? I think the age limit is about 32 or 33.

It's funny how the freedom you now feel in one way has trapped you in other ways.