How can I get the effects of HRT naturally?

[aka.Jade]

Hi,

I am a 18 yr old mtf called jade. I would like to transition to mtf, but am going to transition naturally, without hrt. I would like to know how I can get the effects of hrt without hrt, such as the softer skin, etc.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Jade
X

[kanad3]

You can't.

[Mendi]

It´s impossible. I tried and tried and put god knows how much money to different lotions etc, to achieve that softer skin. When breaking up with my girlfriend whom with I was for 12 years, she screamed at me, that no lotion or cream will make me a woman.

After starting HRT and being on for a month, I kind of understood what she said, even when it was meant as an insult, she was right.

There isn´t anything in the world that will affect this body so, that it turns into more feminine version, with soft skin for example...other than HRT.

[Charlie Nicki]

Unfortunately I also don't think it's possible. And from what I've read here not even the "natural" teas or creams can do all the things that HRT can.

[Dena]

The estradiol the doctors prescribe is as close to what your body produces as you can get. Yes in the lab they start out with something that's close to Estradiol in chemical structure and then they tweak it into estradiol, but the resulting molecule is chemically identical to the estradiol that is produced by the human body. In addition it's a whole lot cheaper that the natural products that aren't chemically identical. Natural doesn't always mean better or safer. It just means it was produced in nature. Remember that hemlock is natural but you sure don't want to eat it.

[Doreen]

Hi,

I am a 18 yr old mtf called jade. I would like to transition to mtf, but am going to transition naturally, without hrt. I would like to know how I can get the effects of hrt without hrt, such as the softer skin, etc.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Jade
X

Well I managed to get estrogen & progesterone & lack of testosterone naturally.  Its called being intersexed Barring that, not sure there is another method.  That being said, never know!  It can happen to anyone.

[Devlyn]

Jade, there are estrogenic substances and anti-androgens out there that can accomplish what you're looking for. I used them to great effect, but I put a ton of homework into it, and you would need to do the same. You still need to inform your physician about using them so your health will be properly monitored.    That's what I did and I was switched from herbals to prescription HRT.

Which leads to the question "Why are you against HRT?" I'm just asking out of curiosity, I certainly respect everyone's unique approach. 

It (HRT)  has a great track record and is very safe as well. Further, it's essentially a prerequisite to anything else transition related.

Hugs, Devlyn

[Dani]

At 18 years old, you can do a lot with just hair and makeup. Also, keep your weight down, below 140 pounds if possible. keep up with the aerobic exercise, but avoid using the heavy weights. 

When you get older you will need T blockers, Estradiol and electrolysis. There is just no way around it.

[Devlyn]

Another curiosity question. Of those who said there isn't a way, did you try? I'm reading 'impossible" yet I've  done it. Impossible, meet garbage bin.

So are you saying there's no substitute because it didn't work for you, or are you just saying it?

[PurplePelican]

Another curiosity question. Of those who said there isn't a way, did you try? I'm reading 'impossible" yet I've  done it. Impossible, meet garbage bin.

So are you saying there's no substitute because it didn't work for you, or are you just saying it?

Statistically, you're an outlier. Your results do not tally with what I've read and researched on phytoestrogens.

[Devlyn]

Statistically, you're an outlier. Your results do not tally with what I've read and researched on phytoestrogens.

I don't consider myself an outlier. I used regulated herbal medications obtained from an herbologist. The homework I already mentioned pointed at a product with outstanding support from it's users and a 5,000 year medical history. Site regulations prevent me from saying much more.

Hugs, Devlyn

[Mendi]

I wouldn´t trust herbals to carry me through my whole life. Just not enough information, reliable.

But that´s my opinion 

[Doreen]

I wouldn´t trust herbals to carry me through my whole life. Just not enough information, reliable.

But that´s my opinion 

I'm a bit of a prepper (a survivalist really) so I am FULLY aware of many of the herbs that contain natural phytoestrogens & progesterones.  If I had no access to effective HRT management or couldn't afford it anymore I'd be fully prepared to utilize my own knowledge in these areas... poopoo taboo or not. 

That being said, especially to those just starting out?  Just see a doc.  You don't even need an endo, heck just a FNP can order the labs & tests even!  That's who I get all my stuff through now.  He's a bit clueless but fortunately I'm well educated.. plus can recognize labs when they're out of range too.  I am seeing a specialized reproductive endocrinologist for other concerns, but not for HRT, or even really for kidney or liver issues (more like some very unusual stuff, not gonna bore ya here).  If kidneys or liver or diabetic?  Then you might want to employ an endo.  Or .. just ... do what your doc says that's simple enough ^_^

Just my thoughts on it   There is more than one way to 'skin a cat' as the saying goes. 

[kanad3]

At 18 years old, you can do a lot with just hair and makeup. Also, keep your weight down, below 140 pounds if possible. keep up with the aerobic exercise, but avoid using the heavy weights. 

When you get older you will need T blockers, Estradiol and electrolysis. There is just no way around it.

I'd say at 18 years they are at the border or where they might or not need FFS. Might be too late. I started at 17 and still need FFS.

[Chelsea]

Another curiosity question. Of those who said there isn't a way, did you try? I'm reading 'impossible" yet I've  done it. Impossible, meet garbage bin.

I'm with you Devlyn.
They work as I took them also for a few years also. I am liking the HRT much better though.

Hugs,
    Chelsea

[aka.Jade]

Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies

I'm personally a believer in "nothing is impossible" and "there's always a way", so you never know.

Honestly, it doesn't matter whether I get the full effect, just something to make some change.

If you're wondering why Im against hrt, it's more genderfluid than fully trans, and I would like to have kids one day, iyswim. 

Thanks,
Jade,
X

[Devlyn]

Thanks for the explanation, Jade. I'm genderfluid, too. Initially I just wanted some feminization without medical attention, and the herbals certainly delivered on that.

Hugs, Devlyn

[LilDevilOfPrada]

I don't consider myself an outlier. I used regulated herbal medications obtained from an herbologist. The homework I already mentioned pointed at a product with outstanding support from it's users and a 5,000 year medical history. Site regulations prevent me from saying much more.

Hugs, Devlyn

How is taking "regulated" herbal medications not HRT? I mean can you be 100% certain these did not contain any form of substitute hormones?

None the less consider HRT I only had 1 complication and its called produced milk. I had a mishap where my doctor was experimenting with progesterone levels to increase my breast development and boom went a bit to far. That was a quick little needle into my breasts and solved after a medication change. At the very least consider a means to block your T and save yourself the development.

Also everyone saying you have time at young are in essence a tad underestimating T, Its strong and happy to develop you till your in your 30s.

[Devlyn]

How is taking "regulated" herbal medications not HRT? I mean can you be 100% certain these did not contain any form of substitute hormones?

None the less consider HRT I only had 1 complication and its called produced milk. I had a mishap where my doctor was experimenting with progesterone levels to increase my breast development and boom went a bit to far. That was a quick little needle into my breasts and solved after a medication change. At the very least consider a means to block your T and save yourself the development.

Also everyone saying you have time at young are in essence a tad underestimating T, Its strong and happy to develop you till your in your 30s.

They aren't prescription drugs, that's why it isn't HRT.   

[SarahFehrman]

I'm with you Devlyn.
They work as I took them also for a few years also. I am liking the HRT much better though.

Hugs,
    Chelsea

Wow, Chelsea - you're gorgeous!  How long were you on herbs and how long have you been on HRT, if you don't mind saying?


Hugs,
Sarah from ChiTown