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Gender Revolution

Started by KarlMars, March 24, 2018, 10:58:58 AM

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KarlMars

Winter 2017 A National Geographic featured the "Gender Revolution". Do you think this revolution will keep going and continue to gain media coverage?

BT04

I'm mighty skeptical that most good things we have going for us in the West (or at least in the US) won't be forgotten, undone, or back-burner'd over the next couple of decades as we slide further into populism, as climate change wreaks deadlier havoc, and as more people are forced to focus all their efforts on the day to day business of not starving to death or dying in mass shootings.

So I don't think so. But on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if the virulent hate we have right now will also be a luxury that most folks won't be able to afford - giving a damn about stupid stuff like gender-segregated bathrooms will surely be seen as the ridiculous waste of time that it is when there are much more immediately pressing matters to deal with.
- Seth

Ex-nonbinary trans man, married to a straight guy, still in love. Pre-T, pre-op.
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Cassi

Viva La Trans-Lution!!!!!
HRT since 1/04/2018
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Kylo

Everything you have can be taken from you. Whether it's your health, your sanity, your wealth, your country, your loved ones... There's nothing that cannot be taken away by circumstance. Including cultural values and trends... and even human progress.

I don't think this gender revolution as they call it will get much further in most places (the political pendulum seems on the verge of swinging back at this point, also). It isn't a mainstream phenomenon, even if there's some degree of recognition of it there. It's confined mainly to LGBT circles and experiences even if it does find itself being discussed by politicians and stuck on magazine covers. But trans individuals have been around for a lot longer than this gender revolution thing and will continue to be around as long as there are people.

There are major problems facing the human race (that will almost certainly erupt in the next 25-40 years) that will put things like gender equality and LGBT rights to the bottom of the list. The collapse of fiat currency, mass migration and associated tensions, political/religious conflict and upheaval, increasing environmental degradation etc. will all cause issues of the more pressing kind that will reach down to the level of what the average person on the street sees as important. In a major human crisis scenario gender roles will more than likely revert back to the traditional "patriarchal" and politics to the dictatorial. 

We've effectively been able to bring trans issues and LGBT rights to the table because we've been able to "afford" to, in the last few years... but behind the scenes the system is bankrupt, the problems are racking up and the freedoms we currently enjoy have numbered days, I expect.

I'd like to be pleasantly surprised, but at the end of the day I've read too many books on human nature and observed it at work to put any money on it.
 
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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Gertrude

The world has been going to hell in a hand basket for centuries even millennia and yet we still make progress. More of the same will continue.


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Allison S

Okay I have to ask but why is there a (presumably) cis "male" and not "female"? Or am I missing something?

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Devlyn

Quote from: Gertrude on March 24, 2018, 05:26:39 PM
The world has been going to hell in a hand basket for centuries even millennia and yet we still make progress. More of the same will continue.


Agreed.
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Cassi

Well stated, Aunt Gertie!!!!!
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Cassi

Quote from: Allison S on March 24, 2018, 08:12:43 PM
Okay I have to ask but why is there a (presumably) cis "male" and not "female"? Or am I missing something?

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There are "cis" females too.  Those CIS's come in all shapes and sizes!!!!! :)
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JessicaHF

I don't know. I see a lot of blurring of gender binaries in the youth of today. Like the song says the children are our future. I've spent a great deal of time with the the youth of today and their attitudes toward gender are not necessarily revolutionary, but more a long the lines of "we have more important things to worry about" The youth of today are much more free to express themselves for who they really are and don't appear to be very concerned at all with how other people are expressing themselves. Maybe not a gender revolution, but maybe a movement toward gender blindness, or gender "who cares!"

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KarlMars

Quote from: JessicaHF on March 25, 2018, 09:09:30 PM
I don't know. I see a lot of blurring of gender binaries in the youth of today. Like the song says the children are our future. I've spent a great deal of time with the the youth of today and their attitudes toward gender are not necessarily revolutionary, but more a long the lines of "we have more important things to worry about" The youth of today are much more free to express themselves for who they really are and don't appear to be very concerned at all with how other people are expressing themselves. Maybe not a gender revolution, but maybe a movement toward gender blindness, or gender "who cares!"

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That's good too.